Topic: The Decline Of Microsoft and the Proposed Rise of MAC (Read 3678 times)

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By the way, when did schools change over to windows pcs? I remember toward the end of highschool my school started getting some dells for the typing/office classes but before that it was all apples since I was playing oregon trail in elementary school.

the fuck how old are you, I didn't think you were older than Hundley and I bet he remembers PCs in high school! they were all replaced by the time I got out of elementary school.
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By the way, when did schools change over to windows pcs? I remember toward the end of highschool my school started getting some dells for the typing/office classes but before that it was all apples since I was playing oregon trail and odell lake in elementary school.

I remember this too

I'm going to start a new trend of being random hipster dude who does all his work on an Apple II and I thought the whole point was to intentionally do uncool things you think all these emo/scene/whatever kids would at least want new Macs modeled after the old ones like that game boy that looked like an NES controller

I could seriously see getting an Apple II emulator for the nostalgia factor
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the fuck how old are you, I didn't think you were older than Hundley and I bet he remembers PCs in high school! they were all replaced by the time I got out of elementary school.
my school had shitty macs with pre-osx operating systems almost exclusively, and the ones that weren't those were a few imacs and emacs.  it's more about how broke the school is than anything.  nicer schools have tons of pcs and maybe some macs, but i don't recall ever seeing more than a couple pcs or anything made after 2000 in my high school.
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See the strange thing is that i've basically grown up using macs because my dad got an apple 2 and has only bought apple computers(cuz that's all he knows) and the whole APPLE IS HIP COOL AND CREATIVE thing is not something I've ever associated with them. And I don't buy that 'apple's crash less' bull because I've seen

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more than I have cared to

sure their less prone to the kinds of problems windows users might be used to but they're a computer and have problems.

Yeah that's panic mode. I worked for Apple's call centre and supported all of their notebooks. From my experience, macbooks in particular have some really fucked up issues. Macbook Pro is a really well designed product and you'll probably have less problems with it in the long run. Macbook Air is alright and if you purchase the solid state hard drive you'll have the notebook for years (it's physically frail so watch out).

Macbook though, guys almost all my calls were about macbooks and previous generation notebooks like the Powerbook G4 or Ibook. I think the most critical issue with these notebooks in particular is hard-drive failures. Honest to god, your hard-drive can completely die almost instantaneously, without out warning, and almost at ANYTIME (doesn't matter when you purchased it). They're a lot of issues with this series and I think they just install shitty hard disks. It's also really popular so the volume of calls related to this Macbook series is expected. Under the Apple Protection Plan, you're computer is covered for 3 years with phone support. This Apple Protection Plan (APP) can be purchased within a year after purchase. The shitty thing about APP is that it doesn't cover accidental damage so you're better off buying your warranty somewhere else like Best Buy or Futureshop.

As Dietcoke said, Apple did a lot of leg work to even convince ME that their product is some what useful. Power PC's are now gone and Apple's notebook have intel based chipsets. This basically means that you're computer can run XP and Vista (it's basically a pc now). For those who want to to play PC games on a macbook then you'll basically have to get a good video card and have the dual  OS.

Apple's Mac OS platform is very user friendly if you're NEW to computers in general. They also have some really good diagnostic tools that makes it easy to identify issues, much easier then PCs which is a major headache to try and troubleshoot OVER THE PHONE. There's a lot of pros and cons for both PCs and Macs, if I had to choose one though then I would definitely go for a PC or a Mac that has XP or something on it.

Btw, there's a lot less exploits on Apple Notebooks. There's no virus scans or whatever that come pre-installed. So if you're one of those people that turn on their computer only to get massive amount of popups and general PC slowness (Trojan, Ad-ware, Virus fest) then you should probably think about getting an Apple notebook. It takes a bit of knowledge to keep your PCs clean and safe, especially if you do anything more then simple surfering and word processing. I can see why students prefer using Apple notebooks, PCs are basically another language to a lot of people and it's much easier to get Apple products serviced.

