Topic: Dumbledore is gay O_O (Read 7114 times)

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I'm taking my views from my (limited) education in Humanities. It's like a poem; once it's published, practically everyone has a similar, but very different interpretation of the poem. The author's original intent in the poem IS his/her interpretation. When the author announces the original intent of the poem, which is therefore his/her personal interpretation, he/she is closing the perspectives/imaginations of a significant portion of the audience. Again, the book-to-movie metaphor makes sense here.

It doesn't really matter, yet paradoxically it matters a great deal. The writing loses a great deal of depth when a writer superimposes formerly subtle facts. It's a good thing she did so now rather than earlier though; at least a great number of people have long finished the books, and had their interpretations untouched (except from the mediocre-passable movies). I mean come on, knowing Dumbledore is gay it would be significantly harder to read his scenes without imagining him with the old pedo's voice from Family Guy, wouldn't it?
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JK Rowling is a known worldbuilder; she thought of this years ago. It would have been extremely hard to fit this fact into the book, given the "SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE" crisis of the last book and the inevitable anti-LGBT backlash.
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I've never read a Harry Potter book and I've only seen the first two movies on ABC Family, but I could tell that it was the role of Dumbledore not to have interest in women. I didn't consider to take it a step further but in any case if you really look at characters you'll find that unwritten details are just as important as those on paper. If this was a discussion on if he was gay or not and we didn't hear from Rowling, I'm sure there would be more evidence to consider that he was gay than had no preference at all, let alone being straight.

To the argument of why she did said it in the first place, I don't believe that her main objective was for more money, more press or more fame. I believe those may do figure into it, but I believe that she did it for her fans. Crazy I know...but her main readers are children and the series is about growing up and facing your destiny. Why not make one of the most memorable, intellectual and powerful characters gay when gay is more often frowned upon by the higher-ups in real life? She had also stated that the series is to promote the political idea of not trusting the higher-ups. Real-life higher-ups are, more than not, saying that gay is wrong yet in this book you learn more about life and getting though personal struggles from a gay man than anything my parents have yet to say. This idea that the one you turn for help is not always the one who says "Do not because of how it is", but the one who says "Go and understand for yourself" because they followed the same wisdom. This is a powerful statement to children, or anyone for that matter, living in a world thats teetering back and fourth on the political and social issue of being gay.

Seriously, anyone really think about it?
Last Edit: October 23, 2007, 12:45:44 pm by Ratt
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My girlfriend is a HUGE fan of the series, and is totally in love with Dumbledore.  She got me into the series, though I wouldn't say I'm any more than an average fan of it.  Anyway, when she got the news that he was gay, she was really excited and loves him even more now. 

I wonder now what parents are doing about this.  The anti-gay ones, I mean.  Are they going to pull these books from their kids' shelves and throw away the DVDs?  Are they going to tell their kids that they can't read the books? 

JK Rowling is fucking awesome. 
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i concur with Xangui completely. well except the part about having a girlfriend who loves the hp series
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I wonder now what parents are doing about this.  The anti-gay ones, I mean.  Are they going to pull these books from their kids' shelves and throw away the DVDs?  Are they going to tell their kids that they can't read the books?
My thought is if they are anti-gay enough to break down the walls, there is a good chance they are anti-magic and already did.
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Whoa COVER YOUR BUM HARRY.

Nah, in all fairness I haven't read any of the Harry Potter books, mostly because I'm an adult and shit (and also a LITERACYFASCIST), but I was pretty surprised about this. It's impossible to not know who Dumbledore is and shit, so for Rowling to make such a well known character gay...wow.

Has anyone seen the Sarah Silverman show? Insanely funny, but also really fucking brave. It has two gay characters who're pretty much normal dudes - they're hairy, huge and fat, they smoke pot and say shit like "I'm totally gay for you dude" followed by that cool bro' fist touching thing. Having gay characters in media who aren't total queermos is pretty brave as the general rule seems to be "If they aren't screaming then they're boring!!!".

