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16
87 51.5%
-16
67 39.6%
I don't know how to do this math
15 8.9%

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Poll -4^2 (Read 10413 times)

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i dunno what this means i'm referring to the fact that like a year ago mkkmypet was a staunch creationist and i got so mad i told her something along the lines of I DONT CARE IF YOU'RE 13 STOP BRINGING THIS UP BECAUSE YOU'RE AWFUL AT THIS OR I WILL STRANGLE YOU.
yup I remember this. at least one quarter of the world's population is christian. the dangers of talking about common sense like there is any such thing.
Last Edit: February 20, 2009, 10:08:24 pm by Rockman
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ds predicted this poll would end up 70/30 for -16 but its at like 57% only. I really thought more people remembered the old topic but no!

magical negro you betta not be makin fun of me.

common sense dictates man should do everything in his power to pass on his genes to his offspring OOP GAYS MUST BE OPPOSITE OF COMMON SENSE

no it was actually funny. MATH OPERATION IS COMMON SENSE *ignores what common sense means entirely*
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I DONT CARE IF YOU'RE 13 STOP BRINGING THIS UP BECAUSE YOU'RE AWFUL AT THIS OR I WILL STRANGLE YOU.

heh this ones going into my quote book for proof later on
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it's always funny when a 13 year old tries to lecture a bunch of adults
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pedmas you save me once again
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our education system is crap. Things like sports and nutrition are higher priority than maths and science. The past 20 years or so our numbers of scientists and engineers and shit have really plummeted. But on the plus side people know that an apple is healthier than a chocolate bar. Just... they'll still eat the chocolate.
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mkkmypet: 4x^2 is not the same thing as -x^2 at all. The former is multiplication, the later is negation, they're two completely different things. And everyone who thinks of rationalizing that logic by saying that it's the same thing because you can negate something by multiplying by -1, keep in mind that you can't just magically change -4^2 to -1*4^2. If it was as simple as that, the votes in this poll would be much more in favor to -16. If people are asked that what -1*4^2 is, many more people would say -16 instead of 16. Using my former example, if you could do that, then you could as well use any expression that results in -4 to replace it in the equation. -2*2 is same as -4, but -2*2^2 sure as hell is not -16. You can't just replace -4 magically with -1*4 without properly adding parenthesis around it just because it happens to give the right result. If you want to break it to smaller parts (called expanding), you need to add parenthesis, otherwise you're breaking the rules of mathematics. Just because it happens to give the right result, doesn't mean it's the right way to do it.

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whenever you say 95% OF PEOPLE DONT KNOW PEMDAS RAMI... you are including people's parents and shit who haven't been in school for years and use math for tips. it's not as excusable when you're in your low twenties. everyone at gw should know order of operations man. I know thats bourgeosie as fuck but come on.
Yeah I guess it was bit too much to say everyone, because it includes all those africans that never went to school, but you know exactly what I meant. I meant educated people, such as the people who visit this forum. And it's not that easy to forget these very basic rules of maths. Most people need maths in their daily life, at least from my experience. Let it be calculating some sort of a budget, or taxes, or whatever. I am not talking about some native Indians here, which apparently some people think I'm referring to. I'm talking about people who were at some point of time taught this. Just because you don't know what pemdas or bodmas or whatever acronym means, doesn't mean you don't know about what they refer to (because in this case you almost definitely do).
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When you all explained it, I felt sort of stupid. I really need to review my math.
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sidenote: maths is a slightly annoying abbreviation. no one is like "dude has got a lot of creds" when they mean "credentials", "cred" is fine. the extra s is weird. I wonder how that came about.

When you all explained it, I felt sort of stupid. I really need to review my math.

dont feel too bad about it; it's just a weird thing that a lot of people seem to do. I mean keep in mind quite a few people voting -16 this time voted 16 the first time the topic came around.
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If people are asked that what -1*4^16 is, many more people would say -16 instead of 16.

if you think that is 16 you're clearly not as good as i thought you were....
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ramirez: pro maths
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Maybe you should read the sentence again?

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Maybe you should read the sentence again?

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Most people need maths in their daily life, at least from my experience. Let it be calculating some sort of a budget, or taxes, or whatever.

but for 99% of those people, it's only going to be /*-+ and converting things into percentages or something. even basic squaring barely ever comes into use in daily life
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Maybe you should read the sentence again?

Maybe you should read the sentence again?

LOOK CLOSELY RAMI, YOU CAN DO IT
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ok it was a stupid mistake fixed it now :(
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I don't know about anyone else but I think its kind of shitty when she comes in here and says something stupid and everyone is like "lol dumb kiddy".

She's not going to absorb what you're telling her or even care if you treat her like a child everytime she posts something stupid. You treat her like shes just as stupid as everyone lese.
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I did that on porpose
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but she IS just as stupid as everyone else....that's the point....

also i trumped rami at maths. brits 1 europe 0
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not everyone called her dumb kiddy. my parents sure as hell didn't. neither did sarevok's.

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