As far as sells and GLOBAL DOMINATION BY APPLE, I highly doubt it. I know a lot of people that go into electronic stores and buy whatever they see like HP, Toshiba, Sony notebooks. Most of the cheap notebooks are available too and a lot of people still buy those today such as Toshiba's Tecra series or IBM Thinkpads or whatever.
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Really? Im suprise to hear that. Vista has been beyond frustrating for me. The Clunky interface and massive amount of bugs have severely hindered me many times. I havent had this many blue screens since I was running WIN95

hello this is from the first page: I ran Windows 95 for 6 years (96-2002) and I had the blue screen of death less than 50 times in the entire run. Probably closer to 20 times or so. Welcomes to computing!

Also, someone said that schools run PCs only now a couple pages back as well, which is nonsense: A couple years ago, almost all the terminals were imacs (they sucked a dong with their stupid one button mice).


Oh yeah I had another question: Why do so many people talk about how great macs are for music? What is so great about music on a mac? iTunes is a piece of garbage (my brother works for iTunes support and you are literally paying money to get bummed by Apple Co. [well ][/well]) and as far as I can tell barely even supports the usage of music unless it is in its own batshit proprietary format that cannot be changed/converted/enjoyed without buying addition licenses. Yes, I'm aware iTunes can run mp3s, but so can 3943984 other free, non-ram hogging programs. Who with a PC tries to run a DVD and goes OH NO THIS DVD IS BROKE TIME TO BUY A MAC TO WATCH IT!

In all me years of computage I have never had any trouble with my computer past a bunch of firewall (netplay) issues (for games Macs don't support!) and one or two hard-drive failures on several year old drives that broadcast their failures months in advance. Oh, and some spyware which I was able to contain and get rid of myself.


hey macs don't have spyware buy a mac! Except if more people buy macs, more shifty basement based software engineers are going to start making malware for macs, too. Also, on my old drive when I was really getting lambasted by spyware, my quicktime folder (which I had never used) was 800mbs large with spyware! So now I use open quicktime.

Maybe everyone thinks macs are taking over because most internet-savvy people see a macbook (or whatever) and say to themselves "Hmm there is a person I might have to slap in the near future" and commit to their memory, whereas the generally subtle grey and black windows-based notebooks don't fill them with ire.
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Oh yeah I had another question: Why do so many people talk about how great macs are for music? What is so great about music on a mac? iTunes is a piece of garbage (my brother works for iTunes support and you are literally paying money to get bummed by Apple Co. [well not literally but that's more fun to say]) and as far as I can tell barely even supports the usage of music unless it is in its own batshit proprietary format that cannot be changed/converted/enjoyed without buying addition licenses. Yes, I'm aware iTunes can run mp3s, but so can 3943984 other free, non-ram hogging programs. Who with a PC tries to run a DVD and goes OH NO THIS DVD IS BROKE TIME TO BUY A MAC TO WATCH IT!
I think they're talking about music creation/production homie. Almost all of the digital audio workstations I've seen set up were all hooked up to powermacs(mac pro now I think).

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Maybe everyone thinks macs are taking over because most internet-savvy people see a macbook (or whatever) and say to themselves "Hmm there is a person I might have to slap in the near future" and commit to their memory, whereas the generally subtle grey and black windows-based notebooks don't fill them with ire.
Does someone's choice in computer really have that much of an effect on you?
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Mac are for people who think they're cool and original and friggin' trendy. No offense, but at least at my school girls are the ones who get MacBooks.



Back to business. What's the difference now? I've seen Mac's running Windows XP/Vista and Linux. And there's not likea difference in compatibility with Windows since everything works (or tries to) work with Windows, while in Mac you're like "OH SHIT I NEED ANOTHER WINDOWS EMULATOR".


Still I'm no Windows lover. I fucking HATE Vista. Makes my GeForce 7500 GTX useless. :)
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Mac are for people who think they're cool and original and friggin' trendy. No offense, but at least at my school girls are the ones who get MacBooks.



Back to business. What's the difference now? I've seen Mac's running Windows XP/Vista and Linux. And there's not likea difference in compatibility with Windows since everything works (or tries to) work with Windows, while in Mac you're like "OH SHIT I NEED ANOTHER WINDOWS EMULATOR".


