North Korea Fires Missile, Claims peace but considered act of provocation.

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Evangel

#41 April 08, 2009, 03:05:56 pm

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Whose dick you gotta suck to fire an ICBM around here?

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#42 April 09, 2009, 11:48:14 am

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NUKE EM, DAMN YOU US OF A ARE CRAZY SON OF BITCHES. YOUS AND YOUR MILITARY ARE SO HARDCORE. LOL.

US States are so obsessed when they themselves are also a threat to other nations, if North Korea is replaced by none other then Obama Bin Laden.

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#43 April 09, 2009, 11:54:36 am

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Quote from: benos on April 09, 2009, 11:48:14 am

NUKE EM, DAMN YOU US OF A ARE CRAZY SON OF BITCHES. YOUS AND YOUR MILITARY ARE SO HARDCORE. LOL.

US States are so obsessed when they themselves are also a threat to other nations, if North Korea is replaced by none other then Obama Bin Laden.

That's great since people aren't saying this except you.

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Draak

#44 April 09, 2009, 12:12:03 pm

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Quote from: benos on April 09, 2009, 11:48:14 am

NUKE EM, DAMN YOU US OF A ARE CRAZY SON OF BITCHES. YOUS AND YOUR MILITARY ARE SO HARDCORE. LOL.

US States are so obsessed when they themselves are also a threat to other nations, if North Korea is replaced by none other then Obama Bin Laden.

This is painful to read-- the lack of a thought-process, in any form, is nothing short of staggering.

We may be a threat to other nations- wait, what nations?
Who are we a threat to other than Middle Easterners?

I mean, I know that's a bit cold to say, but really. If someone's a shade of yellow and darker, then we're a threat. Until then, we tend to be a fair bit more diplomatic.

What you're spouting (and I use spouting very appropriately, as it seems that you strung those words and letters together as if by random happen-stance) is utter nonsense, as we've never just "bombed for the sake of bombing."

We might have acted on misinformation after 9/11, but it was in response to what was a deemed a "threat to the military AND civilian population."

It's like getting hit with a rock on the playground.
If you're PISSED OFF ENOUGH, you just hit whoever seems most likely to have thrown it.

You can bash the US all they want, but when your country is in the shit, they tend to save your sorry ass.

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#45 April 09, 2009, 01:18:02 pm

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Quote from: Draak on April 09, 2009, 12:12:03 pm

This is painful to read-- the lack of a thought-process, in any form, is nothing short of staggering.

We may be a threat to other nations- wait, what nations?
Who are we a threat to other than Middle Easterners?

I mean, I know that's a bit cold to say, but really. If someone's a shade of yellow and darker, then we're a threat. Until then, we tend to be a fair bit more diplomatic.

What you're spouting (and I use spouting very appropriately, as it seems that you strung those words and letters together as if by random happen-stance) is utter nonsense, as we've never just "bombed for the sake of bombing."

We might have acted on misinformation after 9/11, but it was in response to what was a deemed a "threat to the military AND civilian population."

It's like getting hit with a rock on the playground.
If you're PISSED OFF ENOUGH, you just hit whoever seems most likely to have thrown it.

You can bash the US all they want, but when your country is in the shit, they tend to save your sorry ass.

i think you're seriously underplaying some things here. we have a long history of being places we do not belong. just saying we "acted on misinformation" is a gross understatement. we've been at war with Iraq for years; 200,000+ civilian casualties. not to mention all the people in pakistan we've killed

and whose ass have we saved?? im confused.

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#46 April 09, 2009, 03:01:24 pm

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Quote from: Draak on April 09, 2009, 12:12:03 pm

This is painful to read-- the lack of a thought-process, in any form, is nothing short of staggering.

We may be a threat to other nations- wait, what nations?
Who are we a threat to other than Middle Easterners?

I mean, I know that's a bit cold to say, but really. If someone's a shade of yellow and darker, then we're a threat. Until then, we tend to be a fair bit more diplomatic.

What you're spouting (and I use spouting very appropriately, as it seems that you strung those words and letters together as if by random happen-stance) is utter nonsense, as we've never just "bombed for the sake of bombing."

We might have acted on misinformation after 9/11, but it was in response to what was a deemed a "threat to the military AND civilian population."

