i guess this is some kind of argument game to you (is this conscious? it has got to be, it's like a minefield) so w/e, do your kinds of narratives of events to your hearts end boy. i'll stay away and let this suffocate everything.
I'm sorry, but I can't respect it when someone tells me I'm just out to make fun of people, and then tells me this whole discussion is just an "argument game" to me. I'm not doing the debate olympics here. The only reason why I'm putting in the time and effort is because I think this is an important issue. And I think that people who are on the wrong side of it deserve nothing less but to be unequivocally denounced.
And furthermore, I don't believe in trying to meet impossible standards of amenity. Sooner or later, in a discussion like this, someone's going to be offended. I accept that, both as the offended and as the offender. Sometimes people deserve nothing less but to be called out and confronted with the viewpoints they have uttered and their consequences. It's always good to try and avoid it, but not at the cost of telling the truth, because that's a futile cause.