Still I'm no Windows lover. I fucking HATE Vista. Makes my GeForce 7500 GTX useless. :)

Man dude it's obvious that you just hate Macs and hate Windows slightly less, so why are you trying to pass that off as "oh it's just for people who think they're cool and trendy?"  How about they're for people who want to just do daily shit without it being a fucking hassle like it is on Windows?  If I'm just listening to music and surfing the net, my Macbook is way more stable than any other OS and doesn't do any weird shit like my Windows machine does.  You might go on to say WELL YOU COULD USE LINUX, but not only do I have Ubuntu dual-booted on my Mac, but I really prefer the way OSX works for that kind of shit!  BUT WHAT ABOUT THE COMPATIBILITY??? I have a Windows desktop JUST for about three games that I very rarely play and like...two other applications.  To be honest, my Mac has everything I want to use.  The games I want to play are OpenTTD, Civ4, Dwarf Fortress, Tropico, and a shit ton of DOS games that I can play through DOSBox (or Scummvm).  The only games I play on my Windows machine are Rollercoaster Tycoon 2 and the original Sims.  Does this mean I'm not a gamer and so Mac not having games doesn't apply to me?  No, I play games just like everyone else.  However, like a lot of people, I mostly play console games, or I play games that, surprise surprise!, are compatible with Macs.  I also have only run into one real program I need Windows for and that's pzizz.  And you know what?  There's a Mac version, I just couldn't find a serial for it.  If I put down the money for it, my Windows machine would be a Rollercoaster Tycoon machine.  Do I hate Windows?  No, I use it in computer labs or on my mom's desktop all the time, I grew up on Windows and I like Windows just fine.  Ubuntu?  I love Ubuntu to death and use it several times a week in the Linux computer lab for projects.  But Mac is my favorite for my day to day shit.

Now, you might also argue "BUT MY PROGRAMS WON'T RUN ON A MAC".  That doesn't mean every one who uses a Mac is secretly longing for a Windows machine to run programs on or has Windows on their Mac.  The only Windows OS I have on my Mac is 3.1, because I got bored two days ago.  Someone who just wants to dick around on the internet and write papers and listen to music (by the way, you weren't the one complaining about iTunes but to whoever it was I've noticed that iTunes runs INFINITELY better on a Mac than on Windows, and iTunes doesn't cause shit to slow down at all on my Macbook, so I like iTunes quite a bit) will love a Mac.  Guess what college students need to do?  Dick around on the internet and write papers and listen to music.  Do the trendy people have Macbooks?  Yes they do.  But, do the CS majors and math majors and other non-trend-whores have them too?  YES.  It has nothing to do with being TRENDY, it has to do with the fact that Apple has come back and made Macs an option again.  For a long time, Windows was the only real way to go, but now someone can walk into a store and come back out with a Mac and there be no problems whatsoever.  The most computer illiterate people can use Macs with no problem (my mom has picked up more things on my Macbook recently than she has on her Windows machine since we got it for her).  If you're some hardcore overclocker PC gamer, then sure, you'll probably prefer a windows machine.  But, just because it's not for you doesn't mean that HEH...EVERYONE THAT OWNS A MAC...THEY JUST THINK IT'S CUTE..., you have to be a complete fucking idiot to believe that Mac users are all trendy fuckers.
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you don't need a windows emulator on a mac because you can just install and run windows natively.

it seems like a lot of you really don't like macs for completely silly or non-existant reasons. why is it that so many people on the internet have such an unusually strong opinion about apple computers???
a lot of people I've met irl have STRONG OPINIONS for/against PCs and macs too. again with macs it's part of the advertising gimmick, making people feel attached to a brand (I am a mac person) is v. successful. idk why people will fabricate reasons for hating macs tho, maybe because they feel left out, or they try to feel superior for SEEING THROUGH the hip trend and then they can scoff at all the sheeple. *sips organic coffee from wholefoods* heh, go back to your starbucks
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actually the mac stereotype puts you in wholefoods with open toed shoes, pc guys would be at starbucks hitting on the barista.
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ya see if hip granola munchers were as liberal and hip as they think they are they would be linux users.

