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Dunno why that would wierd you out. When I found out THC was used to treat glaucoma, and cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy, I felt a strange sense of pride :gwa:

I meant I think the article is gone :(
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You did not imagine it!

http://www.cancerpage.com/news/article.asp?id=410
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guys is buckley's cough mixture all right for dxm. i got two of those. i got one robitussin with dxm as the only ingredient, plus this other one called dimetap which i got cos it's got two other ingredients which i didn't recognise as the dangerous ones.

anyway, if buckley's is all right i'll go over and buy some more but if not i will hunt out more robitussin cos i know it's all right.

what about that dimetap.
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guys is buckley's cough mixture all right for dxm. i got two of those. i got one robitussin with dxm as the only ingredient, plus this other one called dimetap which i got cos it's got two other ingredients which i didn't recognise as the dangerous ones.

anyway, if buckley's is all right i'll go over and buy some more but if not i will hunt out more robitussin cos i know it's all right.

what about that dimetap.

It would be nice if you just listed the ingredients, as there are variations and multiple kinds within brand.
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guys is buckley's cough mixture all right for dxm. i got two of those. i got one robitussin with dxm as the only ingredient, plus this other one called dimetap which i got cos it's got two other ingredients which i didn't recognise as the dangerous ones.

anyway, if buckley's is all right i'll go over and buy some more but if not i will hunt out more robitussin cos i know it's all right.

what about that dimetap.
You need to look at the active ingredients, because they're the ones that actually have an effect. If it has anything other than DXM, don't do it.

Also, read this, a very good guide on DXM in over-the-counter drugs. It'll tell you what to stay away from. Be careful though, because it's slightly out of date. Always check the ingredients.

If you're talking about "Dimetapp DM Elixir" which is listed on there:

by A.H. Robins Consumer
Active Ingredients (per teaspoonful/5mL):
Brompheniramine Maleate 2mg,
Phenylpropanolamine HCl 12.5mg,
DXM HBr 10mg."

Apparently Phenylpropanolamine was removed from over-the-counter drugs in 2005 so this is obviously out of date, so tell us what the ingredients are.


By the way, "which i got cos it's got two other ingredients which i didn't recognise as the dangerous ones." is a very bad thought process. Don't take anything you don't recognise just because nobody has said it is dangerous. If you don't know what it does, leave it alone.
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all right thanks for that.

i suppose i should say that i wasn't by any means intending to down a bottle of dimetapp dm elixir on the basis that i didn't see any red cards on the label. i just got it because i didn't think i'd have another chance to go to a pharmacy and i have alot of dollars left.

it seems buckley's is all right - the only active ingredient is dxm.

i'll read that link.
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Yeah just as long as DXM is the ONE AND ONLY active ingredient, you're straight. If you feel like you don't wanna move at all while you're coming up, just get as close to the ground as possible and have a handy puke bucket nearby. Some people do, some people don't and you won't know which you are until you actually do it of course.
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You did not imagine it!

http://www.cancerpage.com/news/article.asp?id=410

Cool thanks for this

Man I don't know why they're always like "perhaps a treatment could be developed without the high of marijuana" - like ho noes we want to make you feel better but not feel THAT good - of course these are probably people who don't even masturbate, if that's actually a legitimate concern of theirs

If I was in charge I'd just get rid of the memory effects and nothing else
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Another pretty interesting read from the LA Times on weed (and it's use by cancer patients). Reminds me a bit of Weeds, hehe.
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Another pretty interesting read from the LA Times on weed (and it's use by cancer patients). Reminds me a bit of Weeds, hehe.
best part of the article was when the son showed the mom how to use a carb rofl
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best part of the article was when the son showed the mom how to use a carb rofl

Hahah, yeah, that was a cool mother-son moment.

It's good to see weed actually helping people though, although it's not too crazy to see how I use it for medicating purposes in my own life. I have a bunch of mental issues including anxiety, occasional psychosis, heavy depersonalization and more that I keep under control with the help of various 'self-medications', including exercise, being social as much as possible and doing things like smoking weed. Regardless of what people have said about weed 'unlocking' mental problems including schizophrenia and psychosis I've found it invaluable to help me through some tougher times, as well as being great fun with friends and on a night in playing games and making music.

I've certainly had a newfound appreciation for MJ in the past 6 months or so, and although I'm not going to go and recommend it to everyone it's certainly been a factor in me improving my quality of life.

