Topic: I know this is only going to strengthen the hate for fangame makers, but what the fuck ever (Read 2812 times)

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No wait you haven't tell me your favorite FF character...

ahahaha this is the best
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No wait you haven't tell me your favorite FF character...

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Oh no one person made fun of me

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And I'm the immature one
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So by removing two words from the title, it suddenly doesn't automatically suck.
Think of it this way: does adding those two words make your game any better?

Also for the record I was "attacking" you  (i admit, i turned up the gas on that burn; it was ruthless (i think i even said "ass")), but only for being a dick when you responded sarcastically with "well play music over it if it bores you". How about you shove your boring game up your ass? If the music hasn't been composed yet, you um... maybe could have said that. If you want mature responses then don't be immature.

Also please respond to this:
Think of it this way: does adding those two words make your game any better?
Last Edit: November 26, 2009, 08:49:23 am by goldenratio
yes coulombs are "germaine", did you learn that word at talk like a dick school?
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halo i play your gam an i thikn it great ! i luv final fanasy wil yo have aireship ?
yes coulombs are "germaine", did you learn that word at talk like a dick school?
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Here's your God damn music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nty0riqSOs

First, learn to embed vids, for example:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj1izHAUuwI[/youtube]

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well, that was quite a hilarious read, thanks GW! :fogetcool:
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First, learn to embed vids, for example:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj1izHAUuwI[/youtube]


Not premium members can't dot that.
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he should buy premium then
then he should buy it for you
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Also please respond to this:
Think of it this way: does adding those two words make your game any better?

It's a Final Fantasy fan-game, it has similar themes and features that are commonly found in said franchise.
No, calling it Final Fantasy will NOT make it better, however, it addresses the project as a fan-game.
Furthermore, just because he's "hiding" under a licensed franchise does not mean he isn't putting
forth any effort into making this game. He wants to disprove people when they say, "Final Fantasy fangames
suck and they're completely unoriginal."

Did he overreact to the criticism... yes. Did you guys overreact to the title and the lack of music (which I had
already taken the blame for since I'm the composer)... yes. But calling him a child really makes some of you
seem like hypocrites, in a sense. I mean, you're not necessarily doing anything better, aside from certain uses
of curses.

If the music hasn't been composed yet, you um... maybe could have said that.

He did.

Quote from: YouTube
The opening to my game. I'm quite excited. =D

Sorry about the lack of music, my composer *COUGHCOUGHLOWCALORIEPIECOUGH* hasn't been doing JACK SHIT for me. Greedy bastard. And after I saved you from starvation off the streets! :)

Annnnyway, enjoy. And please comment.
Last Edit: November 26, 2009, 04:08:39 pm by sdm42393
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It's a Final Fantasy fan-game, it has similar themes and features that are commonly found in said franchise.
No, calling it Final Fantasy will NOT make it better, however, it addresses the project as a fan-game.
Furthermore, just because he's "hiding" under a licensed franchise does not mean he isn't putting
forth any effort into making this game. He wants to disprove people when they say, "Final Fantasy fangames
suck and they're completely unoriginal."

Similar themes and features commonly found in that franchise?  So if I make a game about overpopulation, should I put Soylent Green in the title?  What you're saying makes no sense.  There is nothing unique about Final Fantasy's themes, and there are a babillion games out there with the same themes and features.  Most of those don't have Final Fantasy in the title.  By putting that in there, you are saying "I can't make my own thing".  Why would you want to disprove the stigma against fangames by making an unrelated game and tacking Final Fantasy in the title?  No, it's that every kiddo wants to make their own Final Fantasy instead of using their little noggins to make something completely original, and by tagging their game as Final Fantasy they can rehash the same old shit by saying "well of course I reused all of this it's Final Fantasy".  There is also a predetermined audience out there, which means less work for their lazy asses because people will play anything with Final Fantasy in the title.  You think it doesn't make any difference?  Then why not remove it from the title to a) set yourself apart a bit and b) prove that you're not getting attention solely based on the words Final Fantasy in your title.  A good game's title makes no difference.  Shadow of the Colossus would be just as good of a game if it had been called Final Fantasy: Shadow of the Colossus, but there's a very good fucking reason why it wasn't called that:  it is it's own thing.  This is the problem in the RPGmaking community, very few people want to make their own thing when they can just remake the same old shit.


