Yeah, I'm taking off too. Not for any hateful reasons or anything, it just feels like GW (or SW) has changed an awful lot from the site I used to like coming to. Not saying that this place is bad or anything now, it's still cool and has good people, but the focus is shifting in all sorts of directions and some of them feel odd to me.

Still hope that Salt World takes off though, and I wish you guys the best of luck! Rock on, Drule.

Yeah, I agree totally, for me It started with the move to SMF I really don't like the look of their forums not a huge deal but as gw started to change with the focus moving to indie games, things were starting to grind and I started to feel gw was abit meh and had lost alot of it's individallity. I miss the focus on rpgmaker, the happy zoo, gw dictionary/wiki and the loss of awesome threads/crap shack which hosted some of the funniest threads ever. They were archived though which is something.
 

this seems like a shameless plug for rmn

 
Nope. But damnit! If only I had thought of that I'd have waited a week or so and plugged rmgamearchive when it's done

Still, it wouldn't surprise me to see some of the people who leave come back a couple months from now just to see what's up with the site. There could be some really good stuff going on that will pull them back into the fold.

To be honest  i'm not planning on returning except maybe occasionally to read game dev forum and I have said i'd be involved in the new chain game but aside from that there is little point. Having said that if saltw changes for the better in the long term who knows? I just can't see it returning to what it was and the direction it's going now isn't doing it for me.

 

It's like when you removed GW it made wounds and then you replaced it with SaltWorld it was like you where rubbing salt in to there wounds.

This phenomenon that is happening to this is community really interesting.

It's like those stories of growing up and change, of coping up with the growth and the choices and shifted priorities. Of living in it but realizing that it's technically the same but essentially a very different one.

I think I would be sticking forever until it ultimately die. I'm not sure how long the community we know as gw will be around but it reminds of me and friends missing high school when we stepped into college, everything is just, different. It kinda sucked that we can't go back and do those epic moments again and live the life we had but that's reality and the memories are something to be treasured. When gw was still 'cool' it was cool because it lived on itself, it was a young kid growing and really excited. The current gw in my opinion is a grownup man looking back and trying to relive what was outlived, the effect is jsut inevitable and the only way for the community to stay is to grow and that means change.
I would still say that high school was way better than college and that the old gw may be the best kind of gw there will ever be. It's not the same anymore but it's any person's choice when he'll feel that it's over and it's time to let it go. And slowly we all will, and GW will ultimately die. And we all die and we will remember gw being the dumbest funniest part of our lives.

Amen.

GW's kinda weird because even early on it was like a group of subcommunities hobbled together, and over recent years, it kinda became more clear. And now we've ended up with a pretty elitest crew who look down their noses at the rpgmaker lot, and want GW to be more serious, but at the same time, the rpgmaker peoples have still kinda stayed to an extent, but never really venturing out because they had nothing in common with the others. I kinda feel that those of us in our twenties kinda have this thing where we forget that when we were younger and joined, we didnt care about much other than sexualised rtp charsets and the like, but that ended up sprouting the community we know.
I don't feel that anything has really changed, but something as simple as renaming the site seems to be representative of how the community aspect of the site is the strongest and to be honest, the key part. We kinda think that because we're into socilaist politics, than everybody who isn't is just childish. It's not the case, everybody knows it's not the case, but that seems to be this bizarre perception that people are afraid disproving.
This is kinda a chance for SW to be a better place than GW was, and if there was any time for people to just bury the hatchet, it is now. Post what you want to post, don't get bogged down by what the other aspect of the site will think of you. Enjoy SW and just try to help it and you grow.
Leaving now, after many years does kinda seem silly, and ends up reinforcing that which we all know in reality, is false. All the subcommunities are aspects of the whole, and we're all in this together. We've known each other for ages. It's the membership which makes up a community, and so every member has some degree of power over the way it develops. It can be from something as simple as posting a topic.
So, don't leave, post a topic.

</bridging the gap>

anyone who isn't socialist should be fed into an industrial thresher

Gamew.net or even just Gamecake would be better than Saltw imo too ....

come on dude we've had like five topics about this and there's no way to please everyone.  we took a vote.  we have saltw.  it's DONE let's go with it!!!!

let's have a poll every week and change the name depending on the results, drule i hope your wallet is big enough for a lot of domain names

I saw "last post by Massy2k6" and I thought oh god is massy leaving too. don't you dare.

let's have a poll every week and change the name depending on the results, drule i hope your wallet is big enough for a lot of domain names

Your sarcasm makes me want to rub salt into your Virgina.

but she's from kentucky