Politics U.S Presidential Primary Thread (Read 20603 times)

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Richardson has dropped out.

Maybe his supporters will go to Obama?

i doubt it. he was humping clinton's leg pretty hard at the past few debates
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Edward wont drop out?

Given that situation, his supporters would rather vote who Hillary or Obama?
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Edward wont drop out?

Given that situation, his supporters would rather vote who Hillary or Obama?

definitely obama. edwards has been a pretty harsh critic of clinton and his positions and message are close to obamas
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hah, nice. I think Edwards should negotiate with Obama asap. If the Obama/Edwards formula is presented now, Obama should win by landslide.
But what do I know, I'm just thinking
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hah, nice. I think Edwards should negotiate with Obama asap. If the Obama/Edwards formula is presented now, Obama should win by landslide.
But what do I know, I'm just thinking

This would be pretty cool, but I think it's going to be a little while until Edwards drops out of the race.

poor man still thinks he has a chance
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edwards may drop out after nevada or south carolina if he doesn't get a first place.
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so after NH and some new polls I'm getting the feeling that Hillary will win!!
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I'm afraid that if Hillary wins, people will decide to vote for a republican in the end because they don't like her. Just like the 2004 elections.
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so after NH and some new polls I'm getting the feeling that Hillary will win!!

Don't say that...don't you dare say that.

I will shit myself if she wins. If you (and those polls) are right though, Edwards needs to get the fuck out of the race so Obama can kick some ass.

And fuck I was going to say something else but I forgot what. This is gonna bug me.

On a side note though, I was talking to some people at work today about the election and it's ridiculous how many people are either completely uninformed or close-minded. Some chick said she'd vote for Hillary because she'd be the first woman president and because that'd bring about change. When I asked her why she thought Hillary was qualified to lead, she didn't know a thing. She just said she wanted to see a woman in office.

Another woman said she would vote for anyone but Obama. After poking around a little and trying to figure out why, I came to the conclusion that she was racist (that and the fact that she's made racist comments before) and that there was no other reason. When I told her how I think he's one of the smartest men running and one of the most rational, she just replied with an "I don't care, I still wouldn't vote for him." This same girl got pissed off when I told her about New Hampshire and the crying thing and how I thought it was somewhat immature of Hillary to pull a stunt like that (because if you think about it, it's a disgrace to women and all they've accomplished thus far, intentional or not) and she got really defensive. She kept accusing me of being sexist and that I wouldn't vote for her just because she was a woman and not because I disagree with her policies. If Obama was a woman, he'd still get my vote because the man is so fucking inspirational it's unbelievable. I've hated politics until he stepped into the ring. His speeches preach hope and change, but they also inspire and make me believe that he can truly accomplish something and that is the only reason I care about politics right now. For once it doesn't seem like it's "oh hey, I'm going to vote for the lesser of two evils," as cliche as that may sound.

I'm glad these kinds of people don't vote (neither of them are going to from what they told me) but it makes me sad to think that there are people out there (and I know there are) who have no idea about the candidates and their positions, yet they still go out and pick someone because of something as stupid as "oh, Hillary's a woman and I want a female president" or "oh I'm not voting for him because he's black." (And of course, there's a flip side to that also, with sexist men not voting for Hillary and people voting for Obama just because he's black, but if you think about it, there are fewer people who belong in those categories than the former.) I mean, I'm not the most informed person by any means, but I have a general idea of what each candidate stands for and I feel like I know who would do a good job. Of course, it's all speculation on my part, but it's speculation formed by the knowledge at hand, not just a blind pick because of the candidate's gender or race.

Anyways, sorry for the rant. Just wanted to say that. Now I'm gonna go to Obama's site, donate some cash, and head off to bed.
Last Edit: January 10, 2008, 08:08:34 am by Sarhan
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what is your opinion that if obama gets the nomination, he's toast because of the perceived notion that the southern states won't vote for a black man who is often mistaken for a muslim?  i really want to know how likely this scenario is because i'd like to debunk the myth that everyone in the south is a bunch of racist hicks, as well as argue in favor of an extremely intelligent candidate who i have faith in and who would handle this country well, but i actually don't know if that's the way they'd vote!
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what is your opinion that if obama gets the nomination, he's toast because of the perceived notion that the southern states won't vote for a black man who is often mistaken for a muslim?  i really want to know how likely this scenario is because i'd like to debunk the myth that everyone in the south is a bunch of racist hicks, as well as argue in favor of an extremely intelligent candidate who i have faith in and who would handle this country well, but i actually don't know if that's the way they'd vote!

Oh I'm not saying he'll lose in the south because I think people there are racist. I'm not saying he'll lose in the south at all and frankly, I don't know enough to make a guess on how he'll do in the southern states, so I won't. Me pointing out the fact that she's from the south was somewhat irrelevant and misleading so I'll edit the post and get rid of that comment. And I do think that it's an unlikely scenario that Obama would lose because of the whole "southern people are racist" stereotype (or at least I'd like to think we've come along that far).

However, I still do think that there are more racist people than there are sexist men (not in the south, but the U.S. as a whole). I'm not saying it'll affect the race in either candidate's favor dramatically, but it will definitely affect the way people vote.
Last Edit: January 10, 2008, 08:21:18 am by Sarhan
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He'll lose in the south because people are rascist


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generally speaking the type of people who wouldn't vote for a  black guy tend not to be democrats themselves

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a lot of people vote without knowing much about the candidates

in the beginning my mom said she wouldn't vote for hillary because she doesn't think a woman would make a good president. now she's watching the debates and stuff though, but if we weren't here I don't think she would have

also yeah treg. there are some racist democrats that are really really messed up people (sister's boyfriend (I...I can save him..)) but they are such a minority that they don't matter
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Obama just got endorsed by John Kerry.
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Obama just got endorsed by John Kerry.
Poor guy.

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Obama just got endorsed by John Kerry.

Will that help him much?
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probably not. john kerry isn't really that influential. more importantly obama was also endorsed by the two largest Nevada unions
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seriously the best thing for the Obama camp right now

is either to win in SC or have Edwards wins. but if Hilary wins in SC man... its gonna be a long battle after that to regain the lost momentum

sigh. on a side note my hickass of a lab partner in biology today told me that everything about obama in that ridiculous chain letter was true and that I should move to Iran because I want to have a muslim with the middle name mohammad who wont say the pledge of allegiance. it took pretty much every fibre of my being (and the fact that he was a middle linebacker) to keep from punching him in the face
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seriously the best thing for the Obama camp right now

is either to win in SC or have Edwards wins. but if Hilary wins in SC man... its gonna be a long battle after that to regain the lost momentum

sigh. on a side note my hickass of a lab partner in biology today told me that everything about obama in that ridiculous chain letter was true and that I should move to Iran because I want to have a muslim with the middle name mohammad who wont say the pledge of allegiance. it took pretty much every fibre of my being (and the fact that he was a middle linebacker) to keep from punching him in the face

You should have punched his ignorant face regardless. I'd take a beating for it (probably not).

Man, I was so confident in Obama winning the Democratic nomination, but after the last few days, I'm not so sure he could pull it off.
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