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http://kotaku.com/5744485/the-psp-2-revealed
http://gizmodo.com/5744521/sony-ngp-an-oled+equipped-dual-analog-touch+sensitive-portable-powerhouse

Holy fuck. I want this.

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The PSP2 is finally here. Sony revealed its brand new PlayStation Portable at an event in Tokyo today, giving us our first official look at the PlayStation maker's next bold foray into handheld gaming, the "Next Generation Portable." Here are the first details.      The Hardware Sony confirmed many of the features of the PSP2 that we've already heard in the form of leaks, rumor and speculation. The PSP2 features a high-resolution, touch-sensitive OLED screen that's larger than the original PSP screen, tilt-sensitive SIXAXIS controls, dual analog sticks, front and back-facing cameras, and a touch sensitive back panel.
Sony boasts that the new PlayStation Portable is as powerful as a PlayStation 3. The device features built-in WiFi and 3G wireless connectivity and uses an all-new form of media storage for games—no more UMD.
Here's how Sony describes it: "NGP adopts a new game medium, a small flash memory based card, dedicated for NGP software titles. Taking advantage of the flash memory feature, this innovative card can store the full software titles plus add-on game content or the game save data directly on to the card. By adopting flash memory based card, SCE will be able to provide game cards with higher capacity in the future, allowing developers to store more game data to deliver rich and immersive games."
For now, Sony is officially calling the new PlayStation Portable by its codename, Next Generation Portable or NGP. It will be out this holiday in Japan.
The Full Specs
 
  • CPU: ARM® Cortex™-A9 core (4 core)
  • GPU: SGX543MP4+
  • External Dimensions: Approx. 182.0 x 18.6 x 83.5mm (width x height x depth) (tentative, excludes largest projection)
  • Rear touch pad: Multi touch pad (capacitive type)
  • Cameras: Front camera, Rear camera
  • Sound: Built-in stereo speakers, Built-in microphone
  • Sensors: Six-axis motion sensing system (three-axis gyroscope, three-axis accelerometer), Three-axis electronic compass
  • Location: Built-in GPS, Wi-Fi location service support
  • Keys / Switches: PS button, Power button, Directional buttons (Up/Down/Right/Left), Action buttons (Triangle, Circle, Cross, Square), Shoulder buttons (Right/Left), Right stick, Left stick, START button, SELECT button, Volume buttons
  • Wireless communications: Mobile network connectivity (3G), IEEE 802.11b/g/n (n = 1x1)(Wi-Fi) (Infrastructure mode/Ad-hoc mode), Bluetooth® 2.1+EDR ?A2DP/AVRCP/HSP?
The Games Sony showcased a handful of games alongside the reveal of the new PSP, including new titles Little Deviants, Reality Fighters and Gravity Daze, plus games based on the following PlayStation franchises.
 
  • Uncharted
  • Killzone
  • WipeOut
  • Resistance
  • LittleBigPlanet
  • Hustle Kings
  • Hot Shots Golf
Sony says the new PlayStation Portable will also play PSone games supported via its PlayStation Suite platform and will be backwards compatible with downloadable PSP games. To demonstrate this, Capcom's Jun Takeuchi demoed Monster Hunter Portable 3rd for the PSP on a NGP.
Third parties have shown demonstrations of Yakuza 4 and Metal Gear Solid 4 running on the system, with Activision announcing a Call of Duty for the new PSP.


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The Sony PSP2 has arrived under the codename NGP. It has a nice, big 5-inch OLED touchscreen, dual analog sticks, front/rear cameras, and the most interesting part—a touch-sensitive panel on the back of the device used for control.

 In addition to the above specs, the PSP2/NGP has 3G and GPS, along with wi-fi, and Sony claims this thing is as powerful as a PS3. The 5-inch screen is higher resolution than what's previously been featured in PSP devices (960x544). Kotaku says the screen is a beauty with impressive viewing angles.


UMD is nowhere to be found—which should come as no surprise—and the PSP2 instead opting for a new form of storage. Meanwhile, Sony is putting huge emphasis on social and location-aware gaming.