It's like getting hit with a rock on the playground.
If you're PISSED OFF ENOUGH, you just hit whoever seems most likely to have thrown it.

You can bash the US all they want, but when your country is in the shit, they tend to save your sorry ass.

hit hte nail on the head buddy. keep posting!

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#47 April 09, 2009, 05:37:42 pm

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Quote from: Beasley on April 09, 2009, 01:18:02 pm

i think you're seriously underplaying some things here. we have a long history of being places we do not belong. just saying we "acted on misinformation" is a gross understatement. we've been at war with Iraq for years; 200,000+ civilian casualties. not to mention all the people in pakistan we've killed

and whose ass have we saved?? im confused.

Over half of Europe in World War II, not to mention the fact that our presence alone often acts as a deterrent of war.
I'm not saying that the United States deserves much of glory that it gets, but the fact remains: Without the United States, a lot of foreign policy would be policy anymore. It'd be THE LAW governed by a DICTATOR.

Sure, they do a lot of REALLY BAD THINGS. But--

The US has saved the world countless times, and I hate to admit that, but it's the truth.

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#48 April 09, 2009, 05:43:56 pm

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dude, I don't understand your posts. Assuming the US has saved the world countless times, why would you "hate to admit that"? Do you hate the United States? Would this be a cause for embarrassment?

I am very bad at history but

Quote from: Draak on April 09, 2009, 05:37:42 pm

not to mention the fact that our presence alone often acts as a deterrent of war.

lol

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Evangel

#49 April 09, 2009, 06:03:21 pm

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Considering the U.S. accounts for about 47% of the world's total military spending, I'd say they're pretty damn influential in foreign policies.

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Draak

#50 April 09, 2009, 08:46:00 pm

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Quote from: ase on April 09, 2009, 05:43:56 pm

dude, I don't understand your posts. Assuming the US has saved the world countless times, why would you "hate to admit that"? Do you hate the United States? Would this be a cause for embarrassment?

I am very bad at history but
lol

I'm not saying I'm fond of all of the US policies, be it diplomatic or military.
But, I do feel that to assume we're always on a high horse is a bit unrealistic, and somewhat offensive.
Certainly, our leaders to make piss-poor to downright stupid choices, but I feel that saying we're self-obsessed is erroneous. More often than not, our influence/presence in other countries is necessary, and usually for the sake of said "other country"

I think it can hear you, Ray...

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#51 April 10, 2009, 03:09:14 am

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Quote from: Beasley on April 09, 2009, 01:18:02 pm

and whose ass have we saved?? im confused.

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#52 April 10, 2009, 03:43:24 am

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Quote from: Draak on April 09, 2009, 08:46:00 pm

I'm not saying I'm fond of all of the US policies, be it diplomatic or military.
But, I do feel that to assume we're always on a high horse is a bit unrealistic, and somewhat offensive.
Certainly, our leaders to make piss-poor to downright stupid choices, but I feel that saying we're self-obsessed is erroneous. More often than not, our influence/presence in other countries is necessary, and usually for the sake of said "other country"

i have a hard time thinking of many (if any) examples where america served primarily to keep the peace without some sort of ulterior motive dude. please, enlighten me, cuz im coming up dry.

also WW2 was def. the most popular war we've ever been a part of but there's more to it then just SAAAAVE THE JEWS. genocide is happening like........ all the time. we really don't act unless we've got some profit in mind!!

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Ryan

#53 April 10, 2009, 11:30:04 am

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WW2 had nothing to do with stopping the holocaust, btw.

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#54 April 10, 2009, 12:31:30 pm

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iirc the US had very little to do with fighting the Nazis in general (if anything)

but yeah the US has done plenty of good things, but they just HAPPENED to be helpful, all of them were in the US's own interest, it was just an added bonus that it was helping out to make us look good

did you think the marshall plan was because we just felt like helping out because we're so good?????

