Bought this sucker for PS3 after work (I wanted Little Big Planet, but EBGames ran out). I'll probably give this baby a whirl in 20 or 30 minutes.

The PS3 is reportedly very buggy and the worst, so

Hopefully it won't be too bad for you.

This game is fine; yeah, it is pretty much Oblivion with guns but uh it's a GOOD thing.  They fixed all the problems that were wrong with Oblivion, and wrote an interesting setting.  Also I don't really get the complaint about fast travel; fast travel was in the other two.

PS:  NMA is probably the most batshit crazy corner of the internet ever

The PS3 is reportedly very buggy and the worst, so

Hopefully it won't be too bad for you.

I was reading that it's not too buggy, so we'll see. The PS3 version still received decent scores too, so it shouldn't be game breaking.

This game is fine; yeah, it is pretty much Oblivion with guns but uh it's a GOOD thing.  They fixed all the problems that were wrong with Oblivion, and wrote an interesting setting.  Also I don't really get the complaint about fast travel; fast travel was in the other two.

PS:  NMA is probably the most batshit crazy corner of the internet ever

a lot of people didn't like oblivion, including me(and i was fucking hype for it before i played it) and i don't see how adding guns makes it better, hopefully your right about them fixing the problems, but i have i feeling my problems with oblivion aren't the same as yours.

also fallout 1/2/tactics didn't have fast travel, it took you days to travel between towns and you had to deal with random encounters, fast travel is instant with no random incounters and apparently it only takes like 5 minutes if you actually do decide to just walk between towns.

there are some retarded people on gwNMA but one post doesn't represent the entire community(which isn't nearly as bad as most people seem to think it is)

a lot of people didn't like oblivion, including me(and i was fucking hype for it before i played it) and i don't see how adding guns makes it better, hopefully your right about them fixing the problems, but i have i feeling my problems with oblivion aren't the same as yours.

@^!%@!^#@!@(&% Have you read any of the reviews or posts about this game?  It does not have fighting that is like the fighting in Oblivion.  Playing the game without the turn-based aiming, which is just like classic Fallout, is like . . . I don't know playing a fighting game without using any special moves.  It is closer to turn-based Fallout than Oblivion in my opinion.  If I were to describe the combat system to someone else I would compare it to Secret of Mana or Vagrant Story or something before I would compare it to Oblivion.  Also character building is 100% Fallout and 0% Oblivion (IE no repetitive tasks to increase your aptitudes).  It's pretty much completely different unless the perspective is really that important to you?  Because other than the fact that it is in first-person and some other minor things (the presentation of conversations, and more specifically, the game compass which is completely identical to Oblivion's but it just a different color), it shares very little with Oblivion outside of what it shares with any other RPG.

also fallout 1/2/tactics didn't have fast travel, it took you days to travel between towns and you had to deal with random encounters, fast travel is instant with no random incounters and apparently it only takes like 5 minutes if you actually do decide to just walk between towns.

Give me a break it is basically the same thing.  Also it takes days to travel between towns in Fallout 3 too and anyway that is a pretty petty problem?  Aside from that, Random encounters are relatively rare in the original Fallout games and also pretty stupid.  Fallout 2 is my favorite classic PC game, but the things I remember loving about the game are completely unrelated to the random encounters on the world map! 

Wandering around the barren wasteland conveys soooooo much more the original concept of a burned-out wasteland than Fallout 1 or 2 ever did.  In Fallout 1 and 2, you find places in the wasteland by moving your circle icon around a zoomed-out map.  In Fallout 3, you find places in the wasteland by . . . finding places in the wasteland.  It is fucking awesome.

I don't understand are some people so unhappy with the world that they are afraid to like Fallout 3 even though they love Fallout 1 and 2

The PS3 is reportedly very buggy and the worst, so

Hopefully it won't be too bad for you.

I played for a solid 6 hours last night and nothing was wrong with it. A few of my friends mentioned that their PS3 locked up a few times, but this can happen with any game. The only real problem I've head other people running into is literally getting stuck (falling INSIDE models and shit) and having to reload.

Ugh, I wanted to totally NOT fast travel when I played; it was a goal I could never pull off in Oblivion. But I was ridiculously low on ammo and supplies so I fast traveled from Minefield back to Megaton to rest up.

PS:  NMA is probably the most batshit crazy corner of the internet ever

Which is a shame because it's probably one of the best fan run gamer sites on the net in terms of delivering news and exclusive stuff but GOD DAMMIT 90% of the people who post there permanently wear shit stained nostalgia goggles.

News flash, Falloutfags hate FALLOUT.  If you bring up any flaw from any previous Fallout game (specifically the Temple in Fallout 2, the shitty direction Van Buren was taking, or the abundance of useless skills and perks) they'll retaliate with THAT IS ALL IRRELEVANT FALLOUT IS KING IT IS A PNP RPG ITS LIKE PLAYING ON PAPER  BUT IN VIDEO GAME.

I use to troll there and make fun of people who nitpicked the stupidest shit like how one guy was super pissed off because he thought the rail driver was a steampunk weapon and I kindly reminded him that it was a fucking boiler attached to a steam whistle and as a hand invented weapon it was no more steampunk than robots with laser guns.  One hissy fit later I started making fun of a guy who thought having an intro tutorial was THE WORST THING EVER even though Bethesda kindly allows you change all of your stats before leaving allowing you to save the game beforehand.

