I just reread my last post and realized the very first line "I suppose the issue I have is that being a violent vengeful action hero are inherently male traits, and ones women shouldn't have in media. " I miswrote or spoke or whatever. I meant:

"I suppose the issue I have is that PEOPLE SAY THE IDEA OF being a violent vengeful action hero are inherently male traits, and ones women shouldn't have in media. " (see further clarification below)

As in, this is the very idea I am challenging. Not agreeing with. Sorry for the confusion. :P

EDIT: anyone check out the sinfest comics?

Also, I really need to see "Million Dollar Baby" Also "the long kiss goodnight".  *puts on list of movies to watch*

FURTHER CLARIFICATION:
Not just people. that was my interpretation of what Kaworu was saying. AS IN:

"I suppose the issue I have is that it seems like you are saying the idea of being a violent vengeful action hero are inherently male traits, and ones women shouldn't have in media."

Maybe I'm not understanding exactly what you guys mean when you say "<gender> Perspective". Is it as straight forward as I'm suspecting? or am I missing something?

So any deep female character that ALSO displays feminine traits while also having traits typical of a main character in whatever genre they are in is a character written properly from a female perspective. Not just character that is female with only typical genre traits.

I bring up genre traits because I realize I don't think of a lot of the traits the Uma Thurman has are just traits I think of as common in action movie main characters, rather than just male characters. Maybe I am mistaken in that line of thinking, and the male traits that are so commonly used in action movies they just sort of took over. Because its hard to imagine a main action character in the same vein as like 'die hard' having to overcome anything other than the specific 'bad guy' portrayed in the movie.

Both GI characters you've come up with I've always thought of as action-drama. Like Running Scared, Fight Club, The Departed, Drive, The Prestige. Which I'll admit... there does seem to be few main female protagonists in that way though. Like these are movies where the action are usually just segue to drama parts or devices specifically for drama.

Kill bill has been in the straight ACTION-ACTION genre. The stuff that mostly caters to just being actiony in the first place. Like my earlier example, Die hard (all of them), The Bourne series, Dirty Harry, Terminator. Know what I'm saying? Most of these have characters doing plenty of illogical things. Mainly just in the name of getting to more action. Where the drama is just segue for more action or just fluff to prop up the action. In this way, I've always felt Kill Bill is innocent and just following the tropes of its genre.

Not everyone likes this type of movie. In fact, I'll admit to getting sick of it relatively quickly, I usually can only stand to watch 1 at a time for a while. But I don't think any of these are bad films.

Also I've said 'traits' a lot. Hopefully not annoying. :/

Yeah, children of men was an excellent film. And yeah that is a pretty good example.

And AAAAAAA/Socceristhebest, The important part of my last post if you don't have time to read all of it:

Kill bill has been in the straight ACTION-ACTION genre. The stuff that mostly caters to just being actiony in the first place. Like my earlier example, Die hard (all of them), The Bourne series, Dirty Harry, Terminator. Know what I'm saying? Most of these have characters doing plenty of illogical things. Mainly just in the name of getting to more action. Where the drama is just segue for more action or just fluff to prop up the action. In this way, I've always felt Kill Bill is innocent and just following the tropes of its genre.

As in, its not attempting to be feminist or anti-feminist.

My only issue is that you say her weapon is a phallic symbol. I say that because most weapons are phallic. Rockets, Guns, Swords, etc. Or at least the practical ones are.

Anything that is a in a rod-shape or has a rod-shape integrated with it can be argued to be phallic. Its hard to imagine a yonic symbol being a practical or conventional weapon.

So, while what you are saying is technically true. I don't know what you could possibly suggest as a practical tool of violence in a yonic symbol shape or even in just a non-phallic symbol shape. So you could say 99%-100% of all action movies (whether they be action-action or action-drama) have the action heroes using a phallic symbol.

Does it matter? I never knew the guy. Or if I did, I don't remember him.

On topic:
Watched Contagion. It was OK. None of the characters got enough screen time to be fleshed out though.

Star Wars: Episode III: Revenge of the Sith

I'm getting the impression that star wars is actually a series of movies about stupid politics and communist rhetoric

Moneyball

Dunno why I was looking forward to watching this.. but I ended up finding it really borring.