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Ryan

#55 April 10, 2009, 12:35:35 pm

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iirc the US had very little to do with fighting the Nazis in general (if anything)

what? the US had a significant role in the downfall of the Nazis.

and the marshall plan was to quell the large gains socialist and communist parties were getting in western european elections following WW2

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#56 April 10, 2009, 02:38:28 pm

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Quote from: Velfarre on April 10, 2009, 12:31:30 pm

iirc the US had very little to do with fighting the Nazis in general (if anything)

The US really just kind of brushed aside the beleaguered German armies in France at the end of the war and pushed them out of the France, the low countries and Western Germany. They did fight in Africa and Italy as well though, and although arguably the Brits could have won without them there's no denying they sped things up, which was crucial considering the fact that the Reds were killing supermen at an alarming rate. If the US hadn't entered the European theatre there is a good chance the Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Austria and maybe even Italy would have had communist governments (or governments-in-exile) and West Germany wouldn't have existed at all.

Some people will claim the Germans were a hard fight in France, but there is no denying they were ready to be knocked over by anyone willing to engage them on even terms for more than a couple hours.

Anyways the US did save most of the Pacific from being controlled by the Japanese, although they did a pretty crummy job on the mainland ("should we help the Nationalists fight the Communists? naw what harm can a couple of red Chinese do?" "oh dang, we forgot about Korea"). Now we have the PRC and North Korea, and we also have the Vietnamese police action (not a war guys, right?

) do remember their amazing legacy by!

Does anyone remember the Wind and the Lion starring Brian Keith as Teddy Roosevelt and Sean Connery as the Raisuli? That is how the US should handle it's foreign policy. Have a bunch of Marines in dress uniform run up to their enemies, shoot them in the face while the rest of the world watches, and then leave. Good ol' Teddy Roosevelt. He would have ended the war on terror in no time flat. He'd also have Osama stuffed and put on display in the Smithsonian when he was finished with him.

edit: it sounds like I'm ragging on the US but international politics is pretty hard so they've done a pretty good job, all things considered. I do think that the US has had a major impact on the foreign policies of every other nation on the Earth since WW2, though, just because they exist. It's a hard thing not to take into consideration!

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Ryan

#57 April 10, 2009, 02:44:07 pm

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teddy roosevelt was a horrible person.

also you're forgetting that while the USA had a considerably easier time taking western europe as opposed to the soviets taking eastern europe (theres no doubt that the soviets were fighting the majority of the nazi military) they were supplying the vast majority of equipment and supplies. iirc at the peak of US industrial production during WWII us factories were producing more than germany, britain, and the ussr combined.

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#58 April 10, 2009, 05:30:39 pm

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lol this fuckin' topic

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#59 April 11, 2009, 04:48:55 am

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Quote from: Draak on April 09, 2009, 12:12:03 pm

This is painful to read-- the lack of a thought-process, in any form, is nothing short of staggering.

We may be a threat to other nations- wait, what nations?
Who are we a threat to other than Middle Easterners?

I mean, I know that's a bit cold to say, but really. If someone's a shade of yellow and darker, then we're a threat. Until then, we tend to be a fair bit more diplomatic.

What you're spouting (and I use spouting very appropriately, as it seems that you strung those words and letters together as if by random happen-stance) is utter nonsense, as we've never just "bombed for the sake of bombing."

We might have acted on misinformation after 9/11, but it was in response to what was a deemed a "threat to the military AND civilian population."

It's like getting hit with a rock on the playground.
If you're PISSED OFF ENOUGH, you just hit whoever seems most likely to have thrown it.

You can bash the US all they want, but when your country is in the shit, they tend to save your sorry ass.

ok you are simply spouting (and my use of 'spouting' is quite adept, as you are repeating the S sound) tripe. a reason the US is dangerous is because it's people think south korea having a missile would mean the pentagon could undergo some major renovations soon. the logistics of sending a missile across the globe without it being detected in enough time to be intercepted are prohibitive, that's why people hijack your planes with box cutters.

a single nuke wouldn't do much anyway, the nuclear weapon may be the most powerful but a single bomb is nowhere near able to wipe out a nation in the blink of an eye; russia and the us have thousands of them.

the us are the badguys. thanks for saving us in ww2 dudes, we'd be toast if it weren't for you! thanks for your banana republics and the mess your stationed soldiers cause! thanks for your super capitalist ultra democratic exploitation of third world labor! thanks for causing death and conflict world wide! boy compared to you our asses sure are sorry!

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#60 April 11, 2009, 05:08:24 am

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climbtree juss styled on a motherfucker

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