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Bujiro: You are a master of killing your own brain cells. Smoking out of tin foil is VERY bad for you and will lead to brain diseases like parkinson's and alzheimer's. I used to also master the art of tinfoil and even the aluminum can, but they're both horribly unhealthy for you. And the plastic pen too. They will release hazardous particles when they're heated that you're going to be inhaling directly into your lungs. Even the absolute cheapest pipes (probably 2-3$ for a bat or one hitter) and bongs (5-6$) are made of proper materials for safe smoking. My fist high was on an aluminum foil pipe, so i know as well as you that they work, but its just plane toxic.
Haha.  I work with metal and steel all day, I know that health risks that can and will happen.  I have plenty of glass and brass pieces to smoke from, i just because a goddamned Mcguyver when i smoke.  Aluminum doesn't even melt until it reaches some where close to 1200 degrees Fahrenheit (I know this because i just made a shit load of aluminum and lead hammers for my shop).  And Butane Lighters usually never reach past 600 degrees (regular bic lighters normally only get to about 435, Tested at work with Lead Heat Markers, ask me more about them and I'll go into detail).

Aluminum Foil with plastic shit, non stick shit, wax paper, ect, is VERY hazardous to smoke out of, because that shit burns up very quickly and you will be inhaling it strait to the lungs, that's why i said old style tin foil (its hard to find, but they still make non stick type that are coated with ABSOLUTELY NOTHING).

I understand your concern, though, and I'm not trying to talk you down or anything, but I work around metal all day long so I kind of have an idea of what I'm talking about in this regard.

When it comes to smoking out of pop cans, i have never tried because of the fact that I do not drink soda, its bad for you, lawls.
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Also, if you don't like smoking from a cigarette, try to smoke from a bowl or pipe, because smoking from a cig always makes me nauseus.

Next time you smoke marijuana, just take a few puffs and sit back and listen to some music, you will find it to be very relaxing.
Then from that start working up your dose, but just like any drug, start slow.


Yeah, this is good advice. If your friends are more experienced (and decent cooks) get them to try to make cakes, rissoles, brownies, tea (with MJ butter) or something similar. If they're crap at cooking try Leary Biscuits, which are easy and work fairly well if you've got weed to spare.

The important thing is just to start slow - you sound like you got way too high which was probably no fault of your own, just keep it in mind if you try it again. I noticed a lot of similar feelings to what you felt when I'm really high so take that as you'd like.
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Haha.  I work with metal and steel all day, I know that health risks that can and will happen.  I have plenty of glass and brass pieces to smoke from, i just because a goddamned Mcguyver when i smoke.  Aluminum doesn't even melt until it reaches some where close to 1200 degrees Fahrenheit (I know this because i just made a shit load of aluminum and lead hammers for my shop).  And Butane Lighters usually never reach past 600 degrees (regular bic lighters normally only get to about 435, Tested at work with Lead Heat Markers, ask me more about them and I'll go into detail).

Aluminum Foil with plastic shit, non stick shit, wax paper, ect, is VERY hazardous to smoke out of, because that shit burns up very quickly and you will be inhaling it strait to the lungs, that's why i said old style tin foil (its hard to find, but they still make non stick type that are coated with ABSOLUTELY NOTHING).

I understand your concern, though, and I'm not trying to talk you down or anything, but I work around metal all day long so I kind of have an idea of what I'm talking about in this regard.

When it comes to smoking out of pop cans, i have never tried because of the fact that I do not drink soda, its bad for you, lawls.

