Hey guys,

I've got into a band recently and the drummer loves hip hop but hasn't heard a lot of it (he was raised on metal). I'm making him a mix with hip hop/rap/r&b tracks with great drums and any suggestions are welcome!

Any rock/hip hop songs that are actually half decent are totally welcome as well. Even stuff like RatM since I haven't heard them in ages.

Tracks with drums that he could study and try to replay are better, but electronic stuff is good as well. A mix of both would be best. Different tempos and tracks with singers (or even samples for the hook) would be really useful as well.

I can't find the original song BUT

K'naan - Waving Flag. definitely listen to it (limewire etc)


heres the acoustic version sorry i couldnt find the original on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxmEd9lcn0k

the roots use a live band this might be more what you need.

K THIS ONE TOO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu3biFTak2I

ABC's same dude

yeah what steel said this song comes to mind

The Roots - Rising Down
[mp3]http://gamingw.net/pubaccess/55151/14%20Rising%20Up%20(featuring%20Chrisett%20Mic.mp3[/mp3]

also this track has some really good drums but they're sampled and sliced

Dj Numark and Pomo - Melody
[mp3]http://gamingw.net/pubaccess/55151/01%20Melody.mp3[/mp3]

i'll try to find some more later if you want

Pharoahe Monch does it really well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxC4yV_IMf0 - push
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_r6j7Awx2g - got you

Jedi Mind Tricks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNITJsOrHr0

I can only find stuff with just rhythm drum beats no solo stuff or anything like that and it might be synthesis or something but it still sounds like a drum set to me.

Yeah this stuff is really good guys, I've lost all my music so anything is good since I'm drawing a blank! The Roots are definitely gonna feature prominently.

A lot of sage francis's stuff he did with AOI has nice drums on it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddyh262pYyc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtGdHlE9iK8
Also DJ shadow is good for sampled drum stuff although idk if you specifically wanted something with rapping over it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRS8cM4lyKY

i cant give a specific example at the moment but 'a tribe called quest' might have some of what youre looking for fo sure.

It's hard to pinpoint exact ATCQ songs that have particularly great drums but they're all good songs for a non hip-hopper to hear if he wants to get into it so I'm just gonna burn him paths of rhythm.

you could probably just tell him to make a steady beat that you can rap to, if he listens to anything other then metal he should get that and then work from there.

But yeah I never liked hip hop and just got into it (thanks to GWs) and I love a bunch of it alot. I even want to learn some flow so I can start making my own rap beats and stuff, it'll take alot of work for this white boy tho.

Why use a drummer to play rap/hip-hop when you could just make the beats on a drum machine or computer-engineer it? I mean, the rhythm hardly ever changes and it doesn't take much talent.

The only music that takes talent is really fast and technical stuff huh

I never said that. I said that genres like rap really don't require an experienced percussionist/drummer when you could just loop the same beats over and over again for you to talk through. Every other genre such as jazz, blues, country, and rock obviously require talents of a real percussionist/drummer since those forms of music don't always play the same musical rhythm over and over again in any song. That is why these genres are more distinctive and more deserving the aid of percussionists/drummers than rap.

oh hey, try GALACTIC! I just remembered they were a jam band first. get that The Corner song because it has gift of gab not totally sucking and he has an absurd verse where he raps like 30 lines without taking a breath.

The only music that takes talent is really fast and technical stuff huh

the fuck are you doing, that's not what he said at all. how many rap groups even play with a drummer man. I will grant there's a good chance THE HUNTER'S METAL is coming from a place neither of us would agree with but he's not wrong. live bands are far from necessary in hiphop, and imho you can do a bit more cooler stuff with two turntables than with drums as far as hiphop goes.

now ptizzle did say R&Bish tracks too which changes things but he's not wrong.

sig is kind of bad tho...

or it could be something from an RPG??? face it ya blew it! rap drumming does not take much talent at all. beat making does but the basic ba-dum-tish can be done by anyone.