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This was my first time voting, and it was much simpler than I was expecting (all these florida horror stories). I went with Obama.
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NBC just projected Obama and McCain to win Maryland with significant margins
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yeah he got 68+% in both DC and Maryland (according to the interactive Yahoo primary map thingy)
Last Edit: February 13, 2008, 02:40:49 am by Wash Cycle
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according to cnn, obama has more total projected delegates than hillary
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oh my god Obama's speech in Wisconsin right now is giving me goosebumps
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This is pretty cool (sorry guys):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVKSfwfy0h8
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Ryan wins.
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This is pretty cool (sorry guys):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVKSfwfy0h8

no it's not. it's LYING. saying barack obama is not for ending the war on drugs or taking troops out of Iraq is a grave misstatement.

please don't do this again. your unique brand of blinded advocacy is usually entertaining but we're actually in primaries now and I've fully illustrated what a poor choice Ron Paul would be a page ago.
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oh my god Obama's speech in Wisconsin right now is giving me goosebumps
It was excellent dude. Maxed capacity 17k with overflow. The three hour wait was really worth it, there is just something really cool about seeing a president (nominee) in person. Hopefully I'll get to seem him after the nomination when he comes back.
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It was excellent dude. Maxed capacity 17k with overflow. The three hour wait was really worth it, there is just something really cool about seeing a president (nominee) in person. Hopefully I'll get to seem him after the nomination when he comes back.
oh shit i forgot you saw him in person! congrats to you! I wish i could have seen him a couple weeks ago when he was in MA :(
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This is pretty cool (sorry guys):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVKSfwfy0h8

Yeah, I'm gonna have to call bullshit on this one too.

http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7499 - Obama: "I think the war on drugs has been a failure, and I think we need to rethink and decriminalize our marijuana laws."
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/13/us/politics/13obama.html?_r=1&ref=politics&oref=slogin - Obama's extensive plan to wind down the war in Iraq
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I'M A DOCTOR I UNDERSTAND THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM

DOCTOR RONALD PAUL TO THE RESCUE
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This is pretty cool (sorry guys):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVKSfwfy0h8
Would you kindly stop propagating Paulite lies?

The video links to KnowBeforeYouVote.com which is the absolute most deceitful source of information on the entire internet when it comes to the elections. (And it's got 1299 Diggs.)
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man my dad got a full head of steam and voted for ron paul today. he mumbled something about how he liked one of his mindless rhetorics on economic policy or something. i tried to stop him, but i felt really stupid because i had forgotten entirely what it was about him that made me so incredibly sick to my stomach when i first read about him many moons ago. too bad i didn't read this beforehand i guess, because it's horrifying that my dad gave this disgusting creature a vote. not that it matters anyway, but it's one of those moral losses


in lighter news: i voted for obama, not knowing anything about him beforehand as i have not read one ounce of political information in possibly 6+ months, because a BLACK PRESIDENT will make racists really mad.

i can immediately think of a few people i have met in the past who 1)SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT AT ALL COSTS and 2)STOP ALL THE NEGROS AT ALL COSTS and i am hoping that this contradiction will wreck the shit out of them

beyond this i am finding it increasingly difficult to care who is in office as long as it isn't some fucking backwards homophobe racist that clearly poses some overwhelmingly apparent threat. i am no longer interested in keeping tabs on the figureheads they keep installing and blasting on my television set 24/7.

call me when the revolution comes, i shall be hibernating until then.
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man my dad got a full head of steam and voted for ron paul today. he mumbled something about how he liked one of his mindless rhetorics on economic policy or something. i tried to stop him, but i felt really stupid because i had forgotten entirely what it was about him that made me so incredibly sick to my stomach when i first read about him many moons ago. too bad i didn't read this beforehand i guess, because it's horrifying that my dad gave this disgusting creature a vote. not that it matters anyway, but it's one of those moral losses

Ron Paul talks about how the dollar is increasingly becoming weaker (I remember a topic a few months back about how the canadian dollar is stronger that the US Dollar now). The main things I have read him say is that America borrows about 600 billion of dollars a year and prints money it doesn't have according to it's gold and silver supply, which according to the constitution is the only legal tender.  he claims that sooner or later the economy will lead to a recession if they keep on borrowing and printing new problem to hide the problem.

Ron Paul's solution is said to spend more wisely (i.e. not on war on Iraq) and stop printing money that the country doesn't have according to it's Gold or Silver supply.

I don't really know much about economics, but I had heard before that America are like 3 Trillion dollars in debt and continuing to spend and borrow money, which will eventually have to pay back.

Maybe someone with more knowledge on the subject can shed some light on this one for me.
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Ron Paul talks about how the dollar is increasingly becoming weaker (I remember a topic a few months back about how the canadian dollar is stronger that the US Dollar now). The main things I have read him say is that America borrows about 600 billion of dollars a year and prints money it doesn't have according to it's gold and silver supply, which according to the constitution is the only legal tender.  he claims that sooner or later the economy will lead to a recession if they keep on borrowing and printing new problem to hide the problem.

Ron Paul's solution is said to spend more wisely (i.e. not on war on Iraq) and stop printing money that the country doesn't have according to it's Gold or Silver supply.

I don't really know much about economics, but I had heard before that America are like 3 Trillion dollars in debt and continuing to spend and borrow money, which will eventually have to pay back.
i do not acknowledge politicial candidates that identify exceptionally elementary problems and then suggest ridiculous solutions that they probably won't be able to go through with anyway.

this is particularly the case when these politicians are racist homophobes
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i do not acknowledge politicial candidates that identify exceptionally elementary problems and then suggest ridiculous solutions that they probably won't be able to go through with anyway.

this is particularly the case when these politicians are racist homophobes

this sums up ron paul's entire campaign
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McCain meanwhile offered a grim warning of the direction Obama or Clinton would take the country.

"They will paint a picture of the world in which America's mistakes are a greater threat to our security than the malevolent intentions of an enemy that despises us and our ideals."

...isn't that the general concensus though?  That America's mistakes are jeopardizing their security?

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Ron Paul talks about how the dollar is increasingly becoming weaker (I remember a topic a few months back about how the canadian dollar is stronger that the US Dollar now). The main things I have read him say is that America borrows about 600 billion of dollars a year and prints money it doesn't have according to it's gold and silver supply, which according to the constitution is the only legal tender.  he claims that sooner or later the economy will lead to a recession if they keep on borrowing and printing new problem to hide the problem.

Ron Paul's solution is said to spend more wisely (i.e. not on war on Iraq) and stop printing money that the country doesn't have according to it's Gold or Silver supply.

I don't really know much about economics, but I had heard before that America are like 3 Trillion dollars in debt and continuing to spend and borrow money, which will eventually have to pay back.

Maybe someone with more knowledge on the subject can shed some light on this one for me.

the main issue is a few storms are colliding at once, like the housing bubble and all this shit, which has caused the US dollar to slip a little bit. Paul's philosophy is to DISMANTLE the Federal Reserve and introduce gold or silver currency as ALTERNATE CURRENCY. aside from the hilariousness of two competing currencies within a country and that gold standards never work and by necessity have to lead to crippling recessions (I can do this again if you want me to illustrate it), gold itself has...fluctuated in price OH MY GOD.

Paul's solution isn't to spend more wisely, it's to spend almost nothing at all. everyone knows that a little bit of inflation is a good thing (when it comes to debt and stuff) but people who graduated from the Von Mises/Chicago school seem to believe externalities don't exist and you can sustain a self contained isolationist economy in a globalized world, without a massive decline in well being for everyone involved.
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