guys obama is still projected to win south carolina. nevada is up for grabs but this is by no means over. obama still has boatloads of money.

God I hope you're right. Seriously, I have a feeling this country's going to shit if she wins. Something about her just makes me cringe. I think it's an omen.

Well, the prophecy states that the anti-christ will bring peace for 4 years and 2012 is the Mayan apocalypse...

On a serious note, for once in my life I am on the verge of being incredibly sexist with this years polls.  I saw a youtube video were someone heckled Clinton saying things like "IRON MY SHIRT" and I laughed.  She is basically banking on the fact that she has a vagina + ovaries which makes her the mother of America.  The fact that she broke down CRIED only seals this deal.  

If Barrack had cried, the voters would see it as weakness and he would have been publicly humiliated for the rest of his life.  Because Clinton, a woman, cried everyone sees this as something tender and sweet and are voting out of sympathy.

I can't honestly say I know what the hell people voting Clinton are thinking, but I don't want a leader who cracks under pressure.  Bush is probably the most idiotic president this country has ever had but at least the fucker didn't BAAAAAAAAW when something failed to go his way.

hillary's stealing my games..

also, what's McCain like? I'm under the impression he's the best out of the republicans?
Just by first impression I think I'd rather have him than Hillary, but I may be so wrong, I dunno, just ranting air

-ya he is
-probably not, he's still a republican only more human regarding things like immigration and torture. I wouldn't hate having him as president but I probably wouldn't vote for him either

hillary was for the iraq war though so idk

EDIT

man you are an idiot

because she has success in another state it must mean it's because THE BITCH cried


EDIT I'm watching hillary's speech right now, it's so bad

man you are an idiot

because she has success in another state it must mean it's because THE BITCH cried

I'm pretty mad I just lost the link but I was reading over this British news article that went IN DEPTH on how, for the past 50 years, candidates have won over New Hampshire due to emotional break down.  In 2004, Kerry started crying when a NH woman told him her life story and he won the state in a landslide.  In the 70s, some politician defended his wife's honor by attacking a newspaper that made fun of her.  In his debate, he whiped a "snowflake" out of his eye (was actually a tear) and was torn apart.

I've got to find that link again because I stumbled over it on accident and I have my history folders cleaned out automatically.

I actually think there's some merit to a joke someone on SA made about all the misogny and shit that people use against Hillary backfiring (CUNT BITCH etc) and getting a lot more votes.

I mean Obama was projected with double digit victory, and this is clearly not.

yeah i think all the backlash she received for crying or tearing up or whatever helped her out

I'm pretty mad I just lost the link but I was reading over this British news article that went IN DEPTH on how, for the past 50 years, candidates have won over New Hampshire due to emotional break down.  In 2004, Kerry started crying when a NH woman told him her life story and he won the state in a landslide.  In the 70s, some politician defended his wife's honor by attacking a newspaper that made fun of her.  In his debate, he whiped a "snowflake" out of his eye (was actually a tear) and was torn apart.

I've got to find that link again because I stumbled over it on accident and I have my history folders cleaned out automatically.

haha what are you talking about

first post you were like 'slut/whore only won because shes a woman and she cried no man could pull this off...' now you are talking about kerry huh ?

I am No Man --John Kerry

I think he's saying that New Hampshire's votes are easily swung by drama

*cries softly* will u... let me be ur president... plz... i cant take any more of this *SOB*

I think he's saying that New Hampshire's votes are easily swung by drama

This is exactly what I'm saying.  Hilary won specifically because she acted like a drama queen.

i sincerely doubt that is why she won.

i mean, it's not like her campaign knew that if she lost again it would be over at all AM I RITE.

ps they knew this and so they made sure they ensure a comeback.

HOW they pulled this off is beyond me but I don't think her crying mattered much.

Well shit Hillary won, dang I missed so much discussion.
And I KNEW people would try to pass of the crying thing as some sort of reason for her winning.

Oh and I had a heated discussion about Ron Paul with my friend today who almost tried to tell me that it shouldn't matter if he was a racist or not, I was nearly outraged, well not really I was too busy laughing at him. Then he went on to explain that the quotes were taken out of context. I told him how his position on domestic affairs were irresponsible, etc. I'm just interested in finding some more debate strategies against Paul since I didn't really convince my friend at all. Any suggestions?

btw Obama still is winning via delegates, which is what matters

Obama: 25
Clinton: 24
Edwards: 18

just a little fyi.