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i dunno man. retroactively writing a sexually ambiguous character as gay doesn't strike me as a great blow.

then again reporting it probably does because now little kids have awkward questions about what a gay is and how does Dumbledore be one???
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then again reporting it probably does because now little kids have awkward questions about what a gay is and how does Dumbledore be one???

Hilarious and probably true. Little kids will refer to cool things as "gay".  :woop:
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i find this topic to be rather disheartening. i agree with the people who think that this was just to develop more interest in the book.

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I never really liked harry potter much. I read the first book back in 6th grade, and after that my interest pretty much was gone in the series. I know people who sit around at my junior college and read fan fiction about harry potter all day between their classes.

but yeah overanalyzing a children's fantasy series is pretty sad, i'll have to agree. to each their own I guess.

Also, Faust, the Sarah Silverman show is pretty cool in that regard. they're really cool characters.
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Anyway, when she got the news that he was gay, she was really excited and loves him even more now.

but sadly, he will never be able to return those feelings.... ..
Last Edit: October 24, 2007, 10:32:38 pm by Jordan Collier
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you know one thing that bothers me is this Rita Skeeter woman is supposed to be a great reporter and she finds out Dumbledore was friends with a monster and all this shit that no one knows but never once catches a glimpse of him being gay.

that's kind of weird.
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maybe the quick quotes quill isnt sensative to sexual orientation
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Dumbledore's gay for Snape.
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probably being gay isnt that big of a deal in the wizarding world. and hp isnt really a childrens series, but i guess its kind of marketed as such. but it really isnt, at least not after the 2nd book? 3rd? idk. i know my parents both love the books and so do a lot of other parents i know, the ones who arent all "nono magic is the devil." which i think is lame

also. If you havent read the books you really should seeing as how theyre really popular

its like never seeing star wars. personally i think star wars sucks. ya i know rite. but ive seen em because theyre classics. but hey if you dont like hp then its all cool. go agains the crowd its waht the books are all about eh!!

also that was so great veiraza
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Little kids will refer to cool things as "gay".  :woop:
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you know one thing that bothers me is this Rita Skeeter woman is supposed to be a great reporter and she finds out Dumbledore was friends with a monster and all this shit that no one knows but never once catches a glimpse of him being gay.

Off topic and totally pointless, but in the books Hermione always refers to Skeeter as "that Rita Skeeter woman" so I think it's funny that readers would say that too.

I am not a fan of Harry Potter, but the books were thoroughly enjoyable. I think this is silly.

probably being gay isnt that big of a deal in the wizarding world. and hp isnt really a childrens series, but i guess its kind of marketed as such. but it really isnt, at least not after the 2nd book? 3rd? idk. i know my parents both love the books and so do a lot of other parents i know, the ones who arent all "nono magic is the devil." which i think is lame

also. If you havent read the books you really should seeing as how theyre really popular

Harry Potter is DEFINITELY a children's series, regardless of who reads it.
Last Edit: October 26, 2007, 02:01:31 am by Girl Bones
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My first thought was this---

Dumbledore, bed-ridden by the wizalope flu, splutters a moment before turning his half-conscious eyes toward Harry Potter. His voice ragged from hours of demanding coughing and vomit aplenty. Reaching with a whithered hand, he wheezes, "Grab my wand, Harry. Just once before I die..."
Befuddled at seeing his mentor in such a decaying state, Harry searched hurriedly about, only to give up. "Where did you leave it, Professor?"
"Here, Potter. It's here in my pocket." Another of his wrinkled hands held wide his robe pocket, the depth of which masked by a shadow. Harry eagerly reached for it. After a moment of blind questing, his fingers wrapped around a warm rod.
"It's stuck," Harry announced, tugging fruitlessly.
"Gentle, Harry... You may rip my robes--- That's the way."

(BTW I'm a Potterfan too)
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I'm not sure it's an attention grab MORE MONEY THAN THE QUEEN but more of a detail that probably existed but was really so insignificant that it's not reflected at all.

or it might not have even existed.

that's how weak it was!
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