I've been here since 02. I had another account (the SN was Dart64), but everytime I tried to login w/it, it wouldn't let me, so oh well. I originally came here in 02 for the RPG Making. I was also part of RPG Wolfpack at the time, before it died out. I was also big on RPG2kNet. I'm still here for the game making, but it's not as big on my part anymore due to a general lack of time and lack of interest.

I was under the impression that nobody cared about small town America, anyway.

1. I also agree that McCain probably has a strong chance at winning the race. America just seems more Republican right now.

2. That said, I know that America wants an aggresive president

1. Who the fuck wants a Republican president post the Bush era?

2. Sources. I'm always hearing, "Bring the troops home," and all this other BS that's against the war, but Americans want a Republican president, who would do the exact opposite?

I votes for teh Wii.

You are on you.

This shit is really fucking stupid. Game consoles should play games, and that's it. Leave everything as it is/was. Versatility is overrated.

lolol

Have someone lock it then, idc.

1.) Gaming cannot get any better than it currently is. In fact, it will get worse.
Hmm, I don't really agree with this. With better technology & more power comes better opportunities to make more advanced gameplay concepts & to fresh out & show story ideas better. As graphics reach their peak (or the point when there's no reason to go any further) gameplay & story will start to become more important as these are areas with infinite expandablility.

2.) Gaming will not see another generation that was as influential as the N64/PS1 generation.
Well since it was the introduction of 3D to the mainstream that lead to that generation's influentiality I'll say that it's possible that there will be another just as influential generation when a new major overall innovation such as holographic gaming hits.

3.) Graphics are now the mainstream concern, meaning that the games will sell even if they have an hour of atrocious gameplay and terrible controls (as long as it looks good).
Well I've never bought a game just because I thought it was pretty & while it's commonly said that alot of people do I'm not sure if that's true or that it's ever been true. I mean off the top of my head I really can't name one game that sold well simply because of its graphics. Usually the people that bought & loved the game have their reasons for loving it (usually with graphics just being one reason if a reason at all) & the people who hate the game will claim that the people who love the game do so simply because it's gorgeous.

Points taken/your avatar is amazing.

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Where all your arguments fail, is...it's your opinion.

I'm buying the Wii, because I have always loved Nintendo games. I dont care if not many games are coming out soon, because I will have Mario Galaxy, and Brawl to play. PLUS, I'll just download some classic games.

Now, this thread was made for finding a Wii, and I think that i'm pretty close to getting one now. Thank you for your input!

 

The bolded is exactly what I thought before getting a Wii. Drop those ideas, now, before it's too late.

I was on the Wii hype-train since the motion sensor shit and the idea of playing Zelda by swinging the remote as your sword were announced, but couldn't find one until this past November. Guess where it is? Gone. Know why? I'll explain.

I bought:

The Console (Wii Sports, Controller, Nunchuk, etc. Paid $350 + ridiculous $50 for shipping from Maryland to Pennsylvania)
The Classic Controller
An Extra Remote and Nunchuk
Twilight Princess
Galaxy
Super Paper Mario
Corruption
Battalion Wars II
Resident Evil 4

Rechargable Batteries for the Remotes

Paper Mario
Super Mario 64
Ocarina of Time
Wave Race 64
Yoshi's Story
Mario Kart 64
Star Fox 64

Luigi's Mansion
Super Mario Sunshine
Pikmin
Megaman X Collection

Gamecube Controller
Gamecube Memory Card

I played through Mansion, Sunshine, Pikmin, Paper Mario, Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Star Fox 64, Corruption, BWII, and Resi4.

Twilight Princess seems like an incredibly hyped up sub-par Zelda game. The remote swinging can be done via the quickest jerk motion and he swings the sword. Between the nunchuk being the nunchuk and the remote being a huge fucking unrealistic gimmick, I said fuck this after the Forest Temple. I'd highly prefer the Gamecube Controller over this garbage when playing a Zelda game.

