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Marmot

#221 May 01, 2009, 06:52:13 am

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goddamn benthamites

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#222 May 01, 2009, 06:53:59 am

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Quote from: headphonics on May 01, 2009, 06:43:09 am

btw if you need to assign numbers to HMMM IM NOT REALLY HUNGRY MAYBE I SHOULD GIVE THIS SANDWICH TO THAT STARVING HOMELESS GUY OVER THERE, thats a problem with you and not with the idea that people weigh the consequences of their actions

that has nothing to do with cost/benefit analysis. well atleast for me. i just feel bad for the guy. besides the principles behind where you base your arguments i.e. the homeless guy doesnt deserve to be hungry, has nothing to do with cost benefit analysis. its your opinion

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#223 May 01, 2009, 06:57:51 am

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when your moral choices stem from seeking to do the greatest amount of good yeah you run into gross problems pretty quick once you get above the level of a one on one situation. also NUMBERS you are already using quantification for moral problems when you say something would be better or worse.

ENDS JUSTIFY THE MEANS would always apply using this, if the end BENEFIT is better than the sum of the COSTS then it's the RIGHT THING to do. whether this is stealing a loaf of bread for your starving family or some other horrible final solution.

since when has buying a cheeseburger been a MORAL choice? unless you're talking about spending money that could otherwise be spent on something else and yeah you probably do weigh in supporting the meat industry and globalisation etc?

I USE Q'S INSTEQD OF Q'S

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Marmot

#224 May 01, 2009, 07:00:56 am

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climbtree are youi a christian

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headphonics

#225 May 01, 2009, 07:02:11 am

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tbh marmot i'd never even heard the term until you started throwing it around like you tend to do with most things. im fond of the part where you say i didnt specify what i meant by assigning numbers to happiness when you wont shut up about it and i've only said that i don't think that's an appropriate assessment of what i'm saying. i don't know what utilitarianism is; i don't even care! despite you and ninjapirate's concerns about B....BUT WHAT IF A BABY NEEDS TO BE RAPED etc etc, i think this is an alright and minimally arbitrary (it's still arbitrary in that ya its my opinion that he probably shouldnt go hungry and there are no SPECIFIC NUMBERS that weigh into things but again, since this was initially comparing two methods of reaching a decision, degrees apply) way to figure out if you should be doing something that might be questionable. at least until you turn into a gigantic faggot and start wondering whether maybe........the homeless guy deserves to be hungry. go talk shit about how women shouldn't do science or something

i mean if you got a better way lets hear it brah but sorry climbtree im gonna keep doing this instead of just doing what the bible told me, thanks for the suggestion though

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#226 May 01, 2009, 07:02:24 am

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Quote from: climbtree on May 01, 2009, 06:57:51 am

ENDS JUSTIFY THE MEANS would always apply using this, if the end BENEFIT is better than the sum of the COSTS then it's the RIGHT THING to do. whether this is stealing a loaf of bread for your starving family or some other horrible final solution.

depends on your chaotic/lawful alignment really.

keep posting...

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Marmot

#227 May 01, 2009, 07:08:02 am

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Quote from: headphonics on May 01, 2009, 07:02:11 am

tbh marmot i'd never even heard the term until you started throwing it around like you tend to do with most things. im fond of the part where you say i didnt specify what i meant by assigning numbers to happiness when you wont shut up about it and i've only said that i don't think that's an appropriate assessment of what i'm saying. i don't know what utilitarianism is; i don't even care! despite you and ninjapirate's concerns about B....BUT WHAT IF A BABY NEEDS TO BE RAPED etc etc, i think this is an alright and minimally arbitrary (it's still arbitrary in that ya its my opinion that he probably shouldnt go hungry and there are no SPECIFIC NUMBERS that weigh into things but again, since this was initially comparing two methods of reaching a decision, degrees apply) way to figure out if you should be doing something that might be questionable. at least until you turn into a gigantic faggot and start wondering whether maybe........the homeless guy deserves to be hungry. go talk shit about how women shouldn't do science or something

i mean if you got a better way lets hear it brah but sorry climbtree im gonna keep doing this instead of just doing what the bible told me, thanks for the suggestion though

there are a lot of people who believe homeless people deserve to be in the state they are. i mean in my opinion they are awful but i dont go making huge frameworks of nothing for my moral decisions and claiming i am using..............reason. its pretty arrogant.

