Attention The laughs are over: Jack Thompson has been disbarred, forever. (Read 2726 times)

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I dunno in either case I think it's pretty disturbing that my primary form of entertainment as a kid now includes stuff like Manhunt

I'm surprised people our age aren't like weird fundamentalist video game people who want to go back to the good old days when games were all clean and nice - even the SNES Final Fantasy people don't really seem to give a shit

Because videogames back then weren't all clean or nice.

Custer's Revenge anyone?

I mean, in that game you literally rape a native American woman.
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You don't rape her.





That requires getting past the arrows which is hard as fuck I've tried :(

(no but really that game is creepy since yeah you're just RAPING HER YOU WIN)
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Leisure Suit Larry anyone? Plus the bad ending for the first one which was him commiting suicide. Oh yeah that stuff is pretty clean, eh?
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Well I was going to mention those but I figured you guys wouldn't be huge faggots about it and realize I meant games we actually would have played like Super Mario Bros./Duck Hunt Legend of Zeldas etc. etc.
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Please define that "gamer culture" you all seems to hate cause I'd like to know where you draw the line between, you know, a guy that plays games and the embarrasing side of that culture.
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Well I was going to mention those but I figured you guys wouldn't be huge faggots about it and realize I meant games we actually would have played like Super Mario Bros./Duck Hunt Legend of Zeldas etc. etc.

I've played it & a ton of ATARI 2600 games. :(

The reason there wasn't many bad games post Videogame crash is because Nintendo and friends were rebuilding the industry from its dead remains. you don't rebuild something by instantly doing something very risky like NAKED WOMAN RAPE HER or something. This is why the ESRB wasn't needed until the industry was far enough along that stuff like Mortal Kombat came out. Then after that that's why you don't have dirty games anymore because games like Custer's Revenge would get an AO and be prevented from selling all over the nation because controlling ideas is fun. Though I hope no one cares because Custer's Revenge is the worst game ever. You literally just press right while avoiding arrows aiming for your naked body to rape a chick like totally. i mean not even manhunt is that bad lol

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Please define that "gamer culture" you all seems to hate cause I'd like to know where you draw the line between, you know, a guy that plays games and the embarrasing side of that culture.

We need a word for video game fanatics.  We have otaku and japfag for the extreme anime fans and cinemaphile for the people who dedicated their lives to the study of crusty old films but GAMER is an all encompassing word that carries both neutral and negative weight to it. 

Come on guys, think of something.  Change the future of pop culture, okay?
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I have the perfect word: Gamopheliac

Seriously, though, I'm not surprised and I laugh at Jack! But then again, it's never great to laugh at anothers misfortune. I was expecting this. It's a conspiracy.
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I have the perfect word: Gamopheliac

Seriously, though, I'm not surprised and I laugh at Jack! But then again, it's never great to laugh at anothers misfortune. I was expecting this. It's a conspiracy.


look at your own sig dude you don't feel bad about this at all, don't bother with this "don't laugh at others misfortune" crap
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I'm interested in hearing how Konix defines "gamer culture", too.  As far as I'm aware, gamer culture is largely similar in self-consciousness to, say, metal culture.  I wouldn't even compare it to anime culture (in the U.S. and Europe).  I no longer really consider myself to be part of whatever gamer culture is, but I used to be (mostly from the early Quake days up until around 2000), and I never believed that it took itself too seriously by any substantial degree.  The attitude is, and has always been (and more so the past two decades, during which gaming became mainstream) that it's an interesting part of one's identity to assume but that it's not something that anyone should be making too big a deal out of.

When people criticize that, it's not only is it denigrating to what gamers consider to be fun (remember when you were 6 and the paranoid kid kept telling you to stop playing with a lighter because "it's dangerous"?), it's also direct criticism towards their identity and being as a whole.

Anyway, I don't need to explain in detail why stupid games like Manhunt should be tolerated unquestioningly (more or less).  I think you and I probably agree that while it's garbage, it doesn't actually have a big influence over very many people, yet any resistance will result in the contrary of what you want to achieve, and it's bound to pass as nothing more than a curiosity for a select audience anyway.
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Anyway, I don't need to explain in detail why stupid games like Manhunt should be tolerated unquestioningly (more or less).  I think you and I probably agree that while it's garbage, it doesn't actually have a big influence over very many people, yet any resistance will result in the contrary of what you want to achieve, and it's bound to pass as nothing more than a curiosity for a select audience anyway.

I read a quote somewhere that was like "If you don't understand it, it's probably art" or something to that effect.