Super Mario Galaxy is IMO worse than Sunshine. The gravity in certain areas and the extreme linearness/easiness that is Galaxy are complete turn offs. Boss battles are yet again for five year olds (quite typical of Mario). Movement is clunky and the Wii Remote basically has no function outside of menus and collecting the star pieces of shit. Not to mention, it takes maybe a couple minutes to navigate through a course and get a star. How much gameplay is ACTUALLY there if it only takes you a few minutes to get each of the 120 stars? Why would I continue on to play as Luigi after getting all 120 stars as Mario? Didn't the gameplay get repetitive enough by now? Yet again, another situation where any player with common sense would say, "Give me my regular controller back!"

I played up through the second world of Super Paper Mario. Not only did they rape the ONLY RPG to ever hit Nintendo consoles consistently, but they turned it into an even more repetitive Super Mario Bros. clone. Aren't there enough of those already? Can't I get my amazing RPG experience back over the nonsense that is "Hey, change to 3D mode when it's obvious and you'll get through!" Guess not.

Virtual Console games don't last at all. You won't find more than maybe two or three games on the VC PERIOD that have any amount of gameplay to them (SM64, Paper Mario 64, OoT) and you have to wait until it's convienient for Nintendo to release something other than janky Genesis games like "Cybernator." What the fuck is "Cybernator"? Not to mention, if I want emulation, I can go get any of the games on their list PLUS whatever they don't have and run them on my PC for free. Why again, is the VC good, let alone worth it?

On top of all this bullshit that I've already explained, the only other games are generic compilations of mini-games or plain movie games, with the occasional decent first party game (Brawl, Kart), but those are released once in a blue moon and I can honestly and confidently say that anything else that's released that is, holy shit, not a movie game or mini-game compilation, is either based on some random Disney shit OR is a port from PS2 with supposed "additional content."

Wii Sports is the only game that I actually went back to and played, because it's realistic and is enjoyable even while by yourself. I can't say the same for anything else out for the Wii right now.

I loved Nintendo. NES, SNES, and 64 were amazing. Gamecube took them down slightly, and even though the Wii is making them financially fit atm, I can honestly say they're taking yet another step in the wrong direction, as far as software is concerned.

I got rid of my Wii because it has no future as far as GOOD third party support and/or decent software goes. Sorry to break it to you.

I agree that my views may or may not be nostalgia, but I can play basically any notable game from that generation now and enjoy it much better than any game in the current generation. That applies to games in the N64/PS1 generation that I haven't played, too. Creativity and basically anything outside of shooting games are at an all-time low and will only continue to decline.

I didn't say you did...

But what games do you specifically like on PSOne and N64?

I do admit my favourite game is a on Playstation. 'Jade Cocoon'...
But some of the other games that were released back then just do not hold my interest anymore, such as Kula World. (Not sure if that's the exact name. The one with a ball)

My favorites have to be Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Legend of Legaia, Brave Fencer Musashi, and several other RPGs that were not continued past that gen/other gen defining series' such as Bandicoot, Spyro, Gex, etc.

I think you are right and wrong in some aspects. Gaming has a long way to go yet, and I mean a LONG way to go. You said, "Gaming cannot get any better than it currently is. In fact, it will get worse," and I couldn't possibly disagree more. I can just sit here and come up with AMAZING games that don't exist due to technological limitations (lack of powerful enough servers, AI not smart enough yet, etc). I also think you are downplaying the importance of graphics and ignoring the fact that we HAVE had some great games already this generation - there's plenty more to come. The increase in power on these gaming machines is allowing us to experience more complex games than ever before.

Look at games like Crysis, Bioshock, Devil May Cry 4, Spore... none of these experiences would have been even remotely possible on the N64 or PS1.

Probably. What I mean't by "In fact, it will get worse," is that the genres that were developed in the N64/PS1 generation have been basically beaten to death if not in the current generation, in future generations. The N64/PS1 generation by itself puts out an experience of "freshness" that while in itself seems like a contradiction because the games are very old, still explains the experience because the games were developed at the time where the genres were just being formed and there was no real redundancy. I do agree that Bioshock for one gave an excellent gameplay experience, but I'm generalizing the game libraries based on the majority of said library at this current moment. Also, as I said, I believe that the PS1/N64 gen was the first step in the direction of 3D gaming. It was not even thought of as far as consoles go at the time of the SNES/Genesis gen (I'm not a buff on the history of computer gaming, so I'm just assuming that they were at the level of 3D graphics at the point of SNES/Genesis). I also never mentioned that people should stay in the N64/PS1 generation, I am merely stating that this generation was the best as far as the quality of games and any other factors you could even consider go, and that I really don't think any certain generation of gaming will get it right as many times as the N64/PS1 generation did.

