What's on your mind 2010 the Next Generation

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Ragnar

#1901 May 17, 2011, 01:41:22 am

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Quote from: Terrorantula on May 16, 2011, 10:29:06 pm

I also just downloaded the Junicode fonts so now I can see runes in web pages.

hahaha I love internet nerd shit like this, and ESPERANTO BLOGS things like that. Are there like Elvish blogs etc.

Quote from: goldenratio on May 16, 2011, 10:23:11 pm

taking piano lessons starting June 1!!! I'm super stoked, ive just been practicing by myself for the past couple days on a keyboard I got from some dude on craigslist. I'm not doing terrible and I'm learning a whole lot about music theory that i never got from playing guitar (tabs are shitty as fuck im pissed at myself for learning music like an idiot). Because I'm practicing solo ATM I'm kind of aimless so I've been doing finger exercises and scales. I'm trying to learn a new scale every other day or so, I've got C, D and E down so far (including minor scales and pentatonic scales). Chromatic scales. Music is fucking awesome.

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actually if someone could analyze my music musically that would be pretty cool

http://djsaint-hubert.bandcamp.com/

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Frisky SKeleton

#1902 May 17, 2011, 06:21:07 am

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Quote from: DietCoke on May 16, 2011, 08:18:35 am

who cares about money dude, you know a lot of stuff now. i'd rather die knowing a lot of things rather than owning a lot of stuff

i live on less than 10k a year, i don't care about 'stuff' very much, i was just using it to measure progress i guess. i'm well behind where i could've been socially and uhhh, fiscally, and now there's only a handful of people i can talk about things i know about with. i don't know what i want anyway so it's all rather moot.

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Farren

#1903 May 17, 2011, 08:21:50 am

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I don't know what I want either really and am lacking in relationships because I been workin' my ass off

just life dude

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Frisky SKeleton

#1904 May 17, 2011, 08:46:42 am

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Quote from: Frisky SKeleton on May 16, 2011, 12:20:58 am

life sucks.

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Carrion Crow

#1905 May 17, 2011, 03:35:30 pm

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This is gonna be a terrible post but it's what's on my mind.

Quote from: Stephen Hawking

"I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when its components fail. There is no heaven or afterlife for broken down computers; that is a fairy story for people who are afraid of the dark."

Saw this in the newspaper yesterday. This is my personal view. I have long referred to people's beliefs as their "programming" in my own mind. Being with someone who was quite religious who went to church highlighted how insecure she was. I guess you do what your parents bring you up to do and mine just let me do whatever. I find people with the churchgoer image quite scary because it doesn't compute. I don't understand how it computes for other people so I can't see it as anything other than a social image. The whole catholicsm thing scares the crap out of me. I am certain that I was manipulated in my relationship by having to maintain a level of "respect" for her views.

I'm free now though so I guess I never have to speak to anyone who is like that. There was some facebook poll "do you believe in god" when they introduced that shitty feature and yes was at 85%. I wonder what the actual figures are. So many people believing is so depressing.

I saw some post on here a few weeks ago knocking athiests for being attention seeking and it made me feel bad for being one. It's not like I would ever say anything about it in real life because you never know who you're going to offend. It makes me feel like I'm on a small island and I'm the only sane person left. I thnk if I do meet someone who isn't a nutcase it will be incredible.

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Vellfire

#1906 May 17, 2011, 03:58:46 pm

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alls i gotta say to that stephen hawking quote is

I love this hobby - stealing your mother's diary
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#1907 May 17, 2011, 04:01:43 pm

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I don't have anyone I see eye to eye with that I can talk to besides my sister. my college friends stink.

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Quote from: ed on May 17, 2011, 03:35:30 pm

This is gonna be a terrible post but it's what's on my mind.