You want to prove that your game is good underneath the Final Fantasy title?  Ditch it then.  Otherwise you're just telling the world that your game can't stand on its own two feet.
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I've read most of what's going on, and frankly I'm done caring at this point. There are a lot of games I just don't give any attention to, so it would be hypocritical of me to put my own time and effort into providing an opinion on this game just because the issue of "Maknig a game just like Final Fantasy" has come up. (It would almost be as if him adding those two words are the only thing that made me even notice his game in the first place)

But there is just one thing that he said that I don't get and want clarified. Why the heck would you take anything these people are saying personally?

Here is (in order) absolutely everything the community of GamingWorld could possibly know about you personally at this very moment:
1. You have joined a message board about game making with your very own screen name.
2. You have expressed interest in making a final fantasy fangame.

If you want to take anything earlier in this topic personally, then you openly acknowledge to the people you are arguing against that it is these things that define you as a person. That by attacking them, they are attacking who you are personally.

Do you really want something you can take personally? I think this person who made this topic is posting with a joke account that has the explicit purpose of doing exactly as the topic said by "only strengthening the hate for fan-game makers". As someone that believes in the spirit and purity of fan-inspired gaming, I take the very existence of your account insulting. (Really I can only express these sorts of things to you virtually, but you are free to take personally whatever the hell you want.)
Last Edit: November 26, 2009, 05:14:52 pm by Bat #2
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Sorry but this is no joke account, this guy's been around for quite a while now.  Otherwise I agree with you.
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I didn't seriously think he was a joke account. I just wanted to say something he could take personally.

From my observations it seems like he thrives on that sort of thing, and I felt bad for him so I wanted to do him a favor.
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I actually dont see the problem with these fan games. If you're using FF rips, character edits and maybe even music rips and the game is in the similar spirit, then it make sense for it to be called a fan game. If you get rid of the Final Fantasy in the title, I would just think its a rip off or a clone of FF. So actually a fan game is more honourable. You're not pretending that this shit is original.
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Similar themes and features commonly found in that franchise?  So if I make a game about overpopulation, should I put Soylent Green in the title?  What you're saying makes no sense.  There is nothing unique about Final Fantasy's themes, and there are a babillion games out there with the same themes and features.  Most of those don't have Final Fantasy in the title.  By putting that in there, you are saying "I can't make my own thing".  Why would you want to disprove the stigma against fangames by making an unrelated game and tacking Final Fantasy in the title?  No, it's that every kiddo wants to make their own Final Fantasy instead of using their little noggins to make something completely original, and by tagging their game as Final Fantasy they can rehash the same old shit by saying "well of course I reused all of this it's Final Fantasy".  There is also a predetermined audience out there, which means less work for their lazy asses because people will play anything with Final Fantasy in the title.  You think it doesn't make any difference?  Then why not remove it from the title to a) set yourself apart a bit and b) prove that you're not getting attention solely based on the words Final Fantasy in your title.  A good game's title makes no difference.  Shadow of the Colossus would be just as good of a game if it had been called Final Fantasy: Shadow of the Colossus, but there's a very good fucking reason why it wasn't called that:  it is it's own thing.  This is the problem in the RPGmaking community, very few people want to make their own thing when they can just remake the same old shit.


You want to prove that your game is good underneath the Final Fantasy title?  Ditch it then.  Otherwise you're just telling the world that your game can't stand on its own two feet.

Let me begin by stating I'm not the creator of this game, just the composer...  ​

Back to your post, your counterargument doesn't seem to make much sense. I think you failed to understand what I meant (or maybe it was poor wording on my behalf) when I said "similar themes" (perhaps I should have said staples... such as moogles, chocobos, crystals, etc.). For that reason it's under the Final Fantasy name, not because he's afraid the game couldn't "stand on its own two feet." And your pretty much contradicting your whole issue with this game (not the maker, mind you) by saying "a good game's title makes no difference." If that's true, then why are you making such a big deal of it?
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And I'm the immature one

It's called a sence of humour.  You are welcome on these forums and I hope you stay. Just make a better topic next time. Get a demo out and i'll play and let you know what I think.