Lainge: Oblivion is not a bad game. Nowhere in my original post did I directly single out Oblivion and say it was a bad game, nor do I think so. Also, the majority of the games that you call "new" and/or "excellent" can be looked upon as terrible shortly down the road. Excellence is not something a game retains unless it really, really deserves it and I doubt that more than a handful so far this generation deserve any type of mention of "excellence". Also, I've owned a 360 for over a year and a half (make that 3 360s), and I've had a Wii for about 5 months.

It's a good thing you kept reiterating that this is all just your opinion. I might've taken issues otherwise!

I just would like to see if people agree with me on this. It may be extreme in some cases, but at least some of my points are at least somewhat valid.

Is the best generation gaming has ever seen, without counting the accomplishments of the first generation.

In my opinion, the gaming of today blows hardcore. The PS3 and 360 have a few key games each that focus mainly on online play, which I view as flawed (I view these as flawed because they are basically forcing you to pay for online play regardless of whether or not you want it, because that's where all the features are. I know that PS3's online is free, but you are not at any time guaranteed a good quality online game unless you are actually shelling out money for said online service). The Wii tries to promote gameplay, but ends up lacking when compared to the Nintendo 64/Playstation One generation, imo. I've owned one. Nothing besides Galaxy and Twilight Princess have aroused my interest. I beat both of them and did not feel the want nor need to go back and play through either of them that I have had for years when it comes to Super Mario 64 and The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. Not to mention the Wii lacks capable specs, the 360 breaks down every time a full moon passes around, and the PS3 doesn't seem promising at all (lack of GOOD exclusives so far and lack of GOOD exclusives in the future really prey upon it).

This is strictly my opinion, but I will back it up with some fact.

1.) The Nintendo 64/Playstation One generation was the first era of 3D gaming. It's basically the median between the "ancient" generations of NES and SNES/Genesis respectively, and the current generation which is run completely on either cheap gimmicks or complete graphic-based/advertised hype.

2.) Said era introduced the first games of their kind, creating a gaming landmark.

3.) Gameplay was heavily favored in basically any game you could pick up and play from this generation. Not many people were worried about graphics at this point because it was just the first step towards mainstream 3D gaming. It was all about the gameplay at this point in the history of gaming; now it's nothing but making sure something looks good.

As I said, this is just my opinion, but I think that:

1.) Gaming cannot get any better than it currently is. In fact, it will get worse.

2.) Gaming will not see another generation that was as influential as the N64/PS1 generation.

3.) Graphics are now the mainstream concern, meaning that the games will sell even if they have an hour of atrocious gameplay and terrible controls (as long as it looks good).

My question is, do you agree or disagree with any points made here, or the general idea that the N64/PS1 generation was indeed the best gaming generation? Back up with your statements with your own opinion and/or good reasoning/facts; I want to get an entire debate rolling out of this topic.

Serious question:

I want to go into the FBI, CIA, or a similar group. Would a simple Bachelor's in Criminal Justice plus other credentials work, or would I be better off going into a branch of the military as intel (cred wise)?

Anyway, if I go with the first option, I'm going to Penn State just because.

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I just bought a Wii off of eBay, and as soon as it comes in, this is one of the first games I'm going to buy. Has anyone gotten it yet? If so, good, bad?

This looks absolutely terrible.

^ QFT.

I don't mind XP myself, so I don't think I'd switch to psuedo-95.

On topic, hacks.

Off topic, my pc is shit, and I bought Legaia recently =[

Depends on the anime. Dragonball Z, for example, I'd much rather the Funimation dubs, rather than the original Japanese subbed episodes, only because I'm not that fond of any of the Japanese voices in DBZ. When it comes to other things like Bleach, I don't really find a difference between dubbed and subbed episodes.