Also, since my SSRI dosage has been lowered a little I think I'm going to try a low dosage of DXM sometime between the new years and when I start my new job on January 7th, so I'll post a report if it's of any worth. 
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so i was at a beer tasting (read: everyone getting fucked up like regular, only on expensive, high-gravity beers) and apparently no one else there knew what salvia was, so i said 'WELL THE SMOKE SHOP IS DOWN THE STREET LET'S GO GET SOME'

so like five of us rolled in there, obviously inebriated, and i tried my best to look sober and asked "do you guys by any chance carry salvia divinorum extract?" and the girl working there immediately said 'nope'.

was she lying and if so what could i have done better.
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she wasnt lying. she would definetly show you it if she had it. I doubt convenience store owners hide salvia in secret just for select customers. lol. I know 3 convenience stores around my area that sell 30x-40x-60x extracts. and theres one that doesnt but the guy quickly said no when i asked him if he had any
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Devnore, please dont EVER use copper or tin foil (or a plastic pen for that matter). You can get a bong about as high as that coke bottle for 9$ at most head shops. You'll save more weed, and will have better tasting, cleaner hits.
That's actually no very true.  YES, you can get cheap pipes and bowls, but, I've mastered the art of making bowls out of tin foil.  You need to make sure the tin foil you are using has NO non slip shit all over it.  Get the old style, which sometimes is a little bit harder to come by then and actual pipe.

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she wasnt lying. she would definetly show you it if she had it. I doubt convenience store owners hide salvia in secret just for select customers. lol. I know 3 convenience stores around my area that sell 30x-40x-60x extracts. and theres one that doesnt but the guy quickly said no when i asked him if he had any
Well I know around here (Ohio) some head shops refer to Salvia as "incense" and you have to make NO mention of smoking it.

Its also the same as sweet grass, I buy that shit by the pound.  It doesn't get you high or anything, but it actually sooths your longs and is a great buffer and alternative to cigarettes when you're in between smoking a bowl of pot or two.

Anyway, shops don't generally lie about what they have in stock, unless you're going to a bodega, so I'm pretty sure in they were either out, or just don't carry it.

besides, saliva... why?
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A question for you marijuana users. (just read the last paragraph if you don't feel like reading)

Last night I tried smoking pot for the first time out of curiosity. It was killing me not knowing what being "high" was all about and why it was so good so I tried it out with a couple of buddies. Smoked a joint of 1 gram I think, quick as hell. My buddies were proud of me saying I was doing it faster than the veterans. I didn't feel anything at all, all I noticed was that my buddies were acting like complete morons and I think it would be safe to say that from my perspective they were in a state of complete retardation. So I took a few more hits from my friends joints who couldn't finish. I did not enjoy the smoking part at all, I did it quick, coughed a lot and it even burnt my throat.

So we were walking around and I could definitely tell my friends were high but all I noticed was that the color of everything quickly shifted to a red tint and came back to normal. I was very nervous, shaky, and spitting a lot and my heart rate was increasing steadily. Than on the way back to my friends house things got a little weird, we were walking and  I was looking for his house. It seemed it was still like 10 houses down but after we walked by the next house we came to his. My friend mentioned that this happened  to him too after it did. We walked in and I started to feel like I was becoming retarded. Things were going really slow for me and my friends were walking faster than me. One of them said I was doing everything in slow motion which was how I felt. Than we went upstairs which is when things really got fucked. I started to say the most stupidest shit and laughed at the most stupidest shit. My words felt like they were disappearing as I had said them or like I was talking and I couldn't hear myself. The volume of things was changing constantly and when it changed on the tv I got mad at my buddy because I thought it was him. From my friends perspective I was completely fucked and out of it. I realized why they were saying this too because to me it looked like most of them were really calm where as I was kinda hyper and talking a lot. Talking and laughing with my buddies is what I most enjoyed. If I wasn't talking or listening to music I felt like I wasn't even high. I went to the washroom  and my eyes were completely blood shot. However, while in the washroom I felt normal as I ever did like the high had gone away. Quickly went back to my buddies and my high came back.

So thats what I enjoyed about it. Although I did slightly enjoy being able to talk to my friends freely without any worries there was a lot I didn't enjoy. I felt like my intelligence was wearing away and I was becoming mentally ill. I was worried that I would never be smart again, that my grades in school would drop. Coupled with this was the constant paranoia. Whenever someone came in I thought it was my buddies parents. The door bell rang for pizza and I yelled out "Oh shit the cops are coming". Shadows were moving behind like someone was trying to hit me. I kept feeling like my friends were right by my shoulder but they were much farther away. This made me really uncomfortable.

Overall it was not what I was expecting. I thought I was gona feel really good, and according to my research I should have right? Many times I have seen that one of the effects of marijuana is a feeling of euphoria. To me euphoria sounds like a happy word, I was expecting to be dancing on rainbows and having a conversation with the happy sun. However I did not feel anything to this effect, in fact I did not experience any feelings at all only my environment was changing and I was not able to control what I had said.

So from my one experience with marijuana  I can say that it has benefited my in these way: It cured my headaches which I had been having in the evening for the whole break. It killed my social anxiety and allowed me to talk freely. And lastly, it allowed me to bond with my friends in a way I had never before. I hope my description will help cure the curiosity of some people who just read this thread out interest like I did when I was bored.