Well shit Hillary won, dang I missed so much discussion.
And I KNEW people would try to pass of the crying thing as some sort of reason for her winning.

Oh and I had a heated discussion about Ron Paul with my friend today who almost tried to tell me that it shouldn't matter if he was a racist or not, I was nearly outraged, well not really I was too busy laughing at him. Then he went on to explain that the quotes were taken out of context. I told him how his position on domestic affairs were irresponsible, etc. I'm just interested in finding some more debate strategies against Paul since I didn't really convince my friend at all. Any suggestions?

first criticize his economic policy; it won't take much to prove Paul loves the gold standard.

then tell him the following. MEMORIZE IT okay.

The US converting to a gold standard would require them to re-issue all currency in circulation as a fixed amount of gold. Since the US government doesn't have a lot of gold, it would mean a lot less currency. Thus, they would need to purchase gold — as a result, the price of gold would skyrocket. The US government would have to sell assets in order to purchase the now absurdly expensive gold, or run a deficit. Taxes would be forced to rise to finance this.

However, this would be pointless, since approximately 1 trillion dollars of goods flows out of the US economy every year. Thus, the economy would literally bled gold bullion. The only way to balance out is a recession, so deep and crippling, that it would eliminate the US trade deficit.

Okay, the regulatory mechanism for the gold standard works like this. Suppose we have two countries, A and B.

Now, for whatever reason, country A is on the gold standard. It doesn't matter what country B is on. Now, A and B buy and sell goods to one another. In order to buy and sell goods, the people in these countries need to purchase currency from one another to buy them.

When an economy buys things from another economy, they need to purchase money from the other economy to buy goods. So, for instance, country A needs to buy country B's currency (call it B$) to buy goods from country B. And vice versa.

Now, as they buy and sell, there usually will be an imbalance been how much people buy and sell in a given country. For instance, country A may be buying more from country B than it is selling. This leads to an imbalance in the currencies, because people in country A will be buying up B$ and selling A$. When it all comes out in the wash, there is a surplus of A$ on the market -- that is, the demand for A$ is lower than the amount supplied.

Now, people will work to correct this surplus, because it's pointless for them to have A$ sitting around no one wants to own. In a quasi-fiat system of freely traded currencies, the exchange rate does this. Bankers and financial dealers adjust the relative values of the currencies to make the "price" of A$ optimal. Currencies wax and wane in value based on their economies and variety of other complex mumbo jumbo which doesn't really matter here.

However, in the gold standard this doesn't happen, because A$ are linked to a fixed amount of gold -- that is, a commodity. Instead, people who hold A$ start redeeming them for gold, in order to sell them as a useful commodity. As a result, Country A's stockpile of gold, which they use to back their currency on, dwindles. In turn, the supply of money for country A falls.

Not enough money is circulation causes the economy to constrict, since doing basic business becomes increasingly difficult. It also can cause deflation, and a host of other problems. In short, the only way for A's domestic economy to come into equillibrium is for it to crash. Businesses shut down, and domestic demand for goods slows as the economy stalls.

While this is a bad thing, it does do one very good thing. If you have no money, because the economy is in recession, you can't very well afford to buy items from country B. Thus, the supply of A$ on the market falls, and people stop redeeming the excess for gold. The process brings the two markets into equilibrium again, and all is well in the world of international commerce.

Of course, the side effects are not exactly pleasant for people in country A.

then you need to slowly bring him around to the idea that 50 separate bureaucracies is not better than one, despite the rEVOLution. it'll take some work, but

http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2007/11/ron-pauls-record-in-congress.html

this combined with other links should do it.

edit apparently copy paste didnt work gimme a sec

One theory right now is that since the polls were so 15 POINT LEAD f*CK YEAH GUYS that a bunch of Independents figured Barack had NH in the bag and voted for Mccain/Paul (Although with Paul i guess it's not true because NINE PERCENT and whatnot).

But then again....

fuck John Edwards, fuck his stupid supporters who when I was holding a huge sign today tried to stand in front of me and block its view from the road and told me that they truly believed edwards had a chance to be president

they didn't like it too much when i told them their candidate would make a great AG.