Yeah I have a contact that can get pretty much anything. Except I think he wouldn't get us the bad shit because he's more or less a good person (like he would definately deny any request to get heroin/cocaine/meth). So no, didn't do anything to help it up.

Well, I'd start out with a low dose.
An added plus for low doses is that sometimes they wear off after 2 hours already or something like that, instead of the full duration of 6 hours.
You're perception of time is pretty much fucked so those 6 hours feel like days, which I why never take higher doses anymore.
Because higher doses are pretty much like spirals of some sort. You keep shifting between states of happines and annoyance, fear, whatever. (Atleast for me). Also the visual things happening is pretty much a weirded up version of what's in front of you.
For example, I once had a higher dose and was lying on my bed, and if I started looking to a corner of my room the corner started expanding to other corners, and the print on my shirt was getting 3d etc.
Also make sure to close your eyes at one point, because the visuals you'll see with your eyes closed are pretty much fantastic with some psychedelic trance playing in the background.
But make sure you're not spending the majority of the trip just lying and looking to yourself, try interacting with your friend, because it's really fucking annoying that you're stuck in your head for what feels like days trying to talk some sense in yourself.
Shrooms are really inward spiritual experiences.
For me atleast.

I see, well, I'm an atheist, so I dunno how much of a spiritual experience it'd be for me, lol. I'm just looking to maybe expand my mind, possibly. And possibly my creativity. And of coarse, experience something amazing. But without suffering any permenant damage, like psychosis for example. But I'unno if I've ever heard of anyone suffering psychosis on shrooms, lsd on the other hand... Then again, I haven't really seen mushrooms talked about in the media quite as much as lsd. Like I said, I'm not an expert. But yea, the unusually long trips were the main thing that had me worried. Also, it takes a while to kick in I heard. Would smoking marijuana along with taking shrooms have any adverse effect, or does it make it more relaxing? I was just wondering because I thought maybe since weed keeps you in a calm happy mood, perhaps it'd be safe to smoke some while taking shrooms, and it'd make the trip even better. So, is it ok to mix the mary jane with the shrooms, or does it increase the likelihood of having a bad trip?(srry for all the questions, btw, just want to be safe)

I see, well, I'm an atheist, so I dunno how much of a spiritual experience it'd be for me, lol.

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But without suffering any permenant damage, like psychosis for example.

I think this is really really really rare with low doses.
As long as you know you're on the drug, have a trip-sitter and not take it right after your girlfriend has dumped you, I don't see how it could go wrong.

I see, well, I'm an atheist, so I dunno how much of a spiritual experience it'd be for me, lol.

I'm an atheist (well more like agnostic) but I'm perfectly capable of having spiritual experiences. Religiousness isn't a prerestique for spiritual experiences, but I'd say that spiritual experiences SHOULD be a prerestique for religiousness.

Psychedelics have been known to unlock latent psychological disorders. It's not going to give you schizophrenia unless you were already going to get it, but it could bring out something you don't know about.

Psychedelics have been known to unlock latent psychological disorders. It's not going to give you schizophrenia unless you were already going to get it, but it could bring out something you don't know about.

Well, I have autism, but I've fixed many of the issues I had before with my autism(nothing serious, i had ticks, talked too much, got really temperamental, and had a monotone voice(no emotion in my voice, just talked as some would describe it "like a robot")). And actually, after smoking marijuana, that has actually improved some of the things I was trying to work on.(mainly, it's made me more open, talk less, willing to accept change and talk to strangers(those are a few problems people with aspurgers autism have trouble with)) But as for shrooms, I'unno. I don't think I have any major personality or mental disorders, though. I think I should be fine with low dosage, tho. We'll see how things go. And if I like it, I may opt to do it again.

I'm an atheist (well more like agnostic) but I'm perfectly capable of having spiritual experiences. Religiousness isn't a prerestique for spiritual experiences, but I'd say that spiritual experiences SHOULD be a prerestique for religiousness.

In my view(this is just my stand point)hallucinations should be viewed as hallucinations, so I prefer not to view them in any way spiritual. But I do agree with you, spiritual experiences should be a prerequisite for religiousness. Because at least in that person's mind, they've questioned, and seen proof, that god, or whoever exists. So many people don't question, and merely assume, without evidence. There's no validity either way, but still, like the saying goes "seeing is believing." Of coarse, from any logical person's standpoint, it should be seen, as I said before, as a hallucination and nothing else. EDIT: oops! Sorry for the double post!

In my view(this is just my stand point)hallucinations should be viewed as hallucinations, so I prefer not to view them in any way spiritual. But I do agree with you, spiritual experiences should be a prerequisite for religiousness. Because at least in that person's mind, they've questioned, and seen proof, that god, or whoever exists. So many people don't question, and merely assume, without evidence. There's no validity either way, but still, like the saying goes "seeing is believing." Of coarse, from any logical person's standpoint, it should be seen, as I said before, as a hallucination and nothing else. EDIT: oops! Sorry for the double post!