The difference between the Fallout Super Fags and every other fanboy is that they gather en masse and they are more aggressive than wolverines.  Make fun of Mario in a Mario board and they'll call you a troll and ignore you.  Make fun of Fallout and you'll lose an arm, an eye, and a leg followed by death threats to your pm box and email.

Yes.  I received email threats from posting on NMA.

Even when I was trolling the MGS4 board on Game Trailers I didn't receive anything more than "STFU MGS4 IS THE BEST IGNORE THIS DUDE" but so far Fallout Fanboys are the only guys in the world who have EMAILED ME THREATS.

NMA is a lot like truckpump except instead of anime it's fallout, but they also are really angry about their animes too.

@^!%@!^#@!@(&% Have you read any of the reviews or posts about this game?  It does not have fighting that is like the fighting in Oblivion.  Playing the game without the turn-based aiming, which is just like classic Fallout, is like . . . I don't know playing a fighting game without using any special moves.  It is closer to turn-based Fallout than Oblivion in my opinion.  If I were to describe the combat system to someone else I would compare it to Secret of Mana or Vagrant Story or something before I would compare it to Oblivion.  Also character building is 100% Fallout and 0% Oblivion (IE no repetitive tasks to increase your aptitudes).  It's pretty much completely different unless the perspective is really that important to you?  Because other than the fact that it is in first-person and some other minor things (the presentation of conversations, and more specifically, the game compass which is completely identical to Oblivion's but it just a different color), it shares very little with Oblivion outside of what it shares with any other RPG.

i wasn't really thinking about combat when i said that, but whatever. from what i've seen and heard i don't believe your claim that it plays out just like fallout, but i can't be sure till i play it myself(torrent should be done sometime today i hope!) and fyi you can play fighting games just fine without special moves(some of them anyways). and from the way people describe vats it sound like the real-time fighting is worthless, why have it in at all(real-time or turned-based? pick a side beth, we're at war!). i also was not talking about character building, which i'm well aware is 0% oblivion, though i think it could be argued that it is 100% fallout, sure xp is probably gained the same way(doing quests and killing people), but i think the removal of traits and the changes to perks were a bad move. i'm not a fan of first-person view but that isn't that big of a problem, though i think the game could do without the compass(is there an option to turn it off?). as for what else it does share with oblivion that i don't like... i don't know yet quite honestly, and i think i'll actually take the advice and wait till i've played it to comment on that.

Give me a break it is basically the same thing.  Also it takes days to travel between towns in Fallout 3 too and anyway that is a pretty petty problem?  Aside from that, Random encounters are relatively rare in the original Fallout games and also pretty stupid.  Fallout 2 is my favorite classic PC game, but the things I remember loving about the game are completely unrelated to the random encounters on the world map! 

they are not the same thing and what makes them different should be pretty obvious.  i'll admit they are fairly rare(which is probably a good thing, remove them completely, not so much imo, though i hear fo3 has some when you actually decide to walk from place to place), but i disagree with them being stupid. of course they aren't the greatest part of the game, but there are some good ones, including ones that were part of the main story, which is one thing they can't do with instant travel making you skip all possible encounters.

I don't understand are some people so unhappy with the world that they are afraid to like Fallout 3 even though they love Fallout 1 and 2

i don't understand why liking fallout 1/2 means we have to like fallout 3

Haha, man.. I encountered a glitch at the BIRTHDAY PARTY.

When your dad goes to the intercom and Jonas says something like, "We're ready down here, doc" or whatever, it just kept repeating that over and over and over again, and I could not talk or interact with anyone, so I had to reload my saved game.

My buddy was just telling me that he had found an old lady in a shack, he sat there and ate food, chatting the day away with her. ...until he found her gun cabinet. It's a harsh world out there... hard to survive...
so he targetted her neck and blew her head clean off. Taking the head, he went to a lake and tossed the dismembered bit into it, went back to his new homebase, and collected the spoils.
Sounds awesome. >=)

I was wondering through ruined DC wastelands and there was a raider swimming around and talking shit to one of those supermutants and I'd just sit there with my rifle taking pot shots at both of them.

the taste of blod it....................................smels sogood

Played the game a bit and damn, you run out of ammo fast if you're not careful.

this game stinks!!!!! also how do i put my weapon down after i put it up?

for real though there are things i like and there are things that look like total compromises to me.

I hate how you can't put your gun up and there seem to be no flashlights or anything to illuminate shit at all so I can't tell where I'm going at nighttime

hold tab for the flashlight!!

hold tab for a really lame glow radius flashlight (supposedly from the pip-boy). also hold R (reload) to put your gun away.

the dialog trees are a lot better in this game and the unimportant characters cannot even be talked to in the dialog system (they will just say HELLOP). the setting and world so far is fairly well done and that is all i really expected out of this game. i haven't really played enough to say GR8 GAME but it's good so far.

oblivion with guns is fairly accurate but they did improve quite a few things in  the game so it is "oblivion with guns +" in my book.

yeah, i'm playing it on the pc. i'm kind of surprised that my computer can run it, too. it recommended the minimum settings but i'm playing it without any problems on high.