Police detain man in subway and SHOOT HIM (video inside)

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Bled

#1 January 06, 2009, 05:13:06 pm

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Don't know how much longer this video will be available, but read the article and watch it here.

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Two videos showing a Bay Area Rapid Transit police officer fatally shooting an unarmed, cooperating 22-year-old man have surfaced, thanks to a vigilant teen and an anonymous cameraman.

According to officials, five officers arrived at a subway station around 2 a.m. in response to reports of fighting on a train. Officers handcuffed a group of suspects, and detained the soon-to-be victim, Oscar Grant III.

In both videos, though detained, Grant had clearly not been cuffed.

Mario Pangelina Jr., aunt to Grant's four-year-old daughter, witnessed the events leading up to the shooting.

"First, an officer grabbed Oscar by the neck and pushed him against the wall," the Oakland Tribune quoted her as saying. "Oscar didn't fight him, but he didn't go down either. He was like, 'What did I do?' Then another officer came up with his Taser and held it right in his face. Oscar said, 'Please don't shoot me, please don't Taser me, I have a daughter,' over and over again, real fast, and he sat down."

Footage captured by camera-phone-wielding Karina Vargas, 19, shows officers had detained several men. Over the proceeding minutes, officers become defensive as groups of yelling youths stand on the periphery and meander past.

At one point, a male shouts, "Yo, f--k the police!"

Vargas several times makes attempts to get closer. When her camera focuses on Grant, he is sitting with his back against a wall, surrounded by others in handcuffs. He holds up his hands, apparently speaking with the officers, when they force him to the ground.

Two officers struggle to turn him over, even as he appears to be strewn across another man's legs, when suddenly one of the men retrieves his gun from its holster.

At this point in Vargas' video, she turns to her immediate left and focuses on an officer wrestling another man to the ground. Then, the shot rings out.

This is honestly one of the most disturbing things I've ever seen. Right now the explanation is that the officer mistakenly drew his gun instead of his taser, but I think the video clearly shows that they had the man under control and the situation did not warrant even that.

Crazy!

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#2 January 06, 2009, 05:15:56 pm

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oh my god what does a taser to the face fucking do.

argh i bet it would like LIQUIFY HIS EYE jesus christ fucking cops.

edit: I mean that is apparently the proportional response even if you buy the gun excuse and that's still horrifying as fuck.

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#3 January 06, 2009, 05:18:49 pm

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whoops this isn't my taser! seriously that is such a bullshit excuse, how do you even make that kind of mistake?

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#4 January 06, 2009, 05:23:13 pm

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Seriously, he must have mistaken the gun for a taser unless he was mentally unstable. A taser and a gun look and feel quite the same, don't they? If he pulled it fast he could easily have grabbed the wrong one and fired before realizing his mistake.

The whole situation is weird, if not stressful when everyone around starting to yell and move towards the cops.

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#5 January 06, 2009, 05:27:53 pm

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Good God I didn't even think about a taser to the face. I don't know what would happen but I keep imagining someone clenching their teeth until they crack and EXPLODE or something.

The really terrible thing about the shooting though is that the bullet initially went straight through the guy's back and then ricocheted off of the ground and BACK INTO HIS LUNGS.

Also apparently there was a case like this a while back where an officer accidentally shot a fleeing suspect in the elbow when reaching for a taser and the courts didn't do anything about it, so this isn't the first time something like this has happened.

Last Edit: January 06, 2009, 05:31:38 pm by PICKLETEATS

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#6 January 06, 2009, 05:33:27 pm

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Fucking po-lice seriously

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#7 January 06, 2009, 05:39:13 pm

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i've seen loads of videos of police in america just getting psychotic now, it's fucking HWEIFEWHfwnkfnelf95p2r'23. that kind of anger. this shit is a horror show.

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Ryan

#8 January 06, 2009, 05:41:49 pm

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Aren't tasers and handguns shaped... totally different? how would you even mistake the two?

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#9 January 06, 2009, 05:45:57 pm

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Quote from: Ryan on January 06, 2009, 05:41:49 pm

Aren't tasers and handguns shaped... totally different? how would you even mistake the two?

I don't know anything about how the two might feel or be sized different, but a lot of tasers are shaped the same as guns.

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#10 January 06, 2009, 05:50:05 pm

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and i don't know much about tasers but why the fuck would you make them the same shape other than to maximise the chance that they might be mistaken for one another?

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#11 January 06, 2009, 05:53:48 pm

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I his defense really "I was only trying to torture him, it's not my fault I didn't put my taser in my gun holster"?

I'm guessing it's time to stop giving policemen tasers when they're using them as an excuse to shoot defenseless people in the back!

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#12 January 06, 2009, 05:55:17 pm

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tasers are shaped similar to guns because some of them "fire" and release a little roped taser, so it's so officers don't spend the extra second fumbling.

HOWEVER this is still complete bullshit no matter what because tasers are also way more bulkier and lighter if I remember right and even if he made a mistake HMM LETS TASE A GUY ON THE FLOOR.

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Bled

#13 January 06, 2009, 05:57:59 pm

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Quote from: Ryan on January 06, 2009, 05:41:49 pm

Aren't tasers and handguns shaped... totally different? how would you even mistake the two?

Figure #1

As for weight, I dunno. I'm sure somebody will compare the two in an IN-DEPTH FOX NEWS ANALYZATIONS or something sometime soon.

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tuxedo marx

#14 January 06, 2009, 06:00:23 pm

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actually:

current police issue taser.

heh just pull out my laser gun OH SHIT

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#15 January 06, 2009, 06:06:58 pm

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I still don't get why police are given those considering how badly they use them, maybe your countrys homo?

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#16 January 06, 2009, 06:07:26 pm

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So... everyone who says "no way did he pull a gun by mistake" - do you think he shot him on purpose?

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#17 January 06, 2009, 06:09:56 pm

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i really wish just once after something like this happens the people watching would just go nuts and attack the police.

viva la revolucion

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#18 January 06, 2009, 06:11:52 pm

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they'd all get shot

That’s right, you have the young gaming with the old(er), white people gaming with black people, men and women, Asian countries gaming with the EU, North Americans gaming with South Americans. Much like world sporting events like the Wolrd Cup, or the Olympics will bring together different nations in friendly competition, (note the recent Asian Cup; Iraq vs. Saudi Arabia, no violence there) we come together. The differences being, we are not divided by our nationalities and we do it 24-7, and on a personal level.

We are a community without borders and without colours, the spirit and diversity of the gaming community is one that should be looked up to, a spirit and diversity other groups should strive toward.

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Ryan

#19 January 06, 2009, 06:13:14 pm

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yeah i thought about that right after i posted it.

BUT... THERES MORE OF US THEN THEM..

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#20 January 06, 2009, 06:28:29 pm

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Quote from: stern_gupples on January 06, 2009, 06:11:52 pm

they'd all get shot

they'd prolly get tasered because the police would try to shoot them but as it turns out they are unaware of which guns fire bullets and which ones ZAP!!

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