Doesn't have to hit the melting point to release hazardous particles, and any sort of scraping/scratches/tears will increase this. There's a reason they dont sell aluminum / plastic pipes. If you have access to metals you should be able to make a very simple steel or copper bat or pipe. Even someone without your knowledge of metals could easily buy a metal tube with a large opening at one side, and put a screen in it to make it a bat, or put a bend in it and make it a pipe. With your skills I'm sure you could could make a bong out of aluminum, and just make the stem out of a steel tube.
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Doesn't have to hit the melting point to release hazardous particles, and any sort of scraping/scratches/tears will increase this. There's a reason they dont sell aluminum / plastic pipes. If you have access to metals you should be able to make a very simple steel or copper bat or pipe. Even someone without your knowledge of metals could easily buy a metal tube with a large opening at one side, and put a screen in it to make it a bat, or put a bend in it and make it a pipe. With your skills I'm sure you could could make a bong out of aluminum, and just make the stem out of a steel tube.
Oh no, I would never use anything from my shop to smoke out of at all, period.  99% of that stuff was cut with while coolants were being used on them, and coolants are PROVEN to cause kidney failure just by absorption through the skin (by small cuts, ect ect).  Hazardous vapors in kitchen grade aluminum are far to low to cause any damage at all, the grade of alloy they use on cans is much to refined for anything long term effects.  the only things that could cause any kind of "damage" would be the ink on the outer part of the can. 
When it comes to making pipes, most people usually only have house hold equipment, so i doubt they are going to run out to home depot or forest city and purchase metal piping just to smoke.

and they DO sell aluminum pips for kitchen wear for businesses, I know, because I've been renovating a coffee house in down town cleveland, pretty much EVERYTHING from table tops, to tubing is aluminum or alloyed with aluminum.   IT is honestly, quite harmless.  Nothing hazardous, like lead, would even make it near the market now-a-days, do to law suits, smokers could sue companies saying that the can never had a "DO NOT SMOKE FROM THIS" printed on them, thus cause a frivolous law suit.

Another point is you use Aluminum foil to cook baked potatoes in the oven, on some aluminum foil containers it actually has instructions printed on the box.  If the product was harmful, you would still be ingesting the same shit into your body, this time through your digestive system, instead of your lungs.

So honestly, stop freaking out about the home made pipes, seriously though stop being cheap bastards and go buy a real one, you only should use home made ones (using tin foil, cans, ect) if you are in a serious bind.

But, that is also why I always keep rolling papers on me as well.
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When it comes to making pipes, most people usually only have house hold equipment, so i doubt they are going to run out to home depot or forest city and purchase metal piping just to smoke.

Most people who smoke weed are knowledgeable enough to spend a few dollars at home depot for a foot or two of metal/PVC piping, because most people have seen actual smoking devices and know that it shouldn't look like it was made in prison. Aluminum should only be used in desperation, and only temporarily. Even papers are better (though more wasteful). And I'm sorry, but heating aluminum foil in a conventional oven isn't comparable to the heat of a direct flame.
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You guys might find this interesting.  It's from the book called Naked Chocolate, which is all about the history of chocolate and then all about what is in raw chocolate in terms of vitamins, minerals, and chemicals, and then has 60 recipes using raw cacao.  But they talk about Cacao and drug use.  Some of you might already know this stuff.

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Yeah, this is good advice. If your friends are more experienced (and decent cooks) get them to try to make cakes, rissoles, brownies, tea (with MJ butter) or something similar. If they're crap at cooking try Leary Biscuits, which are easy and work fairly well if you've got weed to spare.

The important thing is just to start slow - you sound like you got way too high which was probably no fault of your own, just keep it in mind if you try it again. I noticed a lot of similar feelings to what you felt when I'm really high so take that as you'd like.

Uh, you do know that putting it in baked goods actually INCREASES the potency of thc. Not really the best advice to someone who is first starting.
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Uh, you do know that putting it in baked goods actually INCREASES the potency of thc. Not really the best advice to someone who is first starting.

How does it increase the potency of the thc?
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Smoke a joint or blunt one day. and the next day eat a weed brownie that's actually prepared correctly. Post your results.
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That was a pretty interesting read doktormartini.

I know a few people that like to eat chocolate and mushrooms together, they do believe it affects the trip in a very positive way and I believe it. I always feel pretty good about an hour or two after consuming chocolate, and I've considered chocolate a psychoactive for a while now.
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Smoke a joint or blunt one day. and the next day eat a weed brownie that's actually prepared correctly. Post your results.

