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I'm fat. 220 lb's, about 6 foot. BMI of 30 Technically in the 'obese' category. but on the lower end of that spectrum.

I enjoy fatty foods to much to give them up... Though I'm trying to give up soda which is the real killer for me because I drink WAY too much of it. I imagine I'd lose a LOT of weight if I just cut soda out of my diet. Though I already try as hard as I can to avoid HFCS.

Not much of a sugar fiend outside of sodas and ice cream (which is my usual desert if I have one, not a big pie or cake guy). Though I say this and I have some chocolate and peanut butter treat thing in front of me. :P Though I tried it and it's kind of meh. Think I'll eat the rest later.

Apparently wheat isn't healthy... when was this found out? I mean 100% whole wheat bread is healthier then that bleached and processed white bread right? Because I usually get 100% Wheat bread. I mean is BREAD not healthy? What bread should I be getting?

Another thing for me is that I love bacon, pork, pork ribs, and ham. I know I can't give these up, and just reducing the amount I eat of these would be hard to do because pork and such is fucking delicious. Also love burgers and steak of course. Same with fried chicken. Grilled chicken is too bland unless it was also marinated.

Another thing holding me back is my skill in cooking and the fact that I sort of hate cooking. I get bored. I just want to eat the damn thing and get back to what I was doing. I also have a 'don't waste food' thing ingrained into me because of my dad, reducing the amount of experimentation I do because I don't want to waste food by it screwing up when cooking and the other ingrained bullshit of not letting food on my plate go to waste.

On the healthier side of things. I love most veggies and fruits.

Exercise-wise, I have a 10 minute walk to get to class, and when I do go to eat at a restaurant I walk there, as I don't have a car. I have 2 bikes but I haven't gotten around to fixing them. Unfortunately I spend a LOT of time on computers SITTING. however when I move out of the house I've been living at I'll likely get a adjustable sitting/standing desk which should help. I'm still going to play games and watching online TV sitting down, but work and internet surfing will be done standing.
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yeah mat, the only weight I've been able to gain is in muscle
i think that people are fat mostly because of poor diet.
nutrition is probably the one thing where public opinion differs most from fact. i think that people should start eating according to the paleolithic diet-- high protein, high fat, low carb, no sugar, no grains (man, grain is sooo bad for you; it totally messes up body chemistry). it's amazing what a difference this sort of diet makes to health; it eliminates all diseases of society, like obesity, diabetes, heart disease, cavities, etc... you know, i'm writing a research paper about this for school because i think it's all very interesting. everyone should read about it.
nutrition is so important but so many people don't care about it at all. the people who DO care usually don't actually know anything they're talking about-- dieters restrict calories and avoid fat, destroying their bodies. but they think they're healthy just because they're losing weight. many people have no idea how to monitor their fat percentage or their body functioning.
personally, i have been underweight for most of my life (because of eating disorders). the past couple years i have fluctuated in the normal range, and i was slightly overweight for a little bit. nowadays i'm in the normal range, losing weight because i'm working on switching over to the paleolithic diet (and because i have a better psychological perception of food).
it feels so good to be getting healthy. even though i simply don't have time for exercise, i can improve my health by learning about nutrition. i think everyone should try to be well-informed about this stuff.
anyways, that's what makes people fat.
thanks for posting this. it's a great example of how people care way too much about food and nutrition. paleolithic diet?? humans didn't even exist until the upper paleolithic right

idk how this even sounds like a good idea to you or doc. how many years ago was that? isn't that enough time for evolution to bring about a resistance these abstract "bad things" you mentioned, similar to our resistance to alcohol? how comes it was the human race that changed its diet and became the dominant species, and not the other hominids who remained hunter-gatherers? and how long did these god-like hominids (reeks of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_Man) live, anyway? is their diet really something we want to emulate

look how you've selected this one aspect of paleolithic life that absolutely must be emulated, but everything else is apparently give or take. they were called hunter-gatherers for a reason, they had to actively hunt and gather their food to stay alive. their whole day was spent stalking prey, hunting, traveling on foot. you mention "knowing how to monitor their fat percentage". you think paleolithic people knew anything about that? no, they just needed the high fat content in order to store energy in their bodies: they could go days without meat, or any food at all. yet you propose eating like they did for every meal, even though you don't have time for exercise (bull btw, apparently you have time for animes. if you really don't have time, quit some extracurriculars or drop some worthless AP courses. protein is for muscles and exercise is part of being a living human, much more so than some garbage diet)