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actually the mac stereotype puts you in wholefoods with open toed shoes, pc guys would be at starbucks hitting on the barista.
yeah I guess but I couldn't have a starbucks dude scoff at wholefoods.

also while one could be judged better than the other it's still the same consumerism, regardless of how much they scoff at each other they're still exactly the same
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WHAT IW NAT TO KNOW IS HOW A MAC USER A FUCKING MAC USER HE OR SHE 9WOMEN LOVE SHINY OBJECTS ITS A FAACT BLOOD DIAMONDS ANYONE??? VELFARRE) WOULD POST ON GAMING WORLD FORUMS? HOW ARE OYU GAMING TODAY WELL IG UESS IM PLAYING MAC GAMES OH YEA THERS NONE! THERE ARE NO MAC GAMES! NO MAC GAMES AT ALL! WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO USE IT FOR WELL HMM I GUESS MICROSOFT WORDS OH YEA THATS NOT ON MACS EITHER!!! NOTHIGNS ON MACS AND YOU CALL YOURSELF A GAMER WELL HOW ABOUT I TAKE MY PS3 CONTROLLER AND STICK IT IN YOUR BUTTHOLES YOU FUC,KING MAC USER, SEMPER PC GMAES
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actually the mac stereotype puts you in wholefoods with open toed shoes, pc guys would be at starbucks hitting on the barista.

marmot thought this was a very complicated joke, but i thought it was well known that nerds hit on baristas. he also keeps calling it a troll post. basically marmot callout.
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WHAT IW NAT TO KNOW IS HOW A MAC USER A FUCKING MAC USER HE OR SHE 9WOMEN LOVE SHINY OBJECTS ITS A FAACT BLOOD DIAMONDS ANYONE??? VELFARRE) WOULD POST ON GAMING WORLD FORUMS? HOW ARE OYU GAMING TODAY WELL IG UESS IM PLAYING MAC GAMES OH YEA THERS NONE! THERE ARE NO MAC GAMES! NO MAC GAMES AT ALL! WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO USE IT FOR WELL HMM I GUESS MICROSOFT WORDS OH YEA THATS NOT ON MACS EITHER!!! NOTHIGNS ON MACS AND YOU CALL YOURSELF A GAMER WELL HOW ABOUT I TAKE MY PS3 CONTROLLER AND STICK IT IN YOUR BUTTHOLES YOU FUC,KING MAC USER, SEMPER PC GMAES

Uh DUHHHH steel there's not even any such thing as "PC" gaming because real gamers need a console that does nothing but play games to keep the games pure (game undistracted)
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Uh DUHHHH steel there's not even any such thing as "PC" gaming because real gamers need a console that does nothing but play games to keep the games pure (game undistracted)
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EV Nova is not an EXCLUSIVE though. There's a WONDOWS version as well. Put that in ur pipe and smoke it!



Yeah I used to have a Mac way back and the only games I had were mostly edutainment as well as the Doom port. EDUTAINMENT is for PANSIE'S but idk doom was p. cool.
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EV Nova is not an EXCLUSIVE though. There's a WONDOWS version as well. Put that in ur pipe and smoke it!

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Does someone's choice in computer really have that much of an effect on you?
it seems like a lot of you really don't like macs for completely silly or non-existant reasons. why is it that so many people on the internet have such an unusually strong opinion about apple computers???

I don't really care about which computer someone uses, but I often overhear someone mention pretty much anything about an apple and then suddenly a stranger will jump out of a crowd to discuss it loudly with them. It's kind of an annoying phenomenon. If someone owns a mac and is pleased to own it but not WOW I OWN A MAC BAZOOOO pleased about it, that is perfectly fine!

It wouldn't be so bad if it didn't seem like literally 100% of the time someone said the word "mac" or "apple" in the context of computing somebody else didn't immediately cock their head and start discussing some mostly inane aspect of it. This is true of most things.

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