You could always install 32 bit xp/vista on another drive or partition, for cases like this. That way you can just switch to it with a reboot.

I'm sorry to say, 64 bit is still so infantile, some programs just won't work well on it, or won't work at all.

jesus christ goat. i'm sorry, i don't know why i was so horrible that round.

an hour later i played with some guys on blood harvest and got all the way to the third level in like an hour and played much better, so i don't know what went wrong there

You were fine, your friend testicle_jones was another story.

that, i was going to pretend that was my friend but no that was me.

that was the single worst round i have ever played. i don't know why i was so bad that entire round. i've beaten campaigns on expert before with not too much trouble, i felt really embarrassed the entire time we were playing.

please believe me when i say i am much better than that normally!!

I made a post on the L4D forums. Tell me what you think:

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8569003#post8569003

how....how can we ever forgive you...??

i was really bad

That is a good post Farmrush, I would actually prefer it if they did the 0.5 increase for players.
It's kind of weird how the only real thing that changes scoring is how many players make it to the safe room. If you notice, even if one person makes it there, the scoring is almost no different than if everyone just dies. Health has no big bonus, and the map difficulty is essentially the same for each team. However they do make a bigger impact depending on how high the score is. The Tank idea could work, but I'm not too sure. The real issue is that the whole fifth level feels so different when doing versus. It's like a different type of scoring needs to be applied there, but I know that wouldn't work.

I don't like the EMPOWERING the tank ideas, though. It is already powerful enough. A tank should die after a set amount of seconds from a molotov. If you know how to play Tank, you can avoid these issues. Even if you do get caught on fire, it's basically a timer telling you that you better come up with a strategy quick, or you're dead. As for the auto shotguns, yeah they are powerful, but only with a group of people. You can easily do the same tactic with assault rifles. If you sit back and spray at the tank, he'll go down after a reload or two as long as everyone is shooting at it.

The hunting rifle needs to do more damage definitely, and those two infected sound incredible.

That is a good post Farmrush, I would actually prefer it if they did the 0.5 increase for players.
It's kind of weird how the only real thing that changes scoring is how many players make it to the safe room. If you notice, even if one person makes it there, the scoring is almost no different than if everyone just dies. Health has no big bonus, and the map difficulty is essentially the same for each team. However they do make a bigger impact depending on how high the score is. The Tank idea could work, but I'm not too sure. The real issue is that the whole fifth level feels so different when doing versus. It's like a different type of scoring needs to be applied there, but I know that wouldn't work.

I don't like the EMPOWERING the tank ideas, though. It is already powerful enough. A tank should die after a set amount of seconds from a molotov. If you know how to play Tank, you can avoid these issues. Even if you do get caught on fire, it's basically a timer telling you that you better come up with a strategy quick, or you're dead. As for the auto shotguns, yeah they are powerful, but only with a group of people. You can easily do the same tactic with assault rifles. If you sit back and spray at the tank, he'll go down after a reload or two as long as everyone is shooting at it.

The hunting rifle needs to do more damage definitely, and those two infected sound incredible.

Thanks for replying.

And I agree the finale does feel much different than the other maps. Awarding points for tank kills should balance that out a bit, however I think a much better system could be put into place based on duration of the finale survived. This isn't to the exclusion of the tank idea.

As for the tank dying after a set amount of time when ignited, this really isn't any different only the time can be accelerated by dealing damage to the tank. This allows tier 1 tank kills to be a little more plausible because your random pistol firing is actually reducing the time the tank is alive as well as giving the tank player some idea of how long he's going to last.

EDIT: I never realized that Sarevok! Thanks for showing me. Higher relative points for distance are in order!

EDITEDIT: I'd really like to see something like "The Reaper" added because it completely changes the whole 'hide in the closet and swing batter batter!' mentality.

Hm, this is odd. Recently the game has been momentarily freezing up at random points. Usually for about 1 or two seconds, and not terribly often. Also; it never does this with Fallout 3 or TF2; so I wonder what the problem could be...

I get this too, it's like the HL2 studder is back :\

DN found an awesome site for making achievements in L4D, it's pretty entertaining:

installing...