lol try listening to Autechre

it's like a robot farting into your ears

holy shit I seriously think this song is a parody of that Autechre song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAg7BIB_kKY

it's like the same exact rhythm but with good sonics

warning: fucking fast song

Edit: Maybe not like drum beat for drum beat but it's like yeah Autechre here's what you meant to do

holy shit I seriously think this song is a parody of that Autechre song

nope it's on their Draft 7.30 album

nope it's on their Draft 7.30 album

no autechre makes song and then aphex twin makes fun of it

I don't think you understand

like it's basically the electronica equivalent of when rappers diss each other (is it still called that or is that like from the 1980s oh god)

I think the idea of the song is Autechre doesn't get laid but I can't prove this yet

Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaristice.Quadrange.ep.ae artwork by designers republic

Edit: I don't really know if it's really poking fun at AE but like random people on the internet have proven Aphex Twin posts as such and such on the internet giving inflated reviews to his stuff and making fun of other IDM guys

no autechre makes song and then aphex twin makes fun of it

I don't think you understand

like it's basically the electronica equivalent of when rappers diss each other (is it still called that or is that like from the 1980s oh god)

I think the idea of the song is Autechre doesn't get laid but I can't prove this yet

Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaristice.Quadrange.ep.ae artwork by designers republic

Edit: I don't really know if it's really poking fun at AE but like random people on the internet have proven Aphex Twin posts as such and such on the internet giving inflated reviews to his stuff and making fun of other IDM guys

oh nvm I didn't click the link you posted, I thought you were saying that the one I posted was a parody

IDM is the most pretentious genre ever

speaking of aphex twin though....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P3Wc-37pC4 the beginning of this video is the best thing

hahaha what. ragnar justice is huge right now in the INDIE crowd how did you miss this!

I don't pay attention to the hot/popular music at the time that's why I have brief flickers of happiness at times

But yeah out of both the distorted Aphex face videos by Chris Cunningham Windowlicker is the better one. Come to Daddy makes me worry some stupid kids are going to run around like those 4chan guys who dressed up as V but instead with aphex masks on and bothering random people. Windowlicker is even 1000x creepier really and intro + umbrella stuff is awesome

Edit: Justice sounds exactly like Daft Punk without the fun/humor

whats justice?

IDM is the most pretentious genre ever

but yeah I was agreeing with you, anything that's IDM and halfway decent is also some other genre like ambient (Boards of Canada is definitely ambient) or jungle or house etc. the only stuff that maybe is too abstract to be called IDM is like the American stuff that isn't worth listening to either

seriously I listened to this guy called PROEM who is supposed to be one of the best modern IDM artists and clicked on his top song and I almost died seriously it wasn't enjoyable at all

Even the new guys on Warp Records don't seem very good like this guy named CLARK who is definitely better but only in the sense of I could listen to the whole thing if I had to

Also if it's not emo futuremusic it doesn't get called IDM any more The Knife should definitely be IDM imo

sorry that I don't listen to top40 charts or pitchfork media.

i don't even know what IDM is anymore. is it shit like venetian snares (which are only ever good when you're high/tripping) or what? everytime i go to blogs i see shit listed as "IDM" even if its nothing like venetian snares/the flashbulb or whatever. is jon hopkins, the london apartments (kind of obscure, but check them out), !!!, the rapture IDM?? Is it just GKBHDSGJKFHDBFGELECTRONIC NOISE or is it dance music with "intelligent" lyrics or?

I'm pretty sure it was a term to separate like more sophisticated/experimental stuff than the usual house music or whatever was around at the time that maybe you can't dance to but it's supposed to be worth listening to

like I guess early Aphex Twin could be considered house but if you just said he did house music people would get a very different idea of it

oh ok Bjork is considered IDM too but I think Royksopp/The Knife should be considered IDM too so it's a really really arbitrary label

also Flashbulb is pretty awful I'll probably get over Venetian Snares but he was like the most exciting thing to come out of that area of music in a while. He's supposed to be breakcore I don't know where the IDM bit came from maybe because he messes around with time signatures a lot and he's noisy

Sorry if I seem obsessed with Aphex Twin it's just that half these guys are trying to ride his coattails anyway and really every IDM song you hear now is probably an Aphex Twin song that was done 1000x better by Aphex Twin

Radiohead might be IDM in any case Thom Yorke really really likes it right

Edit: Wikipedia listed Radiohead as "experimental rock" they should've just called IDM EDM for Experimental Dance Music (although lots of people use EDM for Electronic Dance Music already?) this would be a much better name imo because you can't really deny that it's experimental

I can see the knife and possibly even royksopp being IDM, but how in the world are bjork and radiohead anything even close to dance?

well it's not that but Radiohead likes people like Autechre a lot, so they definitely influence their later music

I don't know how Bjork is IDM possibly because every IDM fan secretly wants to marry Bjork. Also Bjork works with the members of LFO (Low Frequency Oscillation not those other guys) who are like the first IDM guys - they might've even had the first Warp Records record

Edit: Yeah I mean look up 'artists on Warp Records' and basically everyone who pops up is remotely enjoyable although Richard Devine is pretty fucking bad too

seriously every guy I've heard somebody enjoying on here like Squarepusher and Boards of Canada was on Warp Records at some point I think IDM might've even meant 'people on Warp Records' when it first started

Edit: Ok there's a lot of gay indie bands on Warp Records now, but like anyone who was on Warp Records prior to 1997 was decent (lol including Autechre with regard to themselves)

Edit: Seriously I picked 1997 at random but 1998 is the year Autechre turned shitty

Edit: 1997 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXSG7CDmemM

1998 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbHp24SAkb8&feature=related

wtf happened there

Edit: I really need to look up Kid 606 more/pirate some albums. I actually found an album of his in the CD bin at the college radio station but I don't think it's supposed to be his best one

but yeah like half the tracks on that album are called like SLAMMIN' RAGGA BOOTLEG TRACK and I think when I do like Venetian Snares they're always sample-heavy sort of stuff like that

Edit: Like Hand Throw and Epidermis are pretty enjoyable

you guys are so fucking modern and trendy where's the talk about stravinsky and thcaikovsky?

Fucking hipseter posers.

man thats a discussion you cant force

here they were discussing hipho pdn electros and shit and you come along like a big old gnome and drop your poop

you dropped your poop why did you do it

im listening to curtis mayfield at the moment

superfly

oh my got curtis mayfield is awesome

I've been groovin to 'Curtis' a lot lately