Saw this in the newspaper yesterday. This is my personal view. I have long referred to people's beliefs as their "programming" in my own mind. Being with someone who was quite religious who went to church highlighted how insecure she was. I guess you do what your parents bring you up to do and mine just let me do whatever. I find people with the churchgoer image quite scary because it doesn't compute. I don't understand how it computes for other people so I can't see it as anything other than a social image. The whole catholicsm thing scares the crap out of me. I am certain that I was manipulated in my relationship by having to maintain a level of "respect" for her views.

I'm free now though so I guess I never have to speak to anyone who is like that. There was some facebook poll "do you believe in god" when they introduced that shitty feature and yes was at 85%. I wonder what the actual figures are. So many people believing is so depressing.

I saw some post on here a few weeks ago knocking athiests for being attention seeking and it made me feel bad for being one. It's not like I would ever say anything about it in real life because you never know who you're going to offend. It makes me feel like I'm on a small island and I'm the only sane person left. I thnk if I do meet someone who isn't a nutcase it will be incredible.

I can identify with feeling alone but other than that who gives a shit what other people think? you're more bothered by the things you associate with believing in god or being a christian, and they don't necessarily apply to everyone. in the end it's something personal about them that makes a girl's personality attractive or unattractive, not some remote abstract belief. it's really not something you can worry about. thinking of humans as computers is just as mickey mouse as anything else you're describing btw!

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tuxedo marx

#1908 May 17, 2011, 04:05:59 pm

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all this is is your prejudice

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Carrion Crow

#1909 May 17, 2011, 04:19:50 pm

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Quote from: earlchip on May 17, 2011, 04:01:43 pm

thinking of humans as computers is just as mickey mouse as anything else you're describing btw!

Why?

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goldenratio

#1910 May 17, 2011, 04:31:24 pm

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I think maybe because it's a fairly obvious analogy and doesn't really offer any major insight. Yes brains are like computers and religion is silly but it's not anything majorly profound.

My point of view these days is more like, religion is something that is personal and you shouldn't really judge someone for believing in that sort of stuff, it's only a problem when people start acting arrogant and contradictory, which can happen with ANYBODY, religious or not, that there is a problem. And this isn't a problem with religion per se but rather a problem with people. Basically I feel like even if Religion completely disappeared we'd find something else to latch to and call each other stupid over. Allied Athiest Alliance and so forth.

yes coulombs are "germaine", did you learn that word at talk like a dick school?

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Warped655

#1911 May 17, 2011, 06:48:33 pm

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Quote from: goldenratio on May 17, 2011, 04:31:24 pm

Basically I feel like even if Religion completely disappeared we'd find something else to latch to and call each other stupid over. Allied Athiest Alliance and so forth.

I think this would only be true if there was an alternative to religion and science/atheism as a major belief system for important topics like death, creation, etc. Or of course agnosticism (absence of belief)

but there isn't. (at least not that I know of, that doesn't somehow fit into one of those categories)

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Kaworu

#1912 May 17, 2011, 07:04:21 pm

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one of the faculty heads at my uni has the same accent as kryten. needlyess to say, we have no idea what country he's from!

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Warped655

#1913 May 17, 2011, 07:25:35 pm

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Continuation:
I'm largely agnostic myself BTW.

The problem that I have with the 'human brains are computers' (or any brain for that matter) theory is that would suggest that if we could 'move' someone's mind to a computer that could perfectly replicate the physical attributes of their brain that they'd be able to 'live' in said artificial computer brain. I just don't think that would work.

Same reason I don't believe immortality could be achieved by body/mind replication.

I'm baffled by the idea that stream of consciousness could be made/explained completely through electronic signals... admittedly... I can't understand or fathom how it works at all though so IDK.

I mean if stream of consciousness is that simple, wouldn't that mean the electricity system in your home/computers has some sort of exceptionally simple stream of consciousness? (it obviously isn't)

The idea of a god comes off as largely irrelevant to me as its obvious that such a being is unlikely to have anything we could understand as empathy. or even be 'alive' or 'comprehensible'.

