Well, it's all over! It's a wrap on the last season of tim and eric! They're moving on now to a billion dollar movie produced by will ferrell. It's a real man's game now, it's the big leagues.

Talk about tim and eric and the whole gang in general but I'm just going to talk a little about season 5 first.


I didn't love it so much! There were definitely good parts, some of the funniest stuff from this season was from people and places I thought I had either gotten tired of or never really liked (like the zach galifinakis little dancing man trailer was hilarious), and the old gang of david liebe hart, richard dunn and james quall done the trick like always. Tim and Eric really irritated me sometimes though this season. I think it was the focus of the show - it WAS darker, yeah, and I don't mind that I like it when it turns dark, but it wasn't so much dark as it was meaningless and ugly sometimes. I don't know if it was their intention to make an uglier and more off point kind of awesome show this season, but I really can't think of any particularly good reason for making the show that way.

The episode plots were so fucking bad! It was all tim and eric talking directly to the camera and having some gross without anything behind it event happen (lame puberty stuff, necklace made of dead animals, fucking 'man milk'  was such a terrible way to end the show). Their back and forth was predictable because it was the exact same set up every week this time. In past seasons they had a different kind of style to it every week. Not just 'hi welcome to awesome show. hey tim, did i mention my penis has a big wart on it?' 'oh really? let's eat it.'. And this takes up like half of the episode.

The sketches alot of the time were still good. Some ones I remember as being really good were h'amb, cinco sleep watcher, little dancing man, quall of duty, and probably alot of others I liked just fine! Some of the cinco products this year were terrible, like the diarrhea opener which was a total miss for me, and some of the sketches were just a waste. Like the morning meditations/afternoon review for women bits. it was funny the first time but it is the exact same joke every tme and it's such a kind of in your face like 'HEY YOU WHO WATCH THIS. YOU'RE STUPID HAHAHA' kind of thing which just comes off as arrogant and mean.

And another thing - a couple of times I got more of the impression that we were supposed to be exploiting the people they got on the show (like that muscle woman mother thing? that was horrible), rather than it just being light hearted wacky stuff.

I didn't like alot of their attitude this year. I watch parts from season 4, which I think is probably my favourite one, and it never felt mean spirited, you know? maybe here and there but not like season 5.

It's like they were so bent on deconstructing the show and the dumber aspects of the following they had built up that they totally killed the warmth and fun of alot of the show. I don't want to see richard dunn act like a paedophile, you know? I don't want david liebe hart saying whore!

it felt like the show wanted me to hate it sometimes. i liked some episodes better watching them the second time but i dunno...i didn't feel like i was totally on board this season, which is new.

I'm pretty glad it's over, if this is where they feel like taking it all these days. I used to think tim and eric were the funniest guys around and, really, there isn't much better than this but that is not saying much! They are off to do more commercials, music videos for shitty bands and a movie with will ferrell now so I don't know what is going on with them but I dunno if I am exactly excited. I'll check it all out though.

i disagree

man milk was a great ep and a pretty good way to end the show. I guess the whole man-milk concept itself wasn't funny but I don't think it's supposed to be funny on its own, just weird and gross. it's what they did with it that was successful. and a lot of the sketches inbetween were really good too

little dancing man had its moments but I expected more from the sketch. that episode was mostly good because of the main plot, the two songs and little danson man I think. I know lots pf people loved quall and order but I just thought it was kinda forced or something, idk less successful than the rest of their parodies thoughout the season. I didn't like the muscle lady sketch either, but I think it was just meant to be uncomfortable and awkward rather than something mean-spirited. I really don't think this woman was being exploited or that she didn't understand the sketch

season 5 wasn't as good as I had hoped, going by where season 4 seemed to be leading. I can't blame them for wanting to try something different part of the time but it really didn't turn out that great. still season cinco had a lot of the show's best sketches, like h'amb, and it was pretty entertaining for the most part I think. I don't agree with judging them by their failures, because at least they're trying something and it's not like their failed sketches are awful, give a bad message, or dominate the show. I think it was a really successful show overall and at the moment I can't think of any sketch shows that are nearly as good, besides limmy's show.

actually yeah the style of the tairy greene machine episode was really good, so not all of the plots were boring. it was taken right from those windows launch party videos which i dunno if you guys have seen but here is one they are good:


makes me want to throw a party!

alot of this season felt like a step back or some kind of huge step to the side. i mean i can see what you are saying earl...i don't think it was a bad season, of course it's still the best sketch show around but there was just something off about alot of this season. something dumb, even!