It's not the hallucinations (if we're thinking visual or auditory) that makes the experience spiritual. It's feeling the presence of something else, a guider or whatever. A supreme being. It's a unique feeling. And while it indeed is nothing but the mind, that's what spiritualism is. It's not about BELIEVING IN GOD etc, but it's atoning to the power in your own mind that watches over you. Abrahamic religions are too much about believing in things outside your body (God and Jesus and whatnot) but imo religion should be about inward realisation of what reality means to you. And how you deal with it.

Might not make any sense but I'm doing my best here

In my view(this is just my stand point)hallucinations should be viewed as hallucinations, so I prefer not to view them in any way spiritual. But I do agree with you, spiritual experiences should be a prerequisite for religiousness. Because at least in that person's mind, they've questioned, and seen proof, that god, or whoever exists. So many people don't question, and merely assume, without evidence. There's no validity either way, but still, like the saying goes "seeing is believing." Of coarse, from any logical person's standpoint, it should be seen, as I said before, as a hallucination and nothing else. EDIT: oops! Sorry for the double post!

psychedelics, in a traditional sense do not produce true hallucinations, but rather visuals or visions. a toxic delerient such as datura, would produce actual hallucinations - in the sense that you see something that is not real, but you have no idea you are tripping and take it as a solid object.  the visions are manifested from your mind, drawing upon information and symbols from deep within your mind, it is personal, but also universal. it isnt the visuals that make the experience spiritual, its the quality of awareness, and the powerful removal of all previous programming that hinders us from seeing deeper levels of experience and expanded points of view. the hallucination is the ideas that society and our peers programs into us, the values that we are 'taught' are important, and mostly the view of the self as a fixed ego identity. Einstein called it an optical delusion.

"a human being is a part of a whole, called by us _universe_, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest... a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty."

psychedelics allow you to catch a glimpse of the self removed from this "optical delusion" and the other constraints of the ego. that in and of itself is spiritual: naked awareness, a meeting with the true nature of self. a true understanding of the deep connectedness of all life. when im on psychedelics i truly feel this connectedness to everything, in a very strong way. its euphoric and transfiguring.

It's not the hallucinations (if we're thinking visual or auditory) that makes the experience spiritual. It's feeling the presence of something else, a guider or whatever. A supreme being. It's a unique feeling. And while it indeed is nothing but the mind, that's what spiritualism is. It's not about BELIEVING IN GOD etc, but it's atoning to the power in your own mind that watches over you. Abrahamic religions are too much about believing in things outside your body (God and Jesus and whatnot) but imo religion should be about inward realisation of what reality means to you. And how you deal with it.

Might not make any sense but I'm doing my best here

Actually, that sounds somewhat similar to a religion I used to belong to: laveyan satanism.(it's an atheistic form, so no actual satan(they view satan as symbolic of themselves, and it's basically a ripoff of the works of these existentialists and philosophers: ayn rand, friedrich neitzsche, and ragnar redbeard))Only their belief is more around self worship(not actually worshipping, but putting themselves first) and many of the adherents(but not all)are elitist assholes who put themselves on a pedestal and think they're the center of the universe. But basically, they view themselves as their own gods, and view their life style and behavior as being like satan's. So, basically, they view satan more as a literary role model. Actually, now that I think about it, that seems much more about boosting one's ego than what you described. That's actually why I left it, I'm very hedonistic and am selfish I admit, but even I know that it is delusion to try and put oneself higher than the rest of society, especially since success in this society is built upon compromise and cooperation, that and I viewed all the symbolism and religious aspects of it as dribble.

well psychedellics is more about exploring your inner self to understand how you deal with the world.

though i kinda get what you're saying, the spiritual sides one has from psychedellics aren't a WORSHIP of oneself; rather the contrary. one is able to see ones faults as clear as day and understand that you have to struggle to come to peace with that.

well psychedellics is more about exploring your inner self to understand how you deal with the world.

though i kinda get what you're saying, the spiritual sides one has from psychedellics aren't a WORSHIP of oneself; rather the contrary. one is able to see ones faults as clear as day and understand that you have to struggle to come to peace with that.

Sounds sort of like what I've been doing all along. As I said, I have autism, and I spent some of my childhood as an uncommunicative creature(i say that because the way my mom described me, made me seem like i was crazy, making bird noises, screaming, basically, i was severely autistic, i just recently heard about this, beforehand i had believed i was missdiagnosed as being autistic, lol. Kind of funny, huh?), basically, I "woke up" at the age of six, because my mom worked with me. I couldn't remember when I was 5 or before, even when I was six.(weird that i couldn't remember a year ago)it wasn't important to me either. I was just content with living in the moment. It's weird because my memory is superb, i have like a photographic memory. But yea, since then I've improved more and more. Every time I saw a flaw in my behavior, and realized it, I fixed it. From my nervous ticks, to my talking to much, to my bad temper. All of them: fixed. I still have a few issues I suppose, but those are more a matter of lack of disciplining myself. So, the way you describe it seems like what i've been doing my whole life: making myself better and better, and getting rid of the flaws.

well psychedellics is more about exploring your inner self to understand how you deal with the world.

this is the reason they are such good catalysts for progress in psychotherapy. it also goes much deeper than that. psychedelics show us how we create our world.