Politics U.S Presidential Primary Thread (Read 20603 times)

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Hillary Clinton wins New Mexico:

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(CNN) — Hillary Clinton has officially won the New Mexico Democratic caucuses, more than a week after the state's February 5 Election Day.

After a nine-day vote count, Clinton now has one more delegate to add to her total. Clinton and Democratic rival Barack Obama were separated by just 1,709 votes — 73,105 for Clinton, 71,396 for Obama.
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Grrr! Come on Obama!
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wow, they were recounting that fucking long?

it's not much a victory but still, interesting.
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oh no the momentum is lost
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/02/14/ST2008021400104.html

he gets dismissed for not backing up his rhetoric (even though there are pages upon pages of shit on his website), and then when he finally comes out with a concrete, well-explained plan in front of everyone, all of a sudden it's plagiarism?

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I had a really strange dream last night. I dreamt I was watching TV, and some reporter invited both Obama and Clinton to take a walk around town together, just to be friendly to one another for the benefit of the Democratic party. Then they went into a subway of some sort, and suddenly the image turned to static for a moment. And then it turned out they both got blown up by a suicide bomber. But the reporter was still alive, and he was screaming HELP in slow-motion.
Last Edit: February 15, 2008, 07:17:27 am by Dada
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yeah they seem more prone to fanatic attacks or assasinations
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Obama now ahead in American Research poll in texas.
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Obama now ahead in American Research poll in texas.
Interesting. So what this tells us is that even if Clinton wins Texas, it probably won't be a very large victory.
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Has Wisconsin always favored Hillary? On that American Research website it's showing her ahead of Obama 50% to 41%. Since Obama has been campaigning there for the last few days, I thought he would be ahead.
Then again the survey was taken 7 days ago.
Also, some superdelegates are leaving Hillary and going for Obama now. Hillary seems so desperate now that she's put out 2 ads in Wisconsin attacking Obama. She also wants the Florida and Michigan delegates to count, even though she was the only person on the ballot in Michigan and Florida has been left out for a few months now. It's pretty obvious that she is going to do anything to win.
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Interesting. So what this tells us is that even if Clinton wins Texas, it probably won't be a very large victory.

It wouldn't be a large victory anyways as Texas actually has both a primary and a caucus on the same day, and the way delegates are awarded for the state is going to give just about everyone a damn headache trying to figure out the math.

In typical Texas contrarian fashion, the primary rules read like a DNA chart. On the Democratic side, 228 delegates are up for grabs. But it's not that simple.

The state has both a primary and a caucus -- on the same day. And you can't caucus unless you voted in the primary. On primary night, 126 delegates will be determined based on voting results in each Senate district.

The number of delegates in each district is based on how many Democrats voted in the last two general elections in that district. Got that? Well, there's more.

The selection of another 67 delegates will begin at the caucuses that night and culminate at the state convention in June. The remaining 35 delegates are some kind of unique political life form that will evolve into actual delegates at the National Convention later that summer.

It's quite weird, but I suppose the caucus part of it would greatly help Obama since he does extremely well in them.  So Obama actually could lose the popular vote and still walk away with more delegates if they are close in the primary.


Edit: Just read that Obama has gained the endorsements of two major labor unions in the last two days.  They represent a combined 3.2 million employees, and one of the heads of the unions is a super delegate who's now backing Obama. 

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The endorsement of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), which counts 1.9 million members in North America, came one day after the Illinois senator was endorsed by the 1.3 million-strong United Food and Commercial Workers (UFCW) union.
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Today, I asked my parents whom they voted for in the primaries. They said Clinton. I asked why not Obama?

My dad answered, "You think I would vote for someone called Hussein?"

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Are you fucking shitting me?

Then they both told me they don't think someone "of that race" should be President. "It gives a bad image to America"

this is translated from Polish to the best of my ability.

i always knew they were racists but I didn't think when I asked them "why don't you vote for Obama" that my dad would answer with "BECAUSE HE IS BLACK. This is a country of WHITE PEOPLE."


i wish i was making this up
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punhc him in the face

I'm serious.
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thanks, but i would like to continue allowing my parents to pay for my college tuition
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Ask for whatever rationale they could possibly have to justify that opinion.
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Today, I asked my parents whom they voted for in the primaries. They said Clinton. I asked why not Obama?

My dad answered, "You think I would vote for someone called Hussein?"

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Are you fucking shitting me?

Then they both told me they don't think someone "of that race" should be President. "It gives a bad image to America"

this is translated from Polish to the best of my ability.

i always knew they were racists but I didn't think when I asked them "why don't you vote for Obama" that my dad would answer with "BECAUSE HE IS BLACK. This is a country of WHITE PEOPLE."


i wish i was making this up

Just a tid bit of information I saw on cnn today; White people are only 47% population vs all the other races.
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don't ask them to change their mind about Obama, convince them McCain is terrible.
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my dad said something similar last week, "you can't have a president obama...can you?"
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