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http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2009/02/24/one-or-two-units-of-alcohol-a-day-can-increase-the-risk-of-cancer/

Okay so we all know too much alchohol can greatly increase the chance of getting cancer, but this study shows that any consumption of any alchohol period will increase the risks of getting cancer by a "signficant margin" (15% for those who drink 1-2 units a day). Basically this study, and many before it puts it this way, the more you drink and how long until your next drink will determine how big that risk of getting cancer is. But also that it doesn't matter what kind of alchohol it is it'll still increase your chances relatively equally.

Anyways despite that it's a study on woman, this probably also applies to men too, just specific details have not been found.
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I didn't know too much alcohol can increase the chances of getting cancer. 

But honestly, there's so much crap that influences cancer that this won't affect my alcohol consumption.  There's genes, activity, sunlight, exposure to just about fucking anything, and a bunch of other crap.  I'd rather risk getting cancer than quit drinking beer.  Besides, I can continue drinking beer even if I get cancer. 

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I'd rather risk getting cancer than quit drinking beer.  Besides, I can continue drinking beer even if I get cancer. 

you shouldn't and you shouldn't, you're dumb.

however this study is dumber! it surveys women only, british women only, and probably mostly white women. the comments touch on this, although the blog writer keeps defending the study a lot. this is far from a scientific survey and just because a million women were surveyed, it does not mean a million cancer patients were, and when breast cancer is a substantial part of the survey, I'm not sure your scary topic title is merited.
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ALOT of shit can give you cancer this is dumb I mean its good to know I guess but its still dumb. why don't they put the money on these stupid studies trying to demonize everything considered sinful and cure goddamn cancer.

its a good thing I don't drink as often anymore though. Don't want to get CANCER even though I probably will at some point the odds aren't looking very good and I'll do my best to avoid it but I'm not going to obsess or worry or cut this kind of shit out because OH NO CHANCES OF CANCER
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I'm really surprised two people said they didn't know heavy drinking caused cancer. it causes RECTAL CANCER of all the fucking things too. yeah don't drink heavily it's a huge risk factor for rectal cancer.
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I was skeptical and became alarmed when I read:

"Although many people believe that wine, and red wine in particular, is generally good for their health, scientific studies say otherwise."

especially since I've read numerous studies that state otherwise and there's a lot of research on resveratrol going on.
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my grandpa had colon cancer and he luckily got through it and my grandma died from it among other things (both on my dads side) my mom's side seems pretty good about not getting it but you never know

I don't want a tumor in my ass anything but that I could lose a nut I don't use them very often anyways
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I was skeptical and became alarmed when I read:

"Although many people believe that wine, and red wine in particular, is generally good for their health, scientific studies say otherwise."

especially since I've read numerous studies that state otherwise and there's a lot of research on resveratrol going on.

i saw this too and didn't get it. I mean look at this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine#Health_effects

its on...wikipedia...

but for real aren't there way more studies FOR red wine?
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i saw this too and didn't get it. I mean look at this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine#Health_effects

its on...wikipedia...

but for real aren't there way more studies FOR red wine?

If you type RED WINE into science daily you'll get like 30-50 articles on it.
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This "Journal of the National Cancer Institute" looks pretty legit (Oxford publication) but the study itself is pretty dumb.

http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/djn514v1 - Go here to read the non-media version.

A) It is ridiculously short for a scientific paper.
B) I can't find any data (tables/figures) to support their conclusions. It is pretty sketchy
C) The only thing this study showed is a correlation between alcohol consumption and cancer IN WOMEN. Nothing about men.
D) If you read the journal, breast cancer incidence due to alcohol consumption rose by 11 cancers per 1000 cancers (or women? not sure, wording is awkward) for BREAST cancer
E) All of the other tested cancer incidence rates rose by approximately 1 per 1000. That's a 0.1% higher risk. That's within random error for a study like this. I call biased bullshit.


All this confirms to me is alcohol consumption raises risk of breast cancer in women. Period.
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The question is Dr. Ase......do I gotta worry aboutmy boobies falling off??
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I think I will continue to live my life under the assumption that these "studies" are a load of shit like all the other "studies" out there.

Drinking causes cancer.
Not drinking causes cancer.
Everything causes cancer.
Last Edit: February 27, 2009, 05:33:48 am by Bobberticus
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I was skeptical and became alarmed when I read:

"Although many people believe that wine, and red wine in particular, is generally good for their health, scientific studies say otherwise."

especially since I've read numerous studies that state otherwise and there's a lot of research on resveratrol going on.

it could easily be a case of asprin in the arsenic

check the P values ASE

also i don't know if the stereotype holds true in britain or not but the type of women that would drink regularly you would expect to be at a higher risk for other forms of cancer. i am a student and i'd have trouble finding someone that had 2 units of alcohol a day unless it was averaged. stressed execs white wine with their valium cigarette sex
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In these types of studies, you'll always find contradicting points of view. As for alcohol, some studies like this, shows it increases the risks of cancer. While several other show the contrary.

My point? Just take it cool with alcohol. :-)
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So yeah the French drink wine every day and live longer than anybody??
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So yeah the French drink wine every day and live longer than anybody??
Other factors play a role but yeah wine is healthy!  The entire Mediterranean diet is one of the healthiest in the world.
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change OP to "get you drunk"
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Alcohol is a solvent. It dissolves all the bad and leaves the good. You use alcohol to clean away bad things, open wounds etcetera. If you drink alcohol it cleans away the bad things.
This is simple science and I wish more could understand it but the way the United States education system is set up I fear this will never be a reality.
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Easy way to prove/disprove this: Steel have you EVER drank a beer? y/n