I'm British and working class. It's built into my very DNA that it's us vs them, just as much as it is that I love drinking tea or always watch Doctor Who.

also

The United Nations General Assembly has condemned the embargo as a violation of international law every year since 1992. Israel routinely joins the U.S. in voting against the resolution as has Palau every year since 2004 to 2008. On October 26, 2010, for the 19th time, the United Nations condemned the embargo, 192 to 2 with 3 abstentions. Israel sided with the U.S.[39]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_Cuba

The class system here is much more rigid and enforced than in america. While the us has the pretense of 'the american dream', here we simply have 'shut up and know your place'. The undemocratic freeloading hypocrite prince charles has publicly said that people's asperations give them ideas above their station. That's prettymuch it, english culture. Like seriously everything here is defined by class, so when people like tony blair say they created a 'classless society' you know he's talking out of his ass, because an upper-middle class prick like him wouldn't even notice the working class when he drives over them on the way to work (which funnily enough he had amongst the worst attendence at the house of parliament)

Nah, you see the same kind of classwarfare in the states if you look for it. You're right about it being masked but its still there.

the US be allowed to embargo whoever it wants? Doesn't like, every country have embargoes at least sometimes?. Or is there specifically something about this particular embargo that makes it illegal that differentiates it from other embargoes?

In times of war then it makes sense. But the US embargo on cuba is mostly because cuba is communist, the same for N. Korea. Yet we openly trade with china and are largly dependent on china. Its wrong internationally because the united states (like most free-trade countries) is open to immagration from those countries as well. So, while having large deposits of citizens from cuba and N.korea how is it fair to stop them from going to the homeland or trading with it?

We have class warfare too. Its called the republican and democratic parties. You just don't have a schism with it like you guys do, here. You got dumb working class motherfuckers who vote and think against themselves, my father is one of them. Except he doesn't vote and just bitches about the president being black and watches fox news all day.

that's about what i do all day, except i don't have cable so i cant watch fox

yeah but his favorite TV show is the wire

how the fuck did we ever take this guy seriously

Yet we openly trade with china and are largly dependent on china.

We trade with China because it isn't communist. Not that I support embargoes against communist countries.

there's no such thing as a communist country

B-)

there's no such thing as a communist country

You're right, I meant:

We trade with China because it isn't "communist". Not that I support embargoes against "communist" countries.

idgi, both of these parties represent the same class (the elites, with minor lip service to different pockets of middle class). there is no party in america that supports the working class. count how many times obama mentions the words working class or poor people (the answer is zero). all he ever talks about is the middle class and restoring reagan's dream of america being the lighthouse on a hill or some fucking stupid shit i dont give a fuck. fuck obama.

I know, its class warfare. You have both these classes fucking the working class and the working class doesn't even know its getting fucked or how to fuck back. Its like germany vs poland; "what the fuck you mean I have to put this uniform on and march with you?" "Its because you lost..." "oh, ok......lost what?"
 
Its kind of like how the kid on the ground getting his face beat in for pretty much no reason and hasn't thrown a single punch back is still considered fighting.
 
What I know they aren't real communist but the american percieved version of communism. I thought china's republic wasn't very differen't from cuba or N.Korea at all. Which is why I made the comparison.

pretty much. i noncommittally call myself agnostic if asked just to avoid stupid assocation

maybe i should say to all fiscal centrists YOU ARE HITLER in a bid to prove just how stupid that line of thinking is

parts of reddit are awesome if you only use it as a link aggregator, once you look at comments/posts there though it's fucking awful