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chomsky doesnt say anything new in that interview. basically its just dissemination of what ahmed rashid wrote in his last book for public consumption heh. obviously the stuff about g20 is new, but his analysis isnt something that you or I could have come up with, and it will be a good while before we can really see what the effects of the conference will be because yeahhh takes a while for this shit to sink in you know

not that I am discrediting his statements or saying that you should disregard it but I've seen you link that article a couple times in the last few days and yeah its not as novel and cutting edge as you think despite its coming from chomsky

i never said it was cutting edge? yes i already knew a lot of what he was saying but it's still an interesting interview.
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it is shocking just how little people in this country understand about that conflict and I think what chomsky has done to bring some of our actions to light is pretty admirable, but aside from that I p much agree with you

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

if they knew........

Also imo America is pretty free. we get fucked when it comes to our obsession with private property and well uh ya know LABOR STRUGGLE tho

this thread sux so far.

But hey Obama said we should hold a summit on disarming! I don't know how much he'll do with that (probably not much) but that is really important and getting that going would be a really awesome thing
Last Edit: April 06, 2009, 10:47:45 pm by Beasley
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Nuclear disarmament will never happen

the USA is a pretty free society, but we have a tendency to be xenophobic as hell and also have a nasty habit of suspending civil liberties during times of war

in terms of civil liberties though we're largely on par with the western europeans nations. we do have silly drug laws etc though but that's a different story.
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Nuclear disarmament will never happen

whatever dude any sort of step in that direction is a good one. i don't think anyone would disagree
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i didn't say it wasn't a good thing! it's just not going to happen.
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It was usually in response to him posing the question to himself "why not leave if the US is so bad?"

He's pretty much correct in that he probably enjoys more freedom here as a highly regarded 'dissident' public intellectual in the US than anywhere else(plus he gots him some tenure at MIT).

Marmot is just 'spergin cause chomsky aint some kinda 'left-communo-(true)internationalist-anti-imperialismoid-marxian-digital-workerist' internet club member(I.E. Crypto-Trot)
what do you want me to say though? how is he "dissident" he just says exactly the same thing as anybody in the liberal left. he doesnt say anything new or particularly interesting about anything why is he regarded as some sort of authority on this issues? it has nothing to do with his academic field so that should not give him cred. even fuckin stalinist dinosaurs like michael motherfuckin parenti are ten times more interesting and original than that douchebag. atleast parenti sticks to his guns chomsky just rambles for a while and then votes democrat.

i aint a cryptotrot you goddamn stalinist
Last Edit: April 06, 2009, 11:25:40 pm by Marmot
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he put dissident in quotes for a reason you dope
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if there werent spergers we wouldnt have quantum mechanics as it is now because dirac was a sperger and he hated poetry because he said it made stuff more complex. so sperger pride suck my egg
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Reducing stockpiles is a pretty mutually beneficial thing for the US and russia. They're a pain in the ass to have just laying around and its not the safest thing in the world.

I don't think anyone in power REALLY wants to get rid of all of them though and all the talk of disarmament is just fluff in the wake of the G20.
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what do you want me to say though?

Lol exactly what you just did.

Gotcha!

*keep trollin trollin trollin*
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troll'd like a dickslap on my face ya motherfucker
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Why do we need those many nukes anyway unless we like literally wanted to end the world
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well the theory is if we get rid of ours but they dont get rid of theirs...

it's dumb.
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While on the topic of gay marriage, you guys can't miss this mini-speech made by Iowa State Senator Majority Leader, Mike Gronstal, when prompted to co-sign a movement to Amend their constitution to ban gay marriage.

Very powerful.
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wow that was pretty good.
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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072466.html
This is disgusting.


Also I voted in my town's election.
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heh it's pretty funny watching the u.s. elbow it's way into pakistan

amiright or WHAT
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:( it's pretty unsurprising and sad.
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yeah watching that press conference yesterday it was pretty obvious pakistan can't handle their insurgents and with afghanistan scaling up it's likely we'll be there next

you know though i really see no end to this MIDDLE EAST war. bombings in iraq have spiked and some are speculating this is because we're leaving. we're stuck basically! and ugh long term we're gonna see mad reprecussions imo.