If it exists (possible, not unlikely or likely, it just either exists or doesn't exist) its relatively clear that he does nothing now. Or if it does, it makes it impossible to tell, making him/her/it irrelevant to humanity as a whole.

Based on this, if there is a form of existence after known life. It is unlikely to have been 'constructed' by anything. As in, no Heaven, Hell, Hades, Valhalla, etc. The closest equivalent I could identify it with is 'limbo' only with out the 'punishment' element and that out consciousness's would essentially be like monitors disconnected from any computer. Making us like... blank or something. Arguable whether the rest of what makes consciousness (if there is more to it, and to me its just baffling if there isn't) just 'dissipates', 'falls apart' or what not. ir if it just eternally floats about or something utterly useless unless it has some ability of accidental 'reconnection'.

Unless some other race some how came to understand consciousness to the level where they could some how construct a method of reconnecting 'consciousness' to a mind (or even the same mind).

What I'm saying isn't coming off as gibberish is it?

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Carrion Crow

#1914 May 17, 2011, 07:38:57 pm

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_neural_network <---might wanna read this.

I have studied ANNs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_neural_network) for my degree and it gave some insight into BNNs and changed the way I perceived my thought processes and those of others.

It's a very powerful analogy but hard to grasp from a linear perspective. The associative nature of the brain is what sets it apart. Memory in the brain is distributed, results are determined by weighted signals which change based on experience.

I like your argument. It's similar to the paranoia that people have about being teleported ;D

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#1915 May 17, 2011, 09:49:19 pm

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the "brain is like a computer" analogy is just an analogy and not something you should take literally. when I was 16/17 I did the whole analyzing personal thought processes and those of others thing and it's an awful, destructive waste of time that leads nowhere but down. it is something everyone does on some level, but the only reasonable approach is to stay open-minded and nonjudgmental and not pretend you can easily figure people out like a program or puzzle. get some philosophy nerd in here to talk about how human logic is an illusion that serves the same comforting role as religion

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#1916 May 17, 2011, 10:45:16 pm

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ugh, guys stop being gross. ed, i know you're an engineer and all but lets not try to confirm the 'spergy stereotype.

All that bio-reductionist crap is worse than Jungian psychoanalysis
(maybe not worse in terms of hard science, but I'd get along better with some mystical post-freudian than a cybernetics dweeb who treats people like deep blue and tries to reduce behaviors to algorithms)

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Barack Obama

#1917 May 17, 2011, 10:50:15 pm

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its not nice to make fun of certain things im osrry

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Carrion Crow

#1918 May 17, 2011, 11:57:23 pm

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Pfff you wait till you see my sick obsolete augmentations in 2027. It's gonna be awesome. Then we can all induce autism to get what we want done using out full potential Quantum Thief style.

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Frisky SKeleton

#1919 May 18, 2011, 01:23:54 am

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Quote from: warpped655 on May 17, 2011, 06:48:33 pm

I think this would only be true if there was an alternative to religion and science/atheism as a major belief system for important topics like death, creation, etc. Or of course agnosticism (absence of belief)

but there isn't. (at least not that I know of, that doesn't somehow fit into one of those categories)

really? there's competing theories and refinements for everything. is the universe made of multidimensional vibrating strings or a network of localised gravity loops?

death and creation really aren't very important topics though.

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Farren

#1920 May 18, 2011, 04:31:49 am

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I am the same as an ant. insignificant yet my life is of the upmost importance to me and those that care about me. Yet at the same time I realize I am just an ant and I'll come and go like dust on the wind.

DEUCE: MEETING THE URINE UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL AND REALIZING IT'S JUST LIKE ME AND MY PREJUDICES THIS WHOLE TIME WERE COMPLETELY FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF PTTTTHTHTHH GOD IT'S EVERYWHERE DEUCE: FUCK THIS TASTES LIKE PISS PANTS: WHERE IT SHOULD TASTE LIKE COTTON CANDY OR PICKLES DEUCE: OR AT LEAST LIKE URINE NOT PISS

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