Topic: Fallout 3 (Read 21429 times)

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You take the long walk to find a location (often given to you in the form of a map marker!) and once you get there you have the ability to fast travel by chosing icons on the map!
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Basically it's like Oblivion BUT rather than automatically knowing where places are as soon as you leave the vault (Like Oblivion as soon as you leave the sewers) in Fallout 3 you have to find the locations first. I'm not worried cause I never fast travelled in Oblivion, cause I prefer to explore.
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if you don't like fast travel then don't use it.  it's an option for an reason.  complaining about something optional... c'mon

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Last Edit: October 29, 2008, 02:03:03 pm by Marcus
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i'm going to leave this blunt there.  it'll get you super high but it's laced with cyanide.  if anyone wants to smoke it, that's cool, just don't blame me if it ruins your buzz
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i don't get why people say oblivion with guns. it is inevitable that it would seem this way when both games were already close in their design (skills, stats, multiple choices that make you good or bad, typical PnP style mechanics). If you took Fallout 1, and made it first person with good graphics, it would be pretty much exactly like this game. I don't get why people say this basically. It sounds like a bad thing when people say it though, especially the big Fallout fans. The only thing that isn't really Fallouty at all is the first person/over the shoulder camera view which was chosen because it's more personal to the player and the quick travel which is just to save time for the player and I'd guess that you're never forced to use it so I bet some people won't use it anyways.

But otherwise, Fallout has always been about the world, it's lore, and the story and this game obviously keeps to that, so I'm sure it's a damn good game just for that! I wish more people would expand on this type of stuff, because the Fallout games are less so about their (not-so-good) gameplay and more about the world/lore/story that is pretty good (you just don't have many post apocalyptic games). Is there still a lot of dark humor around (I heard it's there just not very often), is the story arcs in the quests good (or just bland/basic), etc, this type of stuff is stuff I'm interested in and if you guys who have it could expand that'd be gr9.
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I can't wait to get this game... but the Wal-Mart I work at doesn't get the new games out on the shelves until about a week later, unless its a BIG release (Halo 3 and MGS4 had midnight releases...)  and since I'm a cheap bastard, I'm going to have to wait until next week probably to get it </whine>

Anyways, for whoever asked about the Death Claws, they are these lizard creatures that can RAPE you(r health).  In Fallout 1, I was hit for over 100 damage in a single hit, and I was wearing combat armor (the one right before the power armor)  Hint:  Aim for the legs to cripple them, then the eyes for damage...  than again that holds true for all melee enemies.
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the more i learn about this the less i'm excited about it. i mean, take oblivion. the idea of it, of an expansive fantasy world full of that wanderlust adventure excitement gets me all riled up all right. takes my mind to nice places. but playing it is a pretty boring and sterile experience - and even the gamespot review used that word to describe fallout 3. and those guys are fucking stupid. i mean i wanted this to be smart, maybe funny, but to really have some story to tell and all i've been reading tells me it's not going to be much more interesting than oblivion in that respect which bores the hell out of me. i'm not totally passing judgement on it, i mean i'm still going to appreciate other aspects of the game but i'm not in any hurry to play it.
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I played several hours yesterday so . . .

the Fallout games are less so about their (not-so-good) gameplay and more about the world/lore/story that is pretty good (you just don't have many post apocalyptic games). Is there still a lot of dark humor around (I heard it's there just not very often), is the story arcs in the quests good (or just bland/basic), etc, this type of stuff is stuff I'm interested in and if you guys who have it could expand that'd be gr9.

Note that I like Oblivion a lot and Fallout 2 is my favorite PC game.  This is relevant!

The writing is surprisingly good!  The NPCs in the world are pretty interesting to talk to.  Talking to NPCs is pretty fun, actually.  It is set up like Fallout and not Oblivion in that you can't talk to everyone - you can only talk to people who are productive to talk to (Quests etc).  The dialogue trees are written reasonably well, and even though the choices are as obvious as ever (you always respond with good, evil, neutral, and selfish etc), I'll sometimes get a bit of a chuckle reading through my options.  You will definitely spend a lot of time talking to people and as long as you turn subtitles on you can read through quickly and it's more or less just like old-school Fallout.  There are always like 5-8 choices to scroll through, which isn't obvious in screenshots.  I was worried I would only ever have like three things to say and I was wrong.  The quests I have gone on always offer several different solutions, often have different benefactors (quests typically have several interested parties and you have to choose who to please.  If you are clever you can often double-deal and betray various interested parties, playing them off of each other.

