Topic: official talk smack about the game industry thread (Read 4711 times)

  • Avatar of EvilDemonCreature
  • i don't like change
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Premium Member
  • Joined: Jul 5, 2002
  • Posts: 1453
I've heard of a lot of artists who will have corporate people come back and tell them "nope, gotta make the outfits skimpier and the tits bigger ! ! !" and basically if they say no they're now unemployed so yeah this happens plenty and it's incredibly depressing.
 
It is such a shame that exactly this is not equated with sexual harassment. Is it with the way the courts define it, literally impossible to bring such a termination up as any form of sexual harassment? Does it have to effect an employee directly to qualify, or even so, could it ever apply to being forcefully coerced into committing acts that demean and objectify an entire gender under threat of job termination? What in the eyes of the law makes such an act any more legal than from the case of company policy forcing employees to demean and objectify female members of their workforce directly, while under threat of termination from not doing so?
 
What if the artist claims that they are truly mentally and/or physically uncomfortable with the thought of being forced into the position of rendering huge heaving breasts barely contained by a single strap of leather that corporate deems "quality armor"? Does the artist have zero rights in that position?
 
Or would they simply never have been put into that position, because of her or his disposition completely removing them from the running of ever getting that artist job in the first place? (Do employers have to screen their artists, to make sure they have the right tastes and aptitudes geared specifically for boob rendering aesthetics?  Do their programmers have to be interviewed in order to deem their passionate personal drive towards crafting the most ideal boobie physics engine conceivable?)
Last Edit: January 25, 2013, 06:39:20 pm by EvilDemonCreature
  • Avatar of ATARI
  • Lichens!
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Premium Member
  • Joined: Oct 26, 2002
  • Posts: 4136
i wonder what the amount of money is that has been invested in the development of proper boob physics.
  • Avatar of Vellfire
  • TV people want to leave
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Premium Member
  • Joined: Feb 13, 2004
  • Posts: 9602
who was the first person to have to animate 3D boobs jiggling in a game
I love this hobby - stealing your mother's diary
BRRING! BRRING!
Hello!  It's me, Vellfire!  FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER! ... Bye!  CLICK!  @gidgetnomates
  • Avatar of esiann
  • destroyer of mayos
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Premium Member
  • Joined: Dec 3, 2003
  • Posts: 1289
I have been thinking about this. It has to be a fighting game, right? They all have female characters, there are tons, and the resting animation apparently cries out for a jiggly bosom. I was reading up on Dead or Alive, and apparently that's (one of) the first to pay special attention to jiggle animations. This guy's super into it.
  • Avatar of crone_lover720
  • PEW PEW PEW
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Premium Member
  • Joined: Mar 25, 2002
  • Posts: 5554
Quote
This along with what he views as Tekken's stagnation in the fighting game genre (starting from Tekken 4), led him to condemn the Tekken series, placing it as his top five hated games,[16] in spite of him stating Tekken, Tekken 2, and Tekken 3 were good games which his family enjoyed.[3]
what a life!!
 
edit sorry I should have read the whole thing before running my mouth
 
Quote
The Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball games are just meant for simple fun, and to fulfill a 'love' for the female characters, letting the player nurture and watch the girls partaking in simple joys. Even though he admits to there being sexual content in the game, Itagaki refuses to create scenarios which he feels are vulgar for his 'daughters', a term he uses to call the female characters.[11]
Last Edit: January 26, 2013, 05:47:51 am by earlchip
  • Avatar of goldenratio
  • now das fresh
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Member
  • Joined: Jun 27, 2002
  • Posts: 4550
I bet Tomb Raider was the first to put forth concentrated effort on the breast fidelity.
Last Edit: January 26, 2013, 11:28:25 pm by goldenratio
yes coulombs are "germaine", did you learn that word at talk like a dick school?
  • Avatar of dada
  • VILLAIN
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Administrator
  • Joined: Dec 27, 2002
  • Posts: 5538
I bet it was the first to have a nude patch anyhow
  • Avatar of Hundley
  • professional disappointment
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Premium Member
  • Joined: Jun 24, 2002
  • Posts: 2426
I bet it was the first to have a nude patch anyhow
no way did it take the industry that many years for a nude patch. i'm sure there was a nude patch for ZORK or something.
  • Avatar of dada
  • VILLAIN
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Administrator
  • Joined: Dec 27, 2002
  • Posts: 5538
West of House
You are standing in an open field west of a white house, with a boarded front door.
There is a small mailbox here.
You are also completely naked.
It's rather cold.

> _
  • Avatar of thecatamites
  • clockamite
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Premium Member
  • Joined: May 6, 2007
  • Posts: 1445
http://www.arcade-museum.com/game_detail.php?game_id=7985 original custom breast system's
 
it beats me why people give a fuck about david cronenberg really
http://harmonyzone.org
  • Avatar of Vellfire
  • TV people want to leave
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Premium Member
  • Joined: Feb 13, 2004
  • Posts: 9602
I bet it was the first to have a nude patch anyhow
no way did it take the industry that many years for a nude patch. i'm sure there was a nude patch for ZORK or something.
 

well i mean we had a rape simulator in the atari-era so there's BOUND to have been nude patches as soon as patching things was easy enough for amateurs to do
I love this hobby - stealing your mother's diary
BRRING! BRRING!
Hello!  It's me, Vellfire!  FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER! ... Bye!  CLICK!  @gidgetnomates
  • Avatar of catouak
  • Group: Member
  • Joined: Nov 22, 2012
  • Posts: 20
I wonder when we are going to stop focusing on the violence in video games and start focusing on the psychological effects of video games with burly, primal white dudes and their unreasonably busty female counterparts. It sickens me just the same as going through a grocery store line only to have magazines with celebrities-without-makeup and how-to-flatten-your-stomach-in-just-ten-days! When will the media stop feeding off our insecurity of imperfection? What are the psychological effects of main characters as the cis-gendered 'ideal male/female' on those who are anything but? I am in no way surprised that a multi-million dollar business is more worried about profit than the well-being of it's consumers. I wish there was something we could do to call for a change.
I'm definitely beating a dead horse here, but I thought I'd add my two cents.
 