As for the rear touch-sensitive panel, it takes up roughly the same amount of space as the screen, and responds to more than one finger at a time. In a game demo, it demonstrated how you could use the rear panel to flick beach balls up into the air on the screen. Touch a spot on the rear panel and the screen will respond accordingly in the same area.


The SIXAXIS controls, meanwhile, add motion controls akin to those of smartphones. And for those attached to more traditional methods of gaming, the standard D-Pad and four-button cross layout are also there (with L/R shoulder triggers as well).


The PSP2 will come with new internal software called LiveArea, which is all about connecting you to nearby gamers. You can login and see who's playing what games nearby, what the high scores are in a given area, and connect with other gamers.


Sony also seems keen on ridiculous descriptors for various aspects of the PSP2 (such as the acronym NGP for Next Generation Portable). They are also calling the design "Super Oval Design," and referring to the analog thumbsticks as "Micro Analog Sticks," which shouldn't be confused for nubs.


Here's the kicker: it should be available by the 2011 holiday season.


For more on the PSP2, checkout Kotaku's liveblog straight from the Playstation event in Japan. [<a href="http://kotaku.com/5744297/live-from-sonys-tokyo-press-conference">Kotaku]




I'm not even much of a Playstation person. I've mostly been Xbox back when I was into consoles. This is pretty much what I wanted in a handheld since the beginning. (except the motion controls, that's just a bonus, and the touch screen only being used for menus, not gameplay)


I just hope it doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

EDIT: NVM, the implementation of touch screens is actually quite ingenious for gameplay. Back panel I just realized is also a touch screen that can correlate with the  front of the screen.


Also I am completely apathetic to 3D shit Nintendo is peddling...

EDIT2: Updated the info from the kotaku article.
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Honestly, just as it's always been, Sony and Nintendo are selling two completely gameplay experiences, with Nintendo hedging on the gimmick aspect.

Given that fact, I'm pretty jazzed for this so-called "NGP."  The idea of being able to carry around a PS3 with you anywhere is pretty baller, but I'm just hoping that there will be some way to take the physical media customers may already have (UMDs) and legally obtain rights to them as a digital media.  I remember that was a big issue about the PSPGo that wasn't ever resolved, as far as I have seen. 

Regardless, as long as Sony doesn't repeat the same issues with the PSP (mediocre catalog, terrible advertisement strategies, continuous and futile firmware updates to tighten up security passthroughs that they didn't anticipate), I believe this will be THE handheld to own.

Speaking of which, has anything been formally announced about the PSP Phone?


EDIT:  Pardon my ignorance if the article(s) have said anything about what I've asked, I haven't actually read them.  I'm just going off of second-hand info that I've seen on here and Facebook.
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I love my PSP3000.  It got me through six months of Army training. 

But this... holy shit it looks beautiful.  I was vaguely interested in the 3DS, but like Nikuru said, Nintendo depends on their gimmicks.  The PSP2 (I refuse to call it anything else) has actual gameplay mechanics that can change the way a game is played (finally get to use all of our fingers!).  The DS was a ridiculous pain in the ass to play because a stylus plus buttons doesn't fucking work for my hands.  Adding 3D, as cool as it is without glasses, doesn't fix this fundamental problem. 

I am pretty sure I will be buying one of these.
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The DS has always been about having a handful of absurdly good exclusives and nothing else, the 3DS is going to be the same way.  As long as there is Phoenix Wright on the 3DS, I shall own one.

On the other hand, this is looking p. sweet and the whole "play your PS3 games on the go" thing removes the problem that the PSP had for me (i.e. had no games that I felt were worth keeping the system around for).  I shall own one.

edit: http://www.joystiq.com/2011/01/27/watch-the-ngp-concept-video/#continued

lol this is the most terrible bullshit fluff video.  It hurt me a little to watch it even.  Pretty much every new technology does videos like this now and I wish they'd quit.
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If this has PS2 backwards compatability like the PSP had PS1 backwards compatability, I'll buy it in an instant. They haven't mentioned it yet, but IIRC the PSP didn't have it's backwards compatability when it launched.