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Marmot

#228 May 01, 2009, 07:08:17 am

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also you learn what utilitarianism is in highschool lol

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Marmot

#229 May 01, 2009, 07:08:50 am

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oh thats right instead of paying attention you broke that girls favorite pencil........

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#230 May 01, 2009, 07:11:00 am

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hahaha, that was eighth grade actually! no wait it was seventh. also nah they never mentioned dick about it in my high school. i went to a really poor one though; maybe that's why.

marmot perhapes you can teach me how to . . . be more humble??? nah i don't think it's very arrogant that i said i have a loose process for figuring out if i should do something if i am IN DOUBT. especially when this is probably how a lot of people do it

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#231 May 01, 2009, 07:12:23 am

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Quote from: headphonics on May 01, 2009, 07:11:00 am

hahaha, that was eighth grade actually! no wait it was seventh. also nah they never mentioned dick about it in my high school. i went to a really poor one though; maybe that's why.

marmot perhapes you can teach me how to . . . be more humble??? nah i don't think it's very arrogant that i said i have a loose process for figuring out if i should do something if i am IN DOUBT. especially when this is probably how a lot of people do it

no but you shout at religious folks saying their beliefs are arbitrary and hypocritical....................................

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#232 May 01, 2009, 07:12:55 am

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the irony of the kid from some poor place in mexico scoffing at the rich american's education is kinda good tho

but i mean i don't give a shit about this kind of thing even a little bit. i think the real arrogance is you pulling some condescending shit because i did not RECEIVE THE SAME EDUCATION. maybe you can go to the bronx and make fun of kids' sat scores too

yeah and that's all true. what's your point. i don't even understand what youre saying

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#233 May 01, 2009, 07:13:07 am

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Quote from: headphonics on May 01, 2009, 07:11:00 am

hahaha, that was eighth grade actually! no wait it was seventh. also nah they never mentioned dick about it in my high school. i went to a really poor one though; maybe that's why.

marmot perhapes you can teach me how to . . . be more humble??? nah i don't think it's very arrogant that i said i have a loose process for figuring out if i should do something if i am IN DOUBT. especially when this is probably how a lot of people do it

im sure you had a highschool shitty philosophy clas.s in all hs philosophy classes they talk about bentham and shit

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#234 May 01, 2009, 07:14:18 am

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lol yeah man we had a philosophy class. all high schools have philosophy classes. you're an idiot

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#235 May 01, 2009, 07:14:39 am

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Quote from: headphonics on May 01, 2009, 07:12:55 am

the irony of the kid from some poor place in mexico scoffing at the rich american's education is kinda good tho

but i mean i don't give a shit about this kind of thing even a little bit. i think the real arrogance is you pulling some condescending shit because i did not RECEIVE THE SAME EDUCATION. maybe you can go to the bronx and make fun of kids' sat scores too

im sorry. from now on i am gonna assume some kid who burns time in gw cant....................read

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#236 May 01, 2009, 07:14:57 am

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Quote from: headphonics on May 01, 2009, 07:14:18 am

lol yeah man we had a philosophy class. all high schools have philosophy classes. you're an idiot

my public school had one......

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#237 May 01, 2009, 07:16:32 am

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i didnt say so but it really is fantastic that rone's music is in a tom green movie

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Marmot

#238 May 01, 2009, 07:17:27 am

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headie broke down

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#239 May 01, 2009, 07:18:02 am

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im sorry headie ~ marmot

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#240 May 01, 2009, 07:20:16 am

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nah i'm just done with this. also it's a lot of posts to make. we've gotten really far off the initial argument and ehhh you know it stops being even a little bit entertaining after a while. when i am arguing with you about why my high school was too broke to throw in a bunch of worthless electives, it's . . . it's time to call it.

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