Yeah I mean Fortress.

Someone explain why Kill Em All is a good album.  (it isn't!)

Fortress was pretty good. Bit shred happy but still good.

I actually thought it was one of the best albums of this year (deff in my top 10).

well in terms of breaking ground it was pretty important but isn't really good, it's a pretty mediocre album in terms of the actual songs. lars is right, their next couple of albums were much better!

I like scar symmetry, but there like Opeth's little brother.

They are not quite that close. More like a half cousin that died. Opeth is Progressive death metal where as Scar Symmetry is Melodic death.

Progressive Death Metal: Progressive death metal incorporates a variety of influences from genres such as jazz fusion, progressive rock and European classical music into general death metal aesthetics to compose music that is thought to be unexpected, difficult to play and often difficult to comprehend. Songs tend to be written without distinct choruses, with varied or layered time signatures, and sometimes dissonant guitar riffs.

Melodic Death Metal: Originally the genre combined the harmony style and groove melodies of heavy metal with the harsh thrashing sound and vocals of death metal. Later the genre evolved due to many different influences, a notable evolution in the genre being the addition of keyboards. Melodic death metal contains more melodic guitar riffs, melodic solos, and acoustic guitar work than death metal. It also contains more comprehensible lyrics with traditional death growl and screaming vocals.

On another note one of my friends that had introduced me to Scar Symmetry sent me a link to one of there youtube videos and I had watched like 10 seconds of it and I hated the death growls. I gave the video another shot and I loved the clean vocals and then soon I loved it all.

They are not quite that close. More like a half cousin that died. Opeth is Progressive death metal where as Scar Symmetry is Melodic death.

Progressive Death Metal: Progressive death metal incorporates a variety of influences from genres such as jazz fusion, progressive rock and European classical music into general death metal aesthetics to compose music that is thought to be unexpected, difficult to play and often difficult to comprehend. Songs tend to be written without distinct choruses, with varied or layered time signatures, and sometimes dissonant guitar riffs.

Melodic Death Metal: Originally the genre combined the harmony style and groove melodies of heavy metal with the harsh thrashing sound and vocals of death metal. Later the genre evolved due to many different influences, a notable evolution in the genre being the addition of keyboards. Melodic death metal contains more melodic guitar riffs, melodic solos, and acoustic guitar work than death metal. It also contains more comprehensible lyrics with traditional death growl and screaming vocals.

On another note one of my friends that had introduced me to Scar Symmetry sent me a link to one of there youtube videos and I had watched like 10 seconds of it and I hated the death growls. I gave the video another shot and I loved the clean vocals and then soon I loved it all.

I know the difference between the two; But the general feel of the tracks I have heard are pretty similar especially in "Pitch Black Progress". I was actually quite fond of the death growls but not so much of the clean vocals.

As far as melodic death metal goes though, Kalmah is definitely top notch stuff though.

I don't like Kalmah, they're not bad or anything it's just that to me they didn't have anything that makes them really stand out. To me they sounded like quite a few bands from the same corner of the world.

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I just found a very kickass "newschool" thrash band. So far everything I've heard on their page and videos on Youtube are just awesome.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=4500906

Their singer totally sucks but their music is fairly thrashin.

I think he's pretty good, with a feel of old school.

Yeah its not his voice really, although he does sound a bit teenage, but he just does some lame rhythmic stuff and isn't very cool.

Lordi are about to kick off a new US tour which is pretty awesome. I know some of you probably like them. Here's the tour dates if you didn't know them:
11/12/08 Wed @ House of Blues - Las Vegas, NV
11/13/08 Thu @ House of Blues - San Diego, CA
11/16/08 Sun @ Glasshouse Music Hall - Pomona, CA
11/17/08 Mon @ House of Blues - LA, West Hollywood, CA
11/20/08 Thu @ Gothic Theatre - Eaglewood, CO
11/22/08 Sat @ House of Blues - Chicago, IL
11/23/08 Sun @ House of Blues - Cleveland, OH
11/24/08 Mon @ The Fillmore NY @ Irving - NYC, NY

For those of you that don't know... Lordi won the Eurovision contest a few years ago representing Finland. They're pretty big everywhere in the world. They aren't extremely heavy or anything, it's very rocky to be honest. Quite a few people find them amusing.

you mean it started a week ago? haha

but man they are in cleveland on sunday if what you've got is right that would be something to behold haha

wow, I didn't realize it was already started hahahaha. I'm surprised their tour is so small, I mean it's not like they're a small band or something.