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The DS has always been about having a handful of absurdly good exclusives and nothing else, the 3DS is going to be the same way.  As long as there is Phoenix Wright on the 3DS, I shall own one.

On the other hand, this is looking p. sweet and the whole "play your PS3 games on the go" thing removes the problem that the PSP had for me (i.e. had no games that I felt were worth keeping the system around for).  I shall own one.

edit: http://www.joystiq.com/2011/01/27/watch-the-ngp-concept-video/#continued

lol this is the most terrible bullshit fluff video.  It hurt me a little to watch it even.  Pretty much every new technology does videos like this now and I wish they'd quit.

hipster are taking over sony.

I liked a few games on PSP and DS and Agree with Vellfire as long as Phoenix Wright and Layton exist I will have to get the 3DS but not a lot of psp games apple to me I think Valkyria Chronicles 2 and The Unlosing Ranger seem to be the ones I like so far.
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I'm giving less and less of a shit about the 3DS the more I look at it. I think I'll just wait for the emulators to be good rather than spending £229 ($365) on one for the 3 or 4 games I'll want to play on it. Especially because I only ever play my DS at home and I don't care about the 3D trick at all.
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Looks like a great machine...
to play emulated games on.
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Looks great but what the fuck is the launch price going to be? That looks like an expensive piece of hardware.
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http://www.computerandvideogames.com/285845/news/sony-ngp-price-it-wont-be-599/
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That was a quick rebuttal.
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Hrm. Alright then. So basically between 500 and 750 for me.

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The DS has always been about having a handful of absurdly good exclusives and nothing else, the 3DS is going to be the same way.  As long as there is Phoenix Wright on the 3DS, I shall own one.

Pretty much this especially with the next game starring Phoenix Wright being that Phoenix Wright/Prof. Layton crossover.
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Well it's great they're taking the exact same strategy for this device as they did with the original PSP. Expensive and high tech slated to come out months after Nintendo's gimmick-based handheld. I guess they're banking on DUAL ANALOG STICKS? Or was the PSP actually a "success" to them?
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Well it's great they're taking the exact same strategy for this device as they did with the original PSP. Expensive and high tech slated to come out months after Nintendo's gimmick-based handheld. I guess they're banking on DUAL ANALOG STICKS? Or was the PSP actually a "success" to them?

60+ million and relevance in at least one market is "something."  Certainly better than no market at all. (gotta think positive) :P
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Well it's almost if not as powerful as a PS3 so I guess Call of Duty is gonna make this a success :/
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Pretty much this especially with the next game starring Phoenix Wright being that Phoenix Wright/Prof. Layton crossover.

Exactly, as soon as that was announced I went "welp looks like I'm getting a 3DS for sure then".

Did they actually confirm the "play your ps3 games on the go" thing?  Because the only time I remembered reading about it was before the official announcement and uh HERE.  Most of the things I've seen after the announcement were just lists of specs so if someone could link me to something that properly confirms that you will be able to start playing a game on your PS3 and then continue to play it on your NGP then that would be rad.  That's the only thing that properly sells me on this device unless some sort of fantastic list of exclusive games I can't live without is released.  I'm not gonna lie I'd be pretty content to spend $300 just to play Fallout on the go.
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I'm pretty sure nothing official has been said on that. It'd be pretty cool, but it would be a bit hard seeing as a lot of games mandate installs, and the thing will probably have a tiny internal HDD, if any at all.

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I remember reading right before they announced this officially that it was going to have a chip that would be about as powerful as the original Xbox.  Now they're saying it's about as powerful as the PS3 so either the original thing was just speculation or they're sort of stretching it a bit.  As for the HDD though isn't this thing purely digital copies?  Or are they just using a different storage system than UMDs?  Either way it'll probably let you use SD cards or whatever the Sony version of it is called (I always forget) so the storage is definitely doable, I just doubt the system's ability to run it.

Also I am too lazy to go look this up right now does this thing have two sets of L/R buttons?  How did the PSP handle this with PSX games anyway?
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