These days though, whenever people say they are a 'humanist', they mean that they are an atheist/agnostic with good ethics or moral values. Its a bit more rare that the term is used in conjunction with anything religious in nature.

So I guess I'm referring to the most common use of the word.

I read Barefaced Messiah which is an indepth biography of L Ron Hubbard which was made from decades of research and interviews with family members and close friends. The Church Of Scientology tried to block the book from being written and actually frame the journalist involved of murder, but the book got published regardless. It's very very good and just shows how insane it is that people follow the religion. He essentially made it to make money and told people this! He also spent most of his life as a pathological liar, even at a young age he was lying to people about how how he was a pilot.


Also: http://godisimaginary.com/index.htm is interesting.

Also: I think religion is bullshit, but I agree with Kaworu that there is a spiritual aspect to life and meditation can be like prayer.

That really wasn't what I was getting at. I totally can see that things I like can be criticized and I'm not offended if you guys don't like stuff I like. I just noticed that I've never seen any mention of a comedian or show here that didn't get torn apart by at least one person. For the most part I really have no idea what kind of things people here find humorous anymore.

We all like different things I think. It's a discussion board so of course everyone's going to disagree on some stuff. I'd rather it be that way than us all have group mentality and agree on everything. Hey, I think South Park can be pretty funny! I can see where they are coming from too, but I still think they have funny episodes. The one about killing ginger people made me laugh or the one with the dog whisperer who tried to make Cartman be a good boy. Also the n*ggerguy episode with Mel Gibson and Michael Richards (Kramer) from Seinfield.

P.S Even though Richard Dawkins is a dick, are any of his books worth reading?