I guess the whole man-milk concept itself wasn't funny but I don't think it's supposed to be funny on its own, just weird and gross.

i always liked the show better when it went for something different than weird and gross. i don't mind gross, and i usually like weird, but i was expecting alot more out of the final episode than tim and eric having swollen nipples. like, if someone were to say that the tim and eric are dumb and waste all their time with stupid shit, i can't really defend them because it is true. they had a 20 minute episode to do whatever they liked with, they could have done something alot more clever and just entertaining even than the man milk thing. like parts of the episode even feel dumb and bordering into the usual comedy shit. i'd be embarassed to recommend people things like man milk and 'cinco helps your friends band girls in your dorm!'. it's not that it is so terrible that i want to turn it off, it's just that i was totally not along for the ride with alot of the episodes this season. maybe i'll change my mind about some things later on.

it's like they weren't trying to be funny or smart and just wanted to make you uncomfortable while watching it, and i was uncomfortable, but not because they were making really weird sketches, only because i was expecting alot more than this and was feeling a little embarassed about hyping this stuff up so much in my mind.

i'm being really negative so far, but i did actually enjoy alot of this season! i'll talk about what was good some soon.

actually i am basically saying i am disappointed cos they didn't do what I wanted them to do. i don't know why my reflex is to focus on the bad with tim and eric...i think i turned a little sour on them because of eric wareheim's music videos and stuff.

anyway, it was a great show overall for sure!!!

I see what you're saying, I and think that's why a lot of people were disappointed with season cinco early on

I like a couple of eric's music videos and I wouldn't call major lazer a bad band

what I liked about man milk is that besides the whole nipple thing it was just like lifetime original movie christmas special stuff. also I liked koi a lot, he makes a natural milkman. I liked the privacy helmet too besides the bang chicks in your dorm part which felt like it was catering to the typical adult swim crowd even though it's supposed to be another dumb cinco slogan

and yeah I saw a video like that before. I don't think michaelsoft was the only one to do it but t&e sure hit the nail on the head with that one. especially with eric's unrelated slit palms opener and the archetypal guests walking in. actually it's kind of like those dinner and a movie shows

I hope they die.

come join me on the tim and eric is not so great bandwagon, my brothers

I'm looking forward to the Dr. Brule spinoff they have airing next week... 

wow, i didn't know this was getting made. i got kinda tired of awesome show, but steve brule is an excellent character.

it kinda sounds like it'll basically be steve brule's awesome show, which is a pretty neat idea. i felt like awesome show was a good general premise but had gotten pretty stale over the years. maybe this will be different?

this apparently: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCl5uyn5K7k

pretty eye-catching commercials I guess but not that funny or anything

they also apparently did that boost mobile shuffle commercial that I didn't really like

yeah i don't like the commercials and hey what the fuck are they doing making commercials anyway? this is one of the things that made me go a little sour on them.

i'm not challenging you but really what do they owe to you or any of their fanbase to not try to make money and not try to further their careers?

it's hard to see how doing commercials really furthers their career, though. i mean yeah, i obviously don't know their situation or why they chose to do it, but doing commercials is generally a SELLOUT sort of thing to do and not really the kind of thing creative people should really feel inspired to do if they can avoid it. it's using their creativity for a genuinely lame or unproductive cause. kinda makes them look like they don't really take a significant amount of pride in what they do and are a bit more concerned with the money end of it then any sort of artistic integrity they might have.

i don't think anybody really makes(or is making) a supremely big deal about this, since it isn't that big of a deal, it just generally reflects somewhat poorly on them. they don't appear to be starving at the moment and are having fairly successful careers, so this isn't exactly like orson welles not finding any decent work at all and kinda needing to do commercial work to stay afloat, especially considering how visibly halfheartedly welles took the responsibilities of doing commercials. for a long while i've kinda regarded tim and eric as not too serious about what they do, and them doing commercials kinda fortifies that notion. i'm pretty sure everybody in the creative business is at least peripherally aware that doing commercials is regarded as a crappy thing to do either willingly or by choice, so their choosing to do it amidst a strong point in their career probably shows that they don't really have much desire to be taken seriously, or perhaps have sufficient disrespect for the intelligence of their audience to think that they wouldn't really care. i find it kinda hard to side with a creative person that eagerly allies itself with some mega corporation's advertising campaign.