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Was I suppose to feel good? Because I did not, during most of the trip my stomach felt kinda sick and the things that were happening around me made me uncomfortable but thats it. Also, on a scale from one to ten how high was I from my descriptions. Other things that happened: It seemed like my friends were teleporting from one place to another when I did not see them walking to that placed. When we watched evolution of dance I sang along to every song. I stood up and sat down quickly. Expierenced short term memory loss. Could not grasp how fast time was going. Had a permanent smile on my face. My attention span was at its lowest level, when one of my friends got off his high he started talking all this technical crap and I could not follow what he was saying I could hardly pay for my pizza too because I was having trouble figuring out if I was getting ripped off or not. And when I was feeling tired and normal again I went to sleep but it felt like I was high again. I took 3 naps and all times it felt like I was high. So from 1-10.. how high? And was I suppose to feeling noticeably happy?
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you definitely dont trip from marijuana unless it is laced with something

which it likely wasnt
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@ crash: it seems you just thought too much during your marijuana high. if you're a rookie and you get very high you might start thinking about certain effects and as a result you percieve that effect as much stronger than it actually is.

that is a very normal phenomena among drug users, especially when trying something for the first time, or doing a much stronger dose than they're used to. I've experienced similar shit on hash and 2c-b, but never to that degree.

every effect you mention does sound familiar with random shit I've experienced on hash and marijuana so yeah, your shit wasnt laced (im saying wasnt because the lacing is a myth and rarely occurs, only when experienced people ask for their dealer to do it).

anyway yeah, if you get way too high your first time it can be a pretty strong experience, and the fact that your brain (as in, your thinking part, or your conscience) has nothing to compare it to might make it a bit more confusing or intense than it should be.



also i wouldnt call that a trip. if you thought that was a strong experience you should do a hallucinogen. that shit is WEEEIRD, but in a way it kinda slams you in the face and lets your brain know what tripping is really like.

no offence but im honestly getting sick of people smoking hash for the first, second or third time going completely bananas and doing weird shit just because they've thought their way to being really high and doing ridiculous shit and being very attentionseeking.  >8(
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Bujiro: You are a master of killing your own brain cells. Smoking out of tin foil is VERY bad for you and will lead to brain diseases like parkinson's and alzheimer's. I used to also master the art of tinfoil and even the aluminum can, but they're both horribly unhealthy for you. And the plastic pen too. They will release hazardous particles when they're heated that you're going to be inhaling directly into your lungs. Even the absolute cheapest pipes (probably 2-3$ for a bat or one hitter) and bongs (5-6$) are made of proper materials for safe smoking. My fist high was on an aluminum foil pipe, so i know as well as you that they work, but its just plane toxic.

crash02: First time I got high, It wasn't the best experience either. Sounds to me like you were EXTREMELY high 7/10 at least. And since you never experienced it before the effects must have seem magnified. Paranoia, forgetfulness, inability to focus, sudden feelings of confusion, laughing at something you normally wouldn't, all normal. They're not near as present if you don't smoke as much, though. I've smoked for many years but when I do, its just till I'm pretty buzzed. It widely varies how much people like to smoke on average. Seems to me like if you're still interested in getting high, you should try not getting as stoned out of your mind, and just go for a good buzz. When your friends start to tell you you're smoking fiercer than veterans, STOP! XD
After a certain frequency, people build up a tolerance to it. What looks like a lot to your friends (if they smoke often), would be WAY too much for you. It's hard to gauge how high you'll get because you'll smoke from different devices, with different weed, and different sized hits each time. Also your body could be more/less effected by it than your friends, so everyone smoking equal amounts would have a different effect for each. Also, factors like how you're feeling, your mood, and any other drugs/chemicals in your body will also affect how high you'll feel. Try smoking only half as much as your buddies do next time, and see how it is.
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Also, if you don't like smoking from a cigarette, try to smoke from a bowl or pipe, because smoking from a cig always makes me nauseus.

Next time you smoke marijuana, just take a few puffs and sit back and listen to some music, you will find it to be very relaxing.
Then from that start working up your dose, but just like any drug, start slow.
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from 3 days ago, ive stopped smoking weed. not due to new years resolution or nething, but due to my increased paranoia/ lack of memory when i am on it.

i went to a house party, took my shoes off by the door, stayed fora few hours, and they were 'gone' (well to me they were) i started getting panicky, then said fuck it, if sumones stolen ma shoes, i've gota spare pair in the car.

so i left the house party, without my shoes. turns out next day, i get a phone call from the house owner, i put my shoes underneath the piano by the side of the door which i entered throu, i had just completely forgot because i was far to kained to remember, and far too paranoid to try and think about the situation logically.

+it makes me cough up loads of phlegm, is reasonably expensive for what it is, and give me a bad cough if i smoke too much.

for me now, its only nicotine.