I am even more confused now about some people vehemently opposing the creation of this website than I was before, so I don't really know what to respond to.

Nah I am referring to earlchip, Alec or Marge or whoever it is that is getting mad about this. I mean we are all 20-something year old oldbies on a pretty much dead Rm2k site. I have a hard time seeing how anyone could get mad about a new website that is being created under completely benign intentions. I am not saying DON'T CARE but jesus, if you have any objections, keep them short and concise for the sake of discussion so we can at least understand your arguments. A bunch of inane walls of text aren't going to do anyone any good.

I don't want this topic to sidetrack more than it already has, so what is the problem exactly? Do you want us to develop a new version of GW instead of a separate entity? Do you want us to completely scrap the idea and let GW be the way it is because it is "perfect"? Or do you WANT a new site but you want someone else to make it? Are we lying because we are claiming Bart is going to shut the site down? Or is it that you want us to shut down GW because it is lost anyway? You are throwing so many vague opinions at us that there's no real chance for us to give you a good answer. Plus, chances are that the answers we have given will still apply:

1. It's a completely separate site. It's not going to be a new version of GW in more than that it is a successor in spirit and run by GWers, so it's obviously going to be different in a lot of ways, but probably not different enough to stop GWers from enjoying their stay there.
2. GW is probably still going to be here for some time after the site has been created.
3. If you don't want the site to be focused on game development, you're free to make a site of your own that isn't. Nobody is stopping you. You could also visit Tomatoland and whatever other sites there are that originally spawned from GW. Nobody is stopping you.

I'm not really opposed to the changes but I can tell you why I am a little frustrated that it's the direction you are going with it. I always thought the site was gearing itself more towards a general creativity platform. The mainsite would be a place for aspiring film makers, writers, musiscans, game makers, etc to show their shit while the staff's responsibility would be tracking down such content from nonmembers and show casing it (and maybe drawing in these nonmembers in the process). Or maybe they'd just submit tutorials, interviews and resources which can be used in projects, I dunno. But the point is it'd be like gaming world where it had both final products and the tools for making stuff. except it'd be beyond just games. The current direction though, maybe I've misunderstood, sounds like it's just games. I know the news section is supposed to reflect the community/forums but it's like it's a second thought to gaming. And if you're someone who's interest in game making has dwindled or never existed, and you've been sticking around, it really is kinda of a disappointment. Jamie's one of our consistently most creative members, a fucking reason to hang around, does he even do games anymore? The legion and faust types abandoned this place and Jamie types have stuck it out. Yet the site is being made for the former group, while it has always seemed to be the direction of this community to be more humor/creativity oriented rather than tied to some specific medium.

And I still have some interest in game making, I'm not dogging that at all. It just seems so limiting. And sorry if some of this has been addressed, I was keeping up but may have missed something.

And Faust, I for one  hope that both GW and "Astrojones" will eventually evolve into democracies- I feel they're superior to dictatorships.

Look at real politics. Shit hardly gets done in a democracy, it's the same here. Dictatorship is the way to go for websites.

Especially considering we all have very strong opinions.

And Faust, I for one  hope that both GW and "Astrojones" will eventually evolve into democracies- I feel they're superior to dictatorships.