So, they spent a whole season bringing back Arthur just so they could kill him? Give me a break. Death is meaningless on this bullshit show anyway.

And, the fucking formula? Now everyone can be a "hero." Cheapens the whole thing.

No, what the show once had was a sense of wonder and mystery. Like something really amazing is happening, and something really important is about to happen. The best moments of the show were when that artist drew the future, when people figured out for the first time that they could do amazing shit, and it's like a whole new world opened to them, when all you had really seen of Sylar was his victims and his silhouette. One of my favourite scenes was when, uh... 'regenerating teenage girl who can't act to save her life (or those dolphins)', is being chased by Sylar, because Sylar is still a symbol of pure evil, and you know an important character is going to die but not who or how, since they built up to that one for some episodes; that was some real adrenaline right there.

After season 1 they lost all that, and now it's just people who can shoot lightning bolts at each other playing cops and bad guys. I could forgive some of the shitty acting before because the premise and atmosphere was amazing, not so much now that the show has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

Pretty much exactly this.

dragonx are you serious

do you really have that low an opinion of me panda to ask that!!!

Ok, time travel episodes suck since they generate plot holes.

- Claire still has the catalyst in her. Her and Hiro both did, so why didn't Arthur Petrelli take the catalyst from her and take her power as well? There's no reason why he didn't take her healing except bad writing. She doesn't need healing to deliver a message to Angela.
- Aren't there two Arthur Petrellis now? The one from the past teleported to the present holding the catalyst within himself. He was killed. There's still the original present day Arthur Petrelli, isn't there? Unless the Arthur who showed up to see Claire and Hiro is the present day Arthur teleporting back to the past, in which case the writers are even more stupid. He just magically happened to know where to show up.

Noo hiro is trapped in the past forever

So the Mr.P that took the catalyst was the past Mr.P? I thought the

christ, I don't even know, these timelines are fucking me up. Who took the catalyst from Hiro? Mr.P When he was alive back then, or Mr.P from the current timeline who just randomly decided he can teleport back through time?

Also, since Mr.P can heal himself like Claire, wouldn't he return back to life after the Haitian left just like how Claire and Sylar came back to life after the eclipse?

He didn't randomly decide he could go to the past, if that was present day Mr . Petrelli then he could because Peter Petrelli could do it too

ughhh guys im pretty sure it was explained in season 1 that if a healer sustains a brain injury and the cause of the injury is NOT REMOVED then the person cannot heal himself

and im pretty sure shrapnel(assuming of course they were smart and used Hollow Tip Bullets) counts as SUSTAINED BRAIN INJURY therefore ending said healer's life indefinitly

and im pretty sure shrapnel(assuming of course they were smart and used Hollow Tip Bullets) counts as SUSTAINED BRAIN INJURY therefore ending said healer's life indefinitly

Unless someone decides to inject Claire's blood into his body.. it worked when Noah took a bullet through the head.

He didn't randomly decide he could go to the past, if that was present day Mr . Petrelli then he could because Peter Petrelli could do it too

My problem is not with the fact that he can time travel, it's that he knew the EXACT time and EXACT place to jump to. If you're going to use the logic that he's able to do that since he's now got Peter's powers, and Peter did absorb Molly's power, THEN why didn't he use Molly's power whenever he was looking for other Heroes in the past? It doesn't make sense. The writers overpower certain characters, but then have to dumb then down intellectually to explain their actions. If you have so much power, then you're going to use it all the time to your advantage. Why hasn't he used Hiro's power to freeze time and then kill everyone who stands in his way? Oh, because this interferes with the writing of the show. Nothing makes sense.

And Hiro freezing time wouldn't even have done anything, since Arthur's got that power too. Remember, Hiro vs. Peter, time stopping didn't do anything.

Hmm, Sylar has the urge to get new powers, yet he didn't look at Mr.P's brain to get his shit ton of powers.

Yeah, if you have something lodged in your brain and you're a healer then you're "temporarily dead". The bullet could be removed, like they did with Noah and I think Sylar, or like in Season 1 when Claire had that stick jammed in her brain. But Sylar said that "Claire was special" and he couldn't kill her if he wanted to, I'm thinking that the reason she was special and couldn't be permanently killed was because she had the catalyst inside her. Now that Mr.P has the catalyst, he could be the same way you know.


panda: Yeah, there was a scene like what dragonx said, the elevator one was really out of character for him though. Killed 4 people (three of which didn't have powers) in a office, then rides on an elevator with hands covered in blood next to a scared Asian guy, and doesn't kill him. just can't kill the asians.

Yeah why the hell didn't he take Arthur's power?
Maybe because the Haitian?

Haitian was pretty drained, and Sylar was able to use his powers to momentarily stop the bullet from hitting him. Guess the writers didn't want anyone even more powerful than Mr.P.


edit: Hell, Sylar could've gotten the Haitians power too.

My problem is not with the fact that he can time travel, it's that he knew the EXACT time and EXACT place to jump to. If you're going to use the logic that he's able to do that since he's now got Peter's powers, and Peter did absorb Molly's power, THEN why didn't he use Molly's power whenever he was looking for other Heroes in the past? It doesn't make sense. The writers overpower certain characters, but then have to dumb then down intellectually to explain their actions. If you have so much power, then you're going to use it all the time to your advantage. Why hasn't he used Hiro's power to freeze time and then kill everyone who stands in his way? Oh, because this interferes with the writing of the show. Nothing makes sense.

he can draw the future so mebbe he drew the same thing wot was in the comic