The much-maligned combat is really awesome, in my opinion.  Think of it less like Oblivion, and more like Secret of Mana.  You wait for your AP to charge up (they will always be charged up at the start of battle so you have a huge advantage over the AI in combat), and you then go into an aiming system just like the old games.  You are free to use the aiming system before your AP charges up, but you will get fewer shots in.  A key factor here is that you do much more damage if you use the targeting system versus shooting a target in real-time, even if you hit the enemy in the same place, so not using the targeting system is a waste of ammo.  Unless, of course, the enemy is super weak and you can kill it in one shot.  The rhythm of the combat ends up feeling like an ATB system from a Final Fantasy game, or the delayed charged attacks system used in Secret of Mana.  It really doesn't play like combat in Oblivion because of both this and the absence of magic.  Melee combat is a lot like Oblivion, but you can still use the aiming system to ensure critical hits.  Melee combat is kind of boring and limited actually!

An interesting minor detail is that Karma is separate from reputation.  You can gain a reputation for your actions through whatever things you do that people see, good or evil.  Karma is a personal thing, though, and is related to personal guilt.  If you break into someone's home or steal, you will lose karma, but if nobody sees you, your reputation will stay the same.  There is an intangible quality that makes a game more engaging when you are notified your karma has been affected negatively whenever you do something that nobody has seen you do but would make your character feel guilty.

My major hangup with the game is that the environments look great, but the animations are still silly as hell.  You can not play in third-person because the camera is stiff and your character's animation is horrible and ridiculous-looking.  So far though it is definitely the best game I have played for a long time!

Hint: Aim for the legs to cripple them, then the eyes for damage... than again that holds true for all melee enemies.

Sadly you can not aim for the eyes or groin in this game - just the head.  Big bummer.  I hope there is a perk later that gives me this ability because shooting people in the genitals is way too awesome.
Last Edit: October 29, 2008, 03:27:07 pm by maladroithim
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Well, this game seems to be garnering mixed feelings as I knew it would. I'm still highly anticipating it (doesn't come out till tomorrow here, gah!) and I reckon I'll play it for a while. I'm hoping Bethesda will released a construction set or something in a few months time, because as always having mod support will extend the games lifespan for years to come (or until Fallout 4 gets released, as it undoubtedly will).
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also

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=oblivion+with+guns&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq= 1,750,000 results for Oblivion with Guns

god I hate the internet (unless it was the name of a movie too or something that would account for all that)

oh wait if you quote it it's just 22,000 results - was thinking I had to search without quotes because lots of people wouldn't do the quotes
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Man Fallout fans are really creepy sometimes :(

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The guy who wrote that is probably the kind of sweaty neckbeard that makes me feel uncomfortable whenever I go into video game stores.  Seriously I prefer to buy video games at Target if I can or something because the Gamestop crowd is so creepy.
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Man Fallout fans are really creepy sometimes :(

you mean fans of *insert every possible game/movie ever here*




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you mean fans of *insert every possible game/movie ever here*

No man Fallout fans are special.  They are extra creepy.
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hahaha I didn't know about that nifty targeting system until like 5 hours of playing it and I was wondering what the ap was for and why I kept dying so much.
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I'm really liking the game so far. I hate Fallout fans who hate the game simply for being different (without playing it too) but I thought it looked pretty boring based on many of the recent videos I had seen. Then I saw Gametrailers' review and it instantly seemed much better and so I installed it and I have been playing it for maybe 3 hours so far. The battle system is definitely way better than I expected and I love the atmosphere, and it's one thing I really appreciate. I think the dialogue is pretty good although some of the choices are pretty stupid and dry. But even so, I'm pleasantly surprised so far.
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Bought this sucker for PS3 after work (I wanted Little Big Planet, but EBGames ran out). I'll probably give this baby a whirl in 20 or 30 minutes.