Religion Is anyone here an ex-atheist? (Read 2945 times)

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Well when you put it that way, then it's apparent that I did misspeak. But it is still a mutually symbiotic relationship. Until methods of empirical testing verify the ideas that Kant first put forward, they are all just speculation no different from any other philosophy competing with Kant's idea at the time.
 
For the one instant a set of empirical tests is put forth that once conducted, verified Kant's philosophy as thoughts regarding "general relativity", then every single philosophical thought (posing an alternate worldview in direct conflict with this one) has just right then been reduced to nothing beyond "philosophical drivel that literally has no purpose left to serve anymore". Philosophy students can maybe later read those accounts in a history book and then philosophize on how those guys who were not Kant had such faulty premises to start with.
 
Philosophy has just as much to gain though Empirical Testing as empirical testing has to gain through philosophic discourse. But yeah, I agree it is foolish to ever think either one is taking away from the other, when it is apparent that both only have things to add.
Last Edit: July 30, 2013, 06:25:40 pm by EvilDemonCreature
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It's interesting to see atheists believing in stuff that can't be proven either, and yet feel morally superior, as if you had science on your side, and everyone else didn't.  I was once in that position, I know what it is like.
 
Newsflash: Christianity does not nullify empirical testing, and empirical testing doesn't nullify the need for metaphysics.
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I was still able to substantively reply when you were still making substantive posts but now I don't see why anyone takes you seriously anymore
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was still able to substantively reply when you were still making substantive posts but now I don't see why anyone takes you seriously anymore
 
Is this what passes for an argument nowadays?
 
EDIT: FAUST - Adds nothing to the discussion re: insults. Please keep it civil.
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In Sweden they're entitled to adopt children, but that is likely to change as the majority of that country's population eventually turns to Islam.
 
Wow, I was going to stay out of this thread due to OH NO RELIGIONCHAT, but I just have to clarify a few things:
 
1) You're suggesting that the MAJORITY OF SWEDEN will turn to Islam? What timeframe are you suggesting?
2) Historically, do you know of Western nations taking away rights from a minority group that have been recently won? I'm not aware of any EU member state reducing civil rights of homosexuals, rather than adding to them.
3) You use the word "likely" to change. Could you clarify this evidence-wise?
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1) Eventually, why not? Muslim families have higher fertility rates than the rest of Sweden. Christianity started as a minority group too, but it eventually became the norm for Rome and countless other western countries mostly through proselytizing. What makes it impossible that the mechanism that turned Christianity the norm for the West also Works for Islam?
 
2) Germany attempted to take away Jews' right to exist, didn't it? So did Bolsheviks to a lot of other minority groups, but that's probably not the kind of "minority" you're thinking of. Anyway, we're not at the end of history yet, where we have created this utopia where everyone is equal and happy and it can't ever end. In fact, many empires fell just after they felt things were good enough.
 
3) See 1. See Sharia zones.
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Sorry but this has gone from just being a silly conversation about """religion""" to downright conspiratorial and racist so we're ending this here. goodbye.
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AHHHHHHH THE ISLAMIFICATION OF EUROPE!!! OH NO!
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oh god how did I not notice inri cheetos / gentile cheerios
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congratulations on finding a racist conspiracy theory that makes u happy. alex jones smiles down from heaven which doesn't exist and was probably invented by some 10000-year old pedophile anyway
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I also like the part in the bibble where the tree of knowledge is evil DON'T THINK god will make u happy DON'T THINK
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oh god how did I not notice inri cheetos / gentile cheerios
ya...if it is him he followed the path to a T, going from near(?) criminal to having an epiphany and finding god but not actually being all that different.
 
the topic seems configured to cause an uproar and allow the OC to become the erudite center of attention, which would have worked on GW circa 2006 or 4chan or a porn forum.
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haha sorry I was a little angry before because I actually had some faith in gentileCheetos (get it FAITH) I'm not even necessarily atheist but I think organized religion still owes us about like 1000 years worth of trolling partially/fully because of the whole boinking children thing. lol @ religion = morals and noreligion = no morals argument. But yeah disappointed because legimate reasoning for christian/any religion in particular turns into anything but one of those moslems
 
wait what did inriCheetos do when he was inriCheetos/Cheetos the Grey
 
but yeah religion reminds me of that game Populous where you're like the blue guys with your god and they're the red guys and ooh they must be bad since they're red but basically you look like the same dudes/palette-swapped sprites DIFFERENT RELIGIONS AS PALETTE SWAPS holy shit the creator of this game was brilliant
 
or religions are Alex and Roger from Tekken and they have the same exact moves/animations only difference is one's a kangaroo and one's a dinosaur
 
Edit: btw wiki says they were afraid Populous/creator of populous would get a fatwa on it/him that's how you know it's TRUTH
Last Edit: July 31, 2013, 06:19:09 pm by Ragnar
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if you mean what did he do to warrant "near criminal", a lot of stuff. he was like raskolnikov in the first half of crime and punishment in terms of morals. at first he was like an off-kilter conspiracy guy, and you couldn't be sure if he was serious or mocking. more recently, he posted a lot of really vile bigoted stuff including one episode where he was essentially saying people who practice samba in brazil (generally black street people/urban poor)(also not protestant lol) are sub-human. he'd also physically stalk women. he did some awful stuff then got banned and came back on MinceWobley and got banned and came back as Libtard and did more awful stuff and got banned and possibly came back as gentilecheerios and got banned for more bigot shit. I mean we don't know if it's him, gentilecheerios seems a little too obvious but the personality is a pretty good match.
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if you mean what did he do to warrant "near criminal", a lot of stuff. he was like raskolnikov in the first half of crime and punishment in terms of morals. at first he was like an off-kilter conspiracy guy, and you couldn't be sure if he was serious or mocking. more recently, he posted a lot of really vile bigoted stuff including one episode where he was essentially saying people who practice samba in brazil (generally black street people/urban poor)(also not protestant lol) are sub-human. he'd also physically stalk women. he did some awful stuff then got banned and came back on MinceWobley and got banned and came back as Libtard and did more awful stuff and got banned and possibly came back as gentilecheerios and got banned for more bigot shit. I mean we don't know if it's him, gentilecheerios seems a little too obvious but the personality is a pretty good match.
 
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oh god how did I not notice inri cheetos / gentile cheerios
idiot. get a fucking grip. 
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I'm an ex-calling-myself-atheist. I stopped when I realized how pointless the label is. It's just as useful as calling yourself an "amermaidist". To pick on one facet of humanity's various mythologies and to label yourself based on the rejection of that one thing seems strange to me. I reject all supernatural claims, not just deities.
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I saw a stupid article a bunch of nerds on twitter were raving about that said like Atheism is a Mental Disease or something and it had some study by harvard showing that people who believe in god are less likely to fall into depression and it was kind of funny to me because it wasn't denying atheist philosophy or anything and basically saying "These people are probably right, but in being right they are vile retards"