nah man trust me i don't need any help finding this type of music.  if i have a thing, this is it

gimme some bort music.  gimme some sludge or some psycho-something.

yeah i feel the same way.  i don't like being like heh.....newshit, because there are genuinely good new bands within this genre, but like you said, a lot of it seems to be an uninspired rehash of the shit that happened 20-30 years ago and it's fairly undisguised.  if i just wanted more of the same i would be alright with this but generally speaking it is not as good.  it is just attempt at capturing old style minus the inspiration and talent that was the basis and driving force behind said old style.  what you are left with is a HOLLOW MOCKERY, if you will, of what bands like ymg or wire did.

ahaha thats harsh but idk.  i just don't care about it that much.  i think the problem is, bands like wire had a ton of influences at the time.  the sound they created was a direct result of numerous other sounds that other people created.  and the same goes for most of the other good postpunk/shoegaze/whatever groups.  the newer incarnations of these bands seem pretty intent on trying to replicate this one style without letting anything else in.  i think a lot of the problem with <genre> revival or 2nd and 3rd wave iterations of genres is that the acts who belong to the scenes are too unimaginative to try to do anything but recreate the sounds they like and do not really appreciate the varying types of music that went into making that sound.  it is like the musical equivalent of a final fantasy fangame, essentially.  it's really limited and one-note.


also hey i don't have anything from wire after the 80s.  are they still any good?  not many bands can KEEP IT UP for 30+ years.  like how does it compare to their first three albums?  these are by a wide margin my favorites.

also yea borto i know what you're saying now.  i think i was talkin about this to yourhero a few days ago maybe.  just this kind of IMAGE that they are painfully trying to exude.  it's appealing but that's because it's supposed to be.  ultimately i think it's probably contrived and quasi-cinematic and both of these things irritate me, yeah.

yeah i feel the same way.  i don't like being like heh.....newshit, because there are genuinely good new bands within this genre, but like you said, a lot of it seems to be an uninspired rehash of the shit that happened 20-30 years ago and it's fairly undisguised.  if i just wanted more of the same i would be alright with this but generally speaking it is not as good.  it is just attempt at capturing old style minus the inspiration and talent that was the basis and driving force behind said old style.  what you are left with is a HOLLOW MOCKERY, if you will, of what bands like ymg or wire did.

oh fuck wall-of-text pandapost.

actually i can agree with this. i can probably pick out like 10 new shoegaze acts off the top of my head that pretty much all sound the same / try too hard to capture the old style without really adding in anything of their own. i only included fleeting joys because they really really sounded like MBV to me.

the kinda good thing about them though is that sometimes its like having new songs by old bands (though this...rarely happens..)

is that a wall of text?  i have a rather large monitor so it's hard for any paragraph to seem oversized to me.  whoops.  idk i'd rather have them imitating good old styles than sucking but the ideal would be that NEW INTERESTING MUSICAL STYLES would be happening right now instead of _____ revival and so on.  i guess you got electroshit but..........no thanks

lol my screen is kind of small so it sort of is. i just find it funny that half the time i scroll through topics generally full of one-liners and then see a post by you i just think to myself "this is going to be several paragraphs" and it usually is.

and yeah, better SHOEGAZE/NOISE revival then ... 80s hair metal or something. tbh I can't think of that many new interesting musical styles nowadays; it's mostly combining old styles together. the only distinct one I can think of is post rock...

that was like less than a paragraph and only took  up like a third of my screen (i have it zoomed in a lot because i'm a little far away from the screen)

w/e my monitor is sorta small, let's move on ppl.

new genres of the 21st century: ???

lol lcd soundsystem is like ... electro-dance-punk?

i was mainly remarking on how panda always makes multiple-paragraph posts!!