As far as I'm concerned, forms of expression (specifically literature, art, and entertainment) should be protected.  There's tons and tons of books that I don't approve of but I would object immediately if you tried to censor them.  It's a humans basic right to express themselves just like it's a human's basic right to ignore it.  Trash like Manhunt shouldn't be readily available to 10 year old kids but I'd be up in arms with everyone else if some blowhard came along and is like "yeah we have to take this off the shelves but you can still buy porn at the suncoast across the street!"
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what the fuck. I dont have SEETHING CONTEMPT for and have not been emotionally traumatized by gamers. I just think gamer culture is embarrassing and terrible and I like trolling.
its ok.... let it out.  maybe your stepdad just sits around the house all day playing games instead of getting a job??
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We need a word for video game fanatics.  We have otaku and japfag for the extreme anime fans and cinemaphile for the people who dedicated their lives to the study of crusty old films but GAMER is an all encompassing word that carries both neutral and negative weight to it. 

Come on guys, think of something.  Change the future of pop culture, okay?

Come on guys, we need to take this seriously. Or do I need to bring up what happened to Comic Books as a popular art form (I still say it was hardcore comic book nerds that killed it. The same reason that "Dungeons and Dragons" has yet to become a mainstream sporting event).
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Or watch G4 (new techtv). They have horrible "gamer" commercials that make me wish I had never touched a video game.
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I don't know if I could write a definition for it if I tried. If you really want to get an idea of what I'm referring to then just watch a bunch of those youtubes of people that responded to gamesmasterjasper's semper games videos. That's what I think of when I think of gamers and gamer culture and those people have forever ruined video games for me.
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I believe the people that Konix identifies as being part of the gamer culture aren't just people that like video games. He's probably referring to people that live around gaming as opposed to just playing them occasionally. That probably isn't a very fair definition of the gaming culture as a whole, because those people are probably just a minority. You honestly have different degrees of gaming infatuation, I like video games but they do not take precedence over higher priorities(a lot of things now that i'm in college.) I don't associate with the hardcore definition, but I do consider myself a gamer. Of course, there are a lot of people that mingle with video games a lot, but they take other things into consideration(social life, hygene, education, etc.) I think that is OK, because you realize that other things exist.

EDIT: I'll give an example of someone that would be a detriment to the gaming culture, and takes it too seriously.

This isn't anyone real, and i'm entirely making this up.

Hi, i'm Aaron and video games are an obsession of mine. *Slips on nintendo jacket* *Messages guy on MSN* "Heeey dude, have you heard of the new Persona game coming out?" *Chats for a while* Mom: "Aaron, son, are you going to the park with your family?" Aaron: "No not now, mom." *Continues to play "Insert random game here"*. I just got my paycheck today. *Only has 3 shirts and 4 pairs of pants* "I think I'll buy the new Final Fantasy and a DS, and maybe that rare SNES game if I have enough left over." Girlfriend: "Aaron, are you ready to go to the movies?" Aaron: "I have to do this raid that I promised I would do with my WoW guild!" Girlfriend: "Buuut, we had this plan for weeks...." Aaron: "Sorry, but this is important!" *CLICK*

Unfortunetly, Aaron doesn't do much besides play video games. He takes gaming culture too seriously and is the epitome of the utmost embarassment associated with the culture. No wonder some people don't claim to be a part of it! What Aaron does not realize is that he is missing out on too much, he is a troubled young man who would rather find rare WoW loot than engage in an active social life.

Now, here is someone that is considered a gamer, but doesn't take it too seriously. He loves doing many things, gaming is one of them.

Hi, my name is Eric. I enjoy hiking, spending time with friends, playing video games, and playing sports. Mom: "Son, do you want to go to the park with your family?" Eric: "Sure" *gets to a save point and quits the game for now* I used to play WoW, but now that college is here I don't have the time, so I quit it. I consider myself a gamer, but it doesn't define who I am exclusively.

It isn't really fair to chastise games for the behavior of one person. It is their mind-set that leads to them to do what they do. Though, like a lot of people were saying, some consider people like Aaron as what defines gaming culture. As I said, it does depend on how you define it, but it IS laughable(and sad, embarassing, pathetic) that some people go THIS FAR when it comes to gaming and people don't want to associate with THAT at all.
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i think you could probably figure out some kind of exponential curve based on cash spent on videogames.

less than 50 bucks you aren't even on the scale, approaching 400 puts you in gamesmaster territory.
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i think you could probably figure out some kind of exponential curve based on cash spent on videogames.

less than 50 bucks you aren't even on the scale, approaching 400 puts you in gamesmaster territory.

What about pirating games?

Either way, citing G4 is probably the easiest way to describe "Gamer Culture" and watching 5 minutes of it; you will understand why some despise it.

It's the kind of morons who sit outside for four weeks waiting for the release of Halo 3.
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real gamers would be like IVE GOTTA SUPPORT THE INDUSTRY BY BUYING THIS GAME THAT WILL SELL TWO MILLION COPIES.
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i think you could probably figure out some kind of exponential curve based on cash spent on videogames.

less than 50 bucks you aren't even on the scale, approaching 400 puts you in gamesmaster territory.

ih ope this isn't including consoles cause heh, buying a ps3 would put you in gamemaster territory

because it's so expensive


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