well thats the bay area po-po for you

nothing has changed lol

I believe it's known as the "Yay Area" actually.

Wow. Why did he fire his gun. There was NO reason for that. At all.

Also,

http://current.com/items/89199297/police_assault_58_year_old_cyclist_in_denver_and_get_caught_lying_about_it.htm

This happened in Denver, and was kind of a pretty big deal. The police freaking slam this guys face into the ground, and pretty much just beat him repeatedly, all caught on tape.

Sad stuff.

So apparently there was a pretty big protest about the shooting today and a police car was overturned, along with three or four other cars that were set on fire.  14 people were arrested and the officer who killed the guy resigned the day before he was supposed to be interviewed by investigators.

This shit is crazy.

Man 2008 Rodney King dawg.

Normally I defend the cops because the job is pretty scary and the craziest shit always happens but WOW shooting an unarmed detained kid in the back is just... yeah.

I also liked this:

Last June, a Maryland district court found that an officer who shot a fleeing suspect in the elbow while believing he was firing his Taser was not guilty of violating the suspect's rights against unreasonable search and seizure.

What's Maryland teaching their officers?  Clearly a taser is a 9mm!!

I don't know if you guys have seen this but this is the clearest video available.

It's kind of surreal to me because everyone trained in state or federal firearm handling is taught "deadly force" which I can quote off the top of my head

Deadly force is that force that causes or that a person knows or should know would create a substantial risk of causing, death or serious bodily harm.  It is justified only under conditions of extreme necessity as a last resort when all lesser means have failed or cannot be reasonably employed.

There's also the three rules of gun safety

1. Never pull your weapon unless you intend to fire.
2. Never aim your weapon at anything you don't intend to shoot.
3. Never put your finger on the trigger until you intend to fire.

What the fuck are they training these cops?  In the video you can clearly see the officer in the middle search the kid (who's detained and on the ground) draw his weapon, hesitate, then pull the trigger. 

It's just too fucking surreal for me because he does it so mechanically.  Everyone has their weapon holstered and he just SUDDENLY COMES TO THE READY takes aim and fires.  This isn't a slip of the finger like I've seen in one video where a cop with her gun already pulled on a running suspect who was tackled to the ground gets excited and accidentally squeezed the trigger; this motherfucker literally drew his weapon with the intent to kill this kid.

It's like he was possessed or something.  When he fired his gun, he looks up stupidly to the cop in front of him who shakes is head and is like "What the fuck... did you just do?"

Crazy shit.  Hope that cop gets manslaughter.

There's also the three rules of gun safety

1. Never pull your weapon unless you intend to fire.
2. Never aim your weapon at anything you don't intend to shoot.
3. Never put your finger on the trigger until you intend to fire.

What the fuck are they training these cops?  In the video you can clearly see the officer in the middle search the kid (who's detained and on the ground) draw his weapon, hesitate, then pull the trigger. 

It's just too fucking surreal for me because he does it so mechanically.  Everyone has their weapon holstered and he just SUDDENLY COMES TO THE READY takes aim and fires.  This isn't a slip of the finger like I've seen in one video where a cop with her gun already pulled on a running suspect who was tackled to the ground gets excited and accidentally squeezed the trigger; this motherfucker literally drew his weapon with the intent to kill this kid.

It's like he was possessed or something.  When he fired his gun, he looks up stupidly to the cop in front of him who shakes is head and is like "What the fuck... did you just do?"

Crazy shit.  Hope that cop gets manslaughter.

I agree. There's no reason for the weapon to be drawn, period.

For those of you (and the police going with this argument) on the fact that he "confused his gun and taser," let me ask you this:

Was there really a reason for ANY type of force at all?

This is something that's clearly abundant in a lot of "police abuse" videos and news reports I've been seeing.

I look at the videos of this incident... and I can clearly see that EVERYTHING IS UNDER CONTROL.

It's not like those people who are being detained are all like, "YO GONNA FUCK YOU POLICE UP" or "YOU CAN'T KEEP ME HERE ON THE GROUND" and it's not like they're BEING HELD IN PLACE, THEN TRYING TO ESCAPE.

All the people in the video are detained in a very calm and organized fashion. There's more than enough police officers there, with enough force and utilities ASIDE from tasers and guns... to handle the situation.

Even if the guy was moving on the ground, or fidgeting... is it REALLY necessary to USE A TASER? There was an ample amount of cops there... and the people being detained did not have any deadly weapons on them. At least, no guns or anything of the sort. So... I'd like to know how, in this day in age... it's even ACCEPTED that they even need to use the tasers.

Tasers are meant to be an alternative to using your gun in EXTREME situations. For example, say the guy DID GET UP and started running. THAT would be a good time to use the TASER to incapacitate him.

However, when you're on the floor, or just fidgeting on the ground... and there's about 3 to 4 cops hovering around as well... THERE SHOULD BE NO REASON to use ANY FORCE at all.

Police have enough training to restrain people without using devices such as tasers and guns. Guns should only be used if you feel your LIFE IS IN DANGER.

I highly doubt those people on the ground co-operating were such a HUGE THREAT to that cop who shot him. Hell, the fact that he was on the ground, immobile, isn't even enough reason to use your taser. And that's the point of my rambling:

This type of force SHOULD NOT BE USED unless in EXTREME SITUATIONS. And from what I've seen in this video, and a lot of other "police brutality" videos... there's excessive force and harassment from the officers, in situations that can be handled just by cuffing a person, or hell, even standing next to them.

For those of you (and the police going with this argument) on the fact that he "confused his gun and taser," let me ask you this:

There's seriously an argument on this?

For those that have never worn a gun belt or seen an officer's gun belt, their taser gun sits on opposite side as their dominant arm.  If you're right handed, your primary weapon will always be on your right side because firearms are made for left and right handers (determines position of magazine release and slide lock).  Taser guns are designed for ambidextrous use meaning you can grab it with your weak hand and support it with your primary without switching thumb positions to compensate for a moving slide which would cut your thumbs if you didn't reposition your fingers.

There's literally no possible way this guy thought his gun was a taser.  Absolutely none.  The final nail in the coffin is that all police firearms have the safety on when they leave the station.  This means he removed the safety at some point in the day (a gross breach in safety as the safety is never to be removed unless you intend to fire) or he turned off the safety when he drew the gun in which case... yeah MURDER.  The video is still kind of blurry but when he draws his weapon you can see him hesitate for a second like his fidgeting something with his thumb (possibly the safety).

There's just no middle ground on this.  It's pretty black and white.

no there is no argument for that, thats what the dude said happened and he's probably completely full of shit


Edit: but yeah there are some ships that will hand out firearms for security measures and I'm going to have to go through small weapons training for that. But the abs on my last ship got guns and aren't even allowed to use them unless they've basically been fired at first and even then if the bullet lands on foreign soil (the ship is considered US territory) then you're fucked and its up to the host government to deal with you.

so basically what I'm saying is, if the US government can leave me hanging like that then this douche bag should be in jail right now.

i just saw the video. my heart sank when the gun was fired. completely fucked up. is there anything on what's happening to the cop that did it?

He resigned before internal affairs could investigate him. In 2 weeks Oakland will decide whether or not to press criminal charges, but if not, he's getting off scot-free.

and he better leave the entire state because if anyone finds out who he is he'll probably be gang raped in the street.

Dada, where have you been?

I shot some idiot kid while detaining him and had to lay low for a while.

Oh god Dada shot idiotkid!!!!!!