really I think stuff like this paints a pretty neat picture of our society. we're always looking some secret that will make our lives easier. that's dumb. if life's a butt it's because we've made it that way, all the stress and obligations and superfluous garbage we have to put up with just to live. it's all market-driven

oh yeah I wanted to make a point about how worrying so much about diet is unhealthy too w/e
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my eating habbits are appauling(rarely eat) but I have weight due to the sheer volume of alcohol I consume.
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I'm fat. 220 lb's, about 6 foot. BMI of 30 Technically in the 'obese' category. but on the lower end of that spectrum.

I enjoy fatty foods to much to give them up... Though I'm trying to give up soda which is the real killer for me because I drink WAY too much of it. I imagine I'd lose a LOT of weight if I just cut soda out of my diet. Though I already try as hard as I can to avoid HFCS.

Not much of a sugar fiend outside of sodas and ice cream (which is my usual desert if I have one, not a big pie or cake guy). Though I say this and I have some chocolate and peanut butter treat thing in front of me. :P Though I tried it and it's kind of meh. Think I'll eat the rest later.

Apparently wheat isn't healthy... when was this found out? I mean 100% whole wheat bread is healthier then that bleached and processed white bread right? Because I usually get 100% Wheat bread. I mean is BREAD not healthy? What bread should I be getting?

Another thing for me is that I love bacon, pork, pork ribs, and ham. I know I can't give these up, and just reducing the amount I eat of these would be hard to do because pork and such is fucking delicious. Also love burgers and steak of course. Same with fried chicken. Grilled chicken is too bland unless it was also marinated.

Another thing holding me back is my skill in cooking and the fact that I sort of hate cooking. I get bored. I just want to eat the damn thing and get back to what I was doing. I also have a 'don't waste food' thing ingrained into me because of my dad, reducing the amount of experimentation I do because I don't want to waste food by it screwing up when cooking and the other ingrained bullshit of not letting food on my plate go to waste.

On the healthier side of things. I love most veggies and fruits.

Exercise-wise, I have a 10 minute walk to get to class, and when I do go to eat at a restaurant I walk there, as I don't have a car. I have 2 bikes but I haven't gotten around to fixing them. Unfortunately I spend a LOT of time on computers SITTING. however when I move out of the house I've been living at I'll likely get a adjustable sitting/standing desk which should help. I'm still going to play games and watching online TV sitting down, but work and internet surfing will be done standing.
I would really recommend getting soda out of your regular diet ASAP. Replace it with water and you'll start to feel so much better! Get one of those big nalgene bottles, and just drink water out of that all day.

Just stick to the basic whole foods categories(legumes, veggies, nuts, whole grains, unprocessed meats) and plan your meals so you set aside time to prepare and eat your food. Don't do the whole JUST SNACKIN' thing all day. You should get more exercise too, but that's true for everyone. Don't try and substitute a standing-desk for actually going outside and doing some running, it's not something you can really go half-way on and expect any change. Once you get out there and start movin' around you'll feel great.
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According to Google I'm about 140 lbs (±64 kg), and I'm 5"11 (181 cm). I remember that about two or so years ago I used to weigh less than 60 kg. I'm far from being fat but I should really get some more exercise.
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Apparently wheat isn't healthy... when was this found out? I mean 100% whole wheat bread is healthier then that bleached and processed white bread right? Because I usually get 100% Wheat bread. I mean is BREAD not healthy? What bread should I be getting?
I wouldn't worry about it

helicopter parents say soda is a killer and that's not true, but it is essentially a candy. drink it as a treat

concerning meats, you could try different kinds of preparation. look into blackening or marinating with stuff like vinegar and cayenne. chicken or turkey sausage is really flavorful and relatively light

could try weight lifting after the 10 minute walk
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I would really recommend getting soda out of your regular diet ASAP. Replace it with water and you'll start to feel so much better! Get one of those big nalgene bottles, and just drink water out of that all day.