This gender role nonsense spills out into pretty much everything other aspect of society too.. The other day I was working when a customer brought up an ornament of a dog with a flower on it's head and shorts(my work sells a lot of weird stuff okay). As she set it down on my counter, she suddenly realized that this dog ornament could be dressed up like a girl. "Do you think that this looks like it's for a girl? I'm getting this for my nephew." The ornament was really even not that feminine. "It could be for either," I told her. "No, no, no. Put it back. This is for a girl." I cannot tell you how hard it is to face the fact that our culture breeds such a discrimination against what a boy or girl should or shouldn't have on a daily basis. I wanted to give her a speech on how she shouldn't raise a child in this world to think in such a way. But I have to shut my mouth to save face.
 
These expectations our culture has feel so in response to the pressure of media. Media that feeds off of our insecurity! Guys, I'm so mad you guys.
 
TL;DR : I'm really mad about gender roles you guys
  • Avatar of tuxedo marx
  • Fuckin' A.
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Premium Member
  • Joined: Oct 21, 2005
  • Posts: 4143
I wanted to give her a speech on how she shouldn't raise a child in this world to think in such a way. But I have to shut my mouth to save face.
*mao bursts forth wagging his finger*
  • Avatar of ATARI
  • Lichens!
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Premium Member
  • Joined: Oct 26, 2002
  • Posts: 4136
gender rolls are a lot better if you smear them in apple butter
  • Avatar of dada
  • VILLAIN
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Administrator
  • Joined: Dec 27, 2002
  • Posts: 5538
It sickens me just the same as going through a grocery store line only to have magazines with celebrities-without-makeup and how-to-flatten-your-stomach-in-just-ten-days! When will the media stop feeding off our insecurity of imperfection?
it's hard to imagine this ever being different, but it's possible. I think the only way to really do something about this is to keep educating people whenever you can. it's a slow and tedious process. one way to do this is by continuously pointing out how this sort of thing is exclusionary and hurts people. the video games industry has a lot of hardcore fans who will vocally support exactly this type of thing and fight for the cis straight white male hegemony to be maintained, but I believe that a broad public, once educated, is sober enough to force the issue to change. that's how it typically goes with this sort of thing. I don't see any other way to do it.
  • Avatar of fucked up wastoid
  • Pip
  • Group: Member
  • Joined: Sep 1, 2012
  • Posts: 187
 I wish there was something we could do to call for a change.
the only way to get change is to prove that there's a market for what you're arguing for. create something that's counter to the values espoused by the media and show everybody how profitable it is. 
 
look at tyler perry for instance. everyone likes to laugh at how shitty the madea movies are, but that dude is filthy rich and created a media empire for himself that's completely outside the mainstream establishment. and the secret to his success is because he knew there was an enormous market that was being neglected and that there was a ton of money to be made. granted the madea movies are shit, but they're important in that they blazed that trail and proved there was a market. now the next young black filmmaker who's more talented that perry will have something to aim for, and the status of media created for and by blacks can begin to elevate itself. 
  • Avatar of fucked up wastoid
  • Pip
  • Group: Member
  • Joined: Sep 1, 2012
  • Posts: 187
I wanted to give her a speech on how she shouldn't raise a child in this world to think in such a way. But I have to shut my mouth to save face.
*mao bursts forth wagging his finger*
the ghost of mao giving me a thumbs up instead isn't going to make unemployment feel any better. i think he did the right thing.
  • Avatar of tuxedo marx
  • Fuckin' A.
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Premium Member
  • Joined: Oct 21, 2005
  • Posts: 4143
idk that would make me feel great but admittedly calling forth the spirit of mao zedong has to come against practical considerations, it's true. take care in who you speak to about unemployment like that
  • Avatar of dada
  • VILLAIN
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Administrator
  • Joined: Dec 27, 2002
  • Posts: 5538
the only way to get change is to prove that there's a market for what you're arguing for. create something that's counter to the values espoused by the media and show everybody how profitable it is. 
I'm a little wary of the notion that profit or commercial success is the only way to educate people, tho, because it takes a long time to turn that ship around, and during that time such things might not get a lot of support or public interest (because, all things considered, the most active and profitable demographic is still very much focused on HeAvY and HaRdCoRe XtReMe boob physics—other demographics surely exist but they sorta have to figure out on their own what's out there). I'm not an expert on the gaming industry of course, so what do I know, but it kinda seems to me like this is a very difficult, uphill battle. Not that I'm saying it's a BAD thing, of course, it's very a good thing. (And actually, doing this is one form of the public education that I mentioned.)
Last Edit: January 29, 2013, 01:02:21 am by dada
  • Avatar of Warped655
  • Scanner
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Member
  • Joined: Mar 25, 2004
  • Posts: 2416
Creating something like that would be basically a more extreme version of creating a new IP. You are unlikely to get much of a 'bite' on the first go. but if you really pull it off there is a decent chance the sequel will really ramp up in sales due to word of mouth for the original. And sequels from there will probably also continue an uphill trend.
Last Edit: January 29, 2013, 03:17:41 am by Warped655