Yeah, the price drop came as a surprise. In one of my free lessons in college I walked to town today and looked at the elite price.

First thought that came to my head? 'Holy fuck that just got cheap!' £229.99 ish for an Elite with controller, headset and xbox live trial + 3 selected games, which for me would be Halo 3, Mass Effect and either Lost Oddeysey or Forza Motorsport, which would be before save up for the other 2 Halo games, just so I haev the full set, and the fact that Halo 1 is the best!

Buuuuuut, I'm going to be saving up for the 360 after I get the new Warhammer 40k Starter set, Orks > Master Chief anyday!

I've decided that this gaming generation sucks balls. And yes my word is absolute and definitive.

Anyways, I'd go for the 360 by far. I can't think of any worthy PS3 exclusive, besides MGS4. I played Gears of War and it's awesome.. so  buy that.

XB360 doesn't have many true exclusives, you can get most of its lineup on the PC (It's Microsoft, so go figure.), with free multiplayer you don't have to pay monthly for. The XB360's best exclusives are all on its arcade, and Halo 3 (which will hit PC's soon enough, believe it.)

PS3 has LBP, MGS4, and the side FF13's and other stuff coming up, and none of those are bound to hit PC any time soon.

too bad all those ps3 exclusives look and play like shit.

Little Big Planet looks to be the most innovative game in the past 5 years what are you talking about

yah the future of gaming is sidescrollers.

thats like calling half-life just a first person shooter.


there's way more to LBP than side scroller. just like there's more to Half-Life that makes it an FPS that breaks the mold. LBP is pretty much breaking the mold of side scrollers/games in general. it's one of the few games that is going to change how developers think about games.

i too wish to pay 600 bucks for LBP and hideo kojimas pile of shit.

oh wait...FF13. the series that spells quality with a k.

are you kidding me.

thats like calling half-life just a first person shooter.


there's way more to LBP than side scroller. just like there's more to Half-Life that makes it an FPS that breaks the mold. LBP is pretty much breaking the mold of side scrollers/games in general. it's one of the few games that is going to change how developers think about games.

mass effect owns the fuck out of stupid sidescrollers you heard it here first.......owned...

ps innovations that stay exclusive to one console tend to stay that way. hello nintendo wii.

it's not exclusive to one console, the idea of giving the player the tools to change the game however they want in a casual convenient way, letting them direct the game's direction, is not exclusive to one console and has been a movement that has been happening in the industry for some time now. Mods, etc. This is just the first time it'll be done in an easy to understand way so that even my grandma can make something.

if lbp does well it's going to signal other developers to follow.

Motion sensoring in the Wii is an entirely different thing because it's not an innovation to begin with. Motion sensoring has existed for some time before the Wii, the Wii was just the first time to use it as the focus for most of the games in a major way instead of being a side peripheral for a small list of games. ie: just a gimmick to base the console around.

this is an entire change in development thought.

^^^OKAY CALL ME IN TWO YEARS WHEN ALL THESE INNOVATIONS HAVE PAID OFF AND GAME DESIGNERS AREN'T LAZY SHITHEADS AND GAMERS STOP BUYING SHITTY REMAKES OF CHRONO TRIGGER AND THE PS3 HAS ROCKED THE WORLD FOREVER KILLZONE SUPREMACY.

i kind of hate these threads btw because the jackyl, its all pretty much up to your individual circumstance. do you really really care about online shit? the ps3 has free online stuff. can you actually afford to blow 500+ dollars in one go? if not, get a 360. the ps3 has a hell of a lot less going for it as far as games go, if for no other reason than that it's younger than the 360, but if you are all about FINAL FANTASY and MGS or whatever, don't let that stop you. I think both series have had the most disappointing releases ever as of late, but different strokes.

I just personally think the whole ITS ON PC TOO argument is pretty tired at this point because if thejackyl doesn't know that already telling him probably won't help since he clearly aint keeping up to date with PC games! w/e ps3 blows because it's way too much goddam money imho but nothing any of us say will matter or influence you because lord knows what REALLY will push you over the edge. SOULJA BOY REVIEWED BRAID AND SAID IT WAS BAD GET A PS3.

hahahaha that's true.

also you're always going to have bad stuff man, you know that, you should, there is still TERRIBLE stuff in the movie industry, but that doesn't mean it hasn't made any strides what-so-ever in the past 10+ years. You're still going to have lazy shit head game designers and gamers are still going to buy remakes of Chrono Trigger, bitch about Mother 3, and buy Mortal Kombat games, but it doesn't automagically make the innovations mean nothing.

My wife bought a PS3 because she likes spending her money on frivolous shit and it seems alright, it's also a decent blu-ray player and the movie rental selection on the playstation store is pretty good. Some of the downloadable games on the store are really fun too, getting high and drinking while playing Echochrome is a favorite after-work activity among me my buddies right now. I personally like the types of games exclusive to the PS3 like MGS4 and LittleBigPlanet. Xbox didn't really have anything on it that appealed to me, I can pirate all the neat games like Bioshock and MassEffect on the PC and I don't care about Halo.

I think that the PS3 is a more interesting piece of hardware and feels a little more like a multimedia center than just a game console. It's also a lot easier and cheaper to upgrade/swap harddrives, you can get a 320GB drive in there for less than you'd pay for a 120GB Xbox drive.

I think the important thing about your story, however, is that you didn't have to pay it.  Would it have been worth it if you had been the one paying the money for it?

the jackyl I am going to say this, I think when choosing consoles it's entirely up to you and what games you like, so if you like the PS3 games then buy the PS3 if you like the Xbox 360 games then buy the xbox 360. It's really up to the type of games you like to play.

PS3 has/will have some neat games for it, but you can't go wrong with the 360. It's got a huge library already and some great Live Arcade games too. But either way, you'll have good stuff to play since a ton of games this generation are multiplatform between the 360 and PS3 (you're only SOL if you get a Wii because many of the big ticket titles are watered down/not released on the Wii.)

oh yeah if you really are someone who has to keep up to date with shit, the ps3 plays dvds and blurays which is somewhat useful considering bluray is....the future.

...you're only SOL if you get a Wii because many of the big ticket titles are watered down/not released on the Wii...

Alright, So I have a Wii

Didn't read it did you?  Oh well, I'm gonna get an XBOX 360, probably with my next paycheck.

I think the important thing about your story, however, is that you didn't have to pay it.  Would it have been worth it if you had been the one paying the money for it?

I don't think any videogame system other than the Super Nintendo is worth what they charge for them

I recently spent 500$ building a computer that can run shit like Crysis at very high settings with 1280x1024 resolution (my monitors max) and i have no idea why i ever bought any console from this generation.  aside from the wii (which isn't worth owning unless you hate video games or you're 80 years old) there's like 3 exclusive games on each system.

crysis is nearly a year old now tho is that still a good benchmark? I don't know only one type of game (FPS) comes out on PC so I just stick to a laptop.