I don't smoke weed often, rarely ever. But I was more asking for some hard science as opposed to anecdotal nonsense. Even if the baking releases more THC and thus gets you higher, that doesn't mean the THC is "more potent," only that you've consumed more.
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That was a pretty interesting read doktormartini.

I know a few people that like to eat chocolate and mushrooms together, they do believe it affects the trip in a very positive way and I believe it. I always feel pretty good about an hour or two after consuming chocolate, and I've considered chocolate a psychoactive for a while now.
theres a lot of people here who actually like.. dip their shrooms in melted chocolate because they cant handle the flavor of the mushrooms straight up heh
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I'd say it's more concentrated, maybe not more potent excuse me. But either way, brownies fuck you up more and last a hell of a lot longer than just smoking a joint. Hardly, once again, good advice for someone who is just starting to smoke or whatever. Or maybe not, maybe the person is just ballsy and doesn't give a fuck. I don't know. If you're interested in hard science, go search for some hard science because I only know how to abuse the drug to my liking. ;D
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That was a pretty interesting read doktormartini.

I know a few people that like to eat chocolate and mushrooms together, they do believe it affects the trip in a very positive way and I believe it. I always feel pretty good about an hour or two after consuming chocolate, and I've considered chocolate a psychoactive for a while now.
Well the book talks about the chemicals in chocolate.  It says the cacao plant is the only other plant known to have Cannabinoids in it.  There is also Anandamide in chocolate which gives you the feeling of Bliss.

David Wolfe (one of the authors) is good on this subject.  In the video I'm posting, he talks about Superfoods and a lot about chocolate.  He says you can basically get a "high" off of raw chocolate and it's not one where you get high and feel great and come down and feel like shit it's one where you get high and feel great and you can stay high by eating certain foods (lol chocolate) and to top it off it's actually good for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xso1ZqqQRoM (this video also has a lot of other stuff so be don't derail the topic lol)

I'm trying to find some more but most I find talk about the nutritional aspects.  But if anyone is interested:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U90-FK0sePg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQQe2HDz03c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LbdwGa3C4k&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuDjHnhRAj4&feature=related
I advise people to watch these last three interview videos about chocolate.  A lot of it is about it's nutritional value but he also talks about how it makes you feel good (Dopamine) and shit.  It's interesting.  Also, www.naked-chocolate.com

This is also from the same book:

Also I'm drinking Chamomile tea mixed with raw cacao right now.

Edit:  Haha, remember when I used to be an anti-drug faggot and now I'm posting stuff like this! I still don't do drugs though and probably will never do them.
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Hey man, if you can find a legal way to expand your perception and open your mind, then more power to ya.
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ahhh something in that little snippet reminded me of a drug I've done before

has anyone else here had the opportunity to try kava? Its not really like a strong drug or anything, but I find the experience when mixed with other drugs or even just cigarettes can be extremely enjoyable, and the sensations last a really long time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kava
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one where you get high and feel great and come down and feel like shit
As opposed to the very few substances that make you feel like this? Most drugs don't have a bad comedown at all.


Edit:  Haha, remember when I used to be an anti-drug faggot and now I'm posting stuff like this! I still don't do drugs though and probably will never do them.
I have a lot of friends who are very anti-drug but know a lot of shit about dopamine and serotonin and how certain drugs affect you. I don't think this is a big deal :/


But yeah otherwise good posting.
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As opposed to the very few substances that make you feel like this? Most drugs don't have a bad comedown at all.
I guess I was referring to the hard drugs like meth, cocaine, and heroin where you feel like shit until you get high again (Cause you are addicted). 
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So I have some acid and I was waiting for something to do with it but everyone bailed on me for tommorow, so I am just doing it now at home. I don't want to wait till next weekend and risk it going bad. What are some fun things to do, because this kind of feels like a waste, but I'd rather trip at home than not at all!