Why the fucking shit would you want sonic in a fucking smash brothers game. This fucks up fox's agility and speed, new fastest character. The fuckin hedgehod was in 2 games on the god damned gamecube.

Same to you, welcome to GW and all but make more substantial posts (or at least NOT FUCKING FUCK SWEAR FUCKING SWEARING EVERY FUCK FUCKING FUCK WORD).

I bet his moveset will either vamoose or change for the time he is Super.

..ya, I'm pretty sure all of the characters change when in final smash mode. Like I said, Sonic's controls will more than likely contain flying and hitting things really hard.

What special moves could Sonic have besides the Spin Dash and turning Super Sonic, perhaps some Down+B could be the shield from the original games? It would be cool if Sonic could collect rings or something, and once he reached 50 he could go Super Sonic. 

I have a theory that people who are against or indifferent towards this Sonic news are under 20 years old.  But for old timers like me, we have been waiting for something like this since 1991. (don't bring us down)

You've been waiting for Sonic to appear in Ssb since '91? I liked Sonic back when he first came out, but after all the recent games, not so much. I especially don't like his voice and "attitude".

I have a theory that people who are against or indifferent towards this Sonic news are under 20 years old.  But for old timers like me, we have been waiting for something like this since 1991. (don't bring us down)

Ugh, don't start this age disparity argument.  Sonic has been in too many bad and uncontrollable titles and has come too far from his roots for him to be a respectable game icon anymore.  The Rush titles are two gold watches in a sea of shit, and they need to come out with a phenomenal 3D title to get that respect back.  If anything, I'd think people under 20 would be ecstatic because they haven't played the classics, and this type of Sonic gameplay is something they're accustomed to (e.g. they would likely complain that the old Sonic series doesn't 'contain enough variety.')

I hope there's no AC character, personally...

Also IceManual, you're wrong. Fox was never the fastest character.

EDIT: Sarhan actually Fox is very good, thanks!

EDITEDIT: Sonic's moveset is cool, it seems he can spin or whatever in midair, as seen in the Adventure Mode tunnel thing. Cool. 

I have a theory that people who are against or indifferent towards this Sonic news are under 20 years old.  But for old timers like me, we have been waiting for something like this since 1991. (don't bring us down)

I am under 20 years old but as I said earlier in this topic, I actually grew up with Sonic, watched the Sonic cartoons, read Sonic comics and all that. I don't think I'm old timer but if I was over 20 hell yeah I would be one, but right now I am a hardcore guy (using Jester's definition of hardcore of course).

I liked Sonic back when he first came out, but after all the recent games, not so much. I especially don't like his voice and "attitude".

I liked the SA games, the GBA games and the Rush ones. Heroes was meh, Shadow was garbage and Sonic 2006 (the one released for PS3 and 360) was total shit. Secret Rings is pretty good IMO. His voice, I think, is actually what fits his character and attitude. And speaking of attitude, he always had one from way back in '91, he just didn't have a voice to accompany it. Hence that idle animation of his where he grows impatient and looks at the player and then telling them to go forward by pointing his fingers.

Also idk man but there are still a lot of stages, tracks, items, Assists and Pokemons to cover, maybe even characters. I guess they delayed the game for that reason, to show us the rest of the stuff, but I think they are also fine tuning aspects of it. You never know.

On the context of AC characters, in that link I posted (I sure talk about that link a lot) Sakurai himself mentioned that he wouldn't find it interesting and fitting to see AC characters fighting (actually he said Tom Nook but I guess he doesn't like the idea of other AC characters fighting as well).

I liked the SA games, the GBA games and the Rush ones. Heroes was meh, Shadow was garbage and Sonic 2006 (the one released for PS3 and 360) was total shit. Secret Rings is pretty good IMO. His voice, I think, is actually what fits his character and attitude. And speaking of attitude, he always had one from way back in '91, he just didn't have a voice to accompany it. Hence that idle animation of his where he grows impatient and looks at the player and then telling them to go forward by pointing his fingers.

Also idk man but there are still a lot of stages, tracks, items, Assists and Pokemons to cover, maybe even characters. I guess they delayed the game for that reason, to show us the rest of the stuff, but I think they are also fine tuning aspects of it. You never know.

On the context of AC characters, in that link I posted (I sure talk about that link a lot) Sakurai himself mentioned that he wouldn't find it interesting and fitting to see AC characters fighting (actually he said Tom Nook but I guess he doesn't like the idea of other AC characters fighting as well).

His voice is the exact same from the old 90s cartoon, all nasally and whiney. His attitude was great in the beginning, but like Pasty said, he's gone too far from his roots.

Fun Fact: Jaleel White did the voice for Sonic in the old cartoon. Of course, we all remember him as Urkel, from Family Matters.

Now how would you feel about Urkel replacing Sonic in Ssbb, because that it how I see Sonic now-a-days. 

His voice is the exact same from the old 90s cartoon, all nasally and whiney. His attitude was great in the beginning, but like Pasty said, he's gone too far from his roots.

Fun Fact: Jaleel White did the voice for Sonic in the old cartoon. Of course, we all remember him as Urkel, from Family Matters.

I guess you're right. But I still like his voice!

Also Jaleel White did the voice for Sonic in all three Sonic cartoons. That means the first one, Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, the other one which was based off of the comic and Sonic Underground. In Underground, he did the voice of all three hedgehogs, Sonic and his "siblings".

P.S: Underground sucks.

Yeah, I never played any of those 3D games.  I don't think I've played a Sonic game since Sonic 2 or 3.  So my ignorance of Sonic's tarnished reputation as an icon allows me to appreciate this update as if he still was a gaming icon.

I still appreciate him...

In other words, I just logged in to say that I noticed something. Notice how Sonic grabs an item and goes YAHOO or something in the Shadow Moses Island stage and crashes into the wall? That looks awfully like a Warp Star from Kirby if I'm not mistaken. If so then YES!

With that, I guess I really don't have anything else to say on the matter! So how about those gameplay videos, eh?

I like the part where Peach dances in that gameplay video, it's cute... >_>

Yay Sonic!

I haven't actually played any Sonic games outside of the Sega Genesis back in the days of my youth, so Sonic has never been tainted to me with all these garbage games he's in apparently.

Sonic just brings up embarrassing memories from my youth...


*sniffle*

It seems hard for me to recognize the character that P1 chose. Who is he?