Just stick to the basic whole foods categories(legumes, veggies, nuts, whole grains, unprocessed meats) and plan your meals so you set aside time to prepare and eat your food. Don't do the whole JUST SNACKIN' thing all day. You should get more exercise too, but that's true for everyone. Don't try and substitute a standing-desk for actually going outside and doing some running, it's not something you can really go half-way on and expect any change. Once you get out there and start movin' around you'll feel great.
yeah what dietcoke said.
cutting soda to minimum/to a treat and start drinking more water is a good start. besides soda is the killer to teeth and uh you don't want to fuck your teeth to a bad shape! permament pains, cardio and blood vessel problems etc etc. it's never too late for your teeth.

cooking feels like a big, difficult hassle at the beginning (t-the treshold...) but it gets easier and faster pretty quickly. i'm sorry that the fresh vegetables are more expensive in america! but by logic if you cook your food in one go for several days to a whole week then it should pay off? plus it should be more healthier and tastier. equally quick to warm up like fast foods too.

the thing about these changes is that you propably won't miss the old shit once you get into these habits because of HOW GOOD IT FEELS. you propably don't want the old life back. i've had good opportunities to eat a balanced, tasty diet and jesus christ i don't want to get back to bad food and habits no matter what!!! i feel so shitty after eating fast/gross food stuff nowdays. though sometimes when i get candies and soda it actually feels/tastes pretty good/like SOMETHING now.

aa jesus i hope this post doesn't seem like one big conversion effort but seriously: i don't think you need to change or give much, warped, to start to feel BETTER and improve like immidiately eg that soda. or idk taking ice cream only at weekends? healthy life is baby steps like these.
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they were called hunter-gatherers for a reason, they had to actively hunt and gather their food to stay alive. their whole day was spent stalking prey, hunting, traveling on foot.
Actually hunter-gatherers worked (by work I mean got food) an average of 14 or so hours a week (we work an average of 40 for full time) to survive.  The rest of the time was spent doing other things like sitting around fires and telling stories, playing games, making things...BONFIRES lol.
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This is a very familiar discussion lol.
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Actually hunter-gatherers worked (by work I mean got food) an average of 14 or so hours a week (we work an average of 40 for full time) to survive.  The rest of the time was spent doing other things like sitting around fires and telling stories, playing games, making things...BONFIRES lol.
I dunno about 14 hours, but I realize a big kill would last them several days. the point was they were active, I'm not really interested beyond that right now
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I dunno about 14 hours, but I realize a big kill would last them several days. the point was they were active, I'm not really interested beyond that right now
I agree.
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hey uh might as well post in this topic you know those SHAKE WEIGHTS besides looking like you're wanking lol isn't that like the worst possible thing to do at the same time wouldn't it destroy your wrists (like wanking 1000 times a day)
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I put on some weight when I'm drinking a lot over a period, but it's mostly the amount of bullshit food I eat when I'm drunk. Like 3 packs of instant noodles in a night, or stuff like that. Also I sometimes get into habits of eating late otherwise. If I manage to keep away from those kinds of things, I'm okay with weight at least. I've never really been fat or anything but there are some mornings where I'll look at myself and mirror and see how it could get that way.
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I have far too much sex to ever get fat.

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i'm sorry that the fresh vegetables are more expensive in america! but by logic if you cook your food in one go for several days to a whole week then it should pay off?
Vegetables are cheap no matter how you look at it. I refuse to believe that buying vegetables is somehow more expensive than buying ready made or processed food unless you're buying CANS OF SPAM or something.
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well i mean it probably depends on what you're getting.  like it's going to be more expensive to buy the stuff for a salad than buy some bread and processed lunch meat or a frozen dinner.  and any of those options are probably going to be more expensive than just taking two minutes to go to mcdonalds.  at the same time ii don't think that this is at all a valid excuse for the level of obesity a lot of people get to and you can get some pretty healthy stuff if you shop carefully.
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Go to a Farmers marker it's cheap and usually great quality (Fresh, organic, not looking like shit like some at the store).
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