so what you guys are saying is that you like the old pre-mxiingforvolume style of mixing better, not that vinyls have some mystic mojo?

No vinyls clearly have magical powers and the "warmness" is real too it actually sends heat waves into your body like those commercials on TV

this is my vinyl collection. one i bought, one my brother bought for me because the cover is pretty visibly amazing

Vinyls are better because they're worse

God, you've got no soul at all.

I own 1 vinyl, entitled 'The 12 Commandments Of Dance'. Obviously, it's excellent.
When i bought this, my friend also bought a record: 'faces' by Run DMC, with a B side featuring Chuck D and Public Enemy. It's absolutely amazing.

I intend to buy more once i actually own a record player.

inri i never thought i would agree with you on anything ever.

this is my vinyl collection. one i bought, one my brother bought for me because the cover is pretty visibly amazing

Pilgrimage is so awesome... I'd like to have that in LP format hehe. But I'm currently checking for Swallow The Sun, My Dying Bride, Anathema and Wolves In The Throne Room.

8 tracks own all

Technically if you get a vinyl in mint condition, it will have a better sound quality than a CD. A CD takes sample of sounds and clumps them next to each other. The higher the sample rate, the smaller the samples will be, therefore sounding closer to the actual recording.

Vinyls don't work in the same way. All the sound is burnt to the Vinyl in it's true form, therefore it is the true form of music.

It's anal and you probably won't be able to tell the difference nowadays, but Digital will always be a representation of the 'real' thing.

hmm that makes sense actually.  high five.  i now agree with lyndon (provided his information is correct!)  i did not even think about it in that light.

I believe Lyndon is absolutely correct (IIRC), because the vast majority of studios record using analogue equipment.

Technically if you get a vinyl in mint condition, it will have a better sound quality than a CD. A CD takes sample of sounds and clumps them next to each other. The higher the sample rate, the smaller the samples will be, therefore sounding closer to the actual recording.

If that was true then you would be able to tell the difference between a recording with a 44khz sample rate and a 96Khz one, but you can't

Vinyls don't work in the same way. All the sound is burnt to the Vinyl in it's true form, therefore it is the true form of music.

It's anal and you probably won't be able to tell the difference nowadays, but Digital will always be a representation of the 'real' thing.

No it's not, the molecules of the PVC used to make vinyl discs are so big vinyls actually have a lower sound resolution than CDs

If that was true then you would be able to tell the difference between a recording with a 44khz sample rate and a 96Khz one, but you can't

Well if you listen something with a very low sample rate (8khz) then you will hear a difference. But to a trained ear you should be able to hear the difference in sound quality from a CD to one from a DVD in a movie or something.

No it's not, the molecules of the PVC used to make vinyl discs are so big vinyls actually have a lower sound resolution than CDs

Well CD's burn to digital (1s and 0s) whereas on a record it burns the sound wave to the vinyl so when the needle runs of the bumps it has made, the vibrations make the sound. Digital recreates this by playing little recording samples of this bunched all together and converted to digital.

Think of it as, vinyl is a painting where the paint has been brushed on naturally. A CD is more like someone has printed that painting off using a printer. All the colours are represented by little dots of colour bunched close together (much like samples of sound in a digital recording)

Well if you listen something with a very low sample rate (8khz) then you will hear a difference. But to a trained ear you should be able to hear the difference in sound quality from a CD to one from a DVD in a movie or something.

It's because the highest frequency a 8khz can capture is 4 khz, so it doesn't record anything above that, I don't know the science and theory behind that, but the sampling rate must be the highest frequency you expect to record multiplied by two, and since the highest frequency most humans can hear is around 22 khz, 44 khz is usually enough.

With 96 khz the highest frequency you can capture is 48 khz but thats way beyond what someone can hear, so maybe a cat or a mutant could tell a difference between 44 and 96 khz but most people can't

Well CD's burn to digital (1s and 0s) whereas on a record it burns the sound wave to the vinyl so when the needle runs of the bumps it has made, the vibrations make the sound. Digital recreates this by playing little recording samples of this bunched all together and converted to digital.

Think of it as, vinyl is a painting where the paint has been brushed on naturally. A CD is more like someone has printed that painting off using a printer. All the colours are represented by little dots of colour bunched close together (much like samples of sound in a digital recording)

 

It's because the highest frequency a 8khz can capture is 4 khz, so it doesn't record anything above that, I don't know the science and theory behind that, but the sampling rate must be the highest frequency you expect to record multiplied by two, and since the highest frequency most humans can hear is around 22 khz, 44 khz is usually enough.

With 96 khz the highest frequency you can capture is 48 khz but thats way beyond what someone can hear, so maybe a cat or a mutant could tell a difference between 44 and 96 khz but most people can't

I think you're getting mixed up. Sample rate is the number of samples in a second. It's measured in frequency. The higher the frequency, the more samples are played a second.

What you say about humans not hearing over 22 khz is correct. But this is only the case when we are talking about pitch.

Frequency is a measure of the number of occurrences of a repeating event per unit time

the repeating event you are refering to is the sine wave oscillating up and down to quickly for us to hear it, which is known as pitch.

When measure sample rates, it's not about the sine wave getting closer and closer together to generate a high pitch, but the amount of digital samples per second, that give the representation of sound...

I'm going back to the painting....

A higher sample rate would mean that the dots of colour from a printer are closer together forming a more solid colour on the page. If the lower the sample rate, the more infrequent the dots would print out, giving a poorer resolution.

Kind of like the difference between a monitor with a high resolution (compared to a DVD or something with a high number of samples per second) to a monitor with a low resolution (compared to something with a low sample rate like a telephone or something)

Lyndon I'm not going to try to convince you that LPs are worse, if you do your own research you'll find out they actually are and how the sampling rate works

Well the debate has rather changed on how a digital CD works. I don't think you fully understand the concept of what frequency is and that it is more than just the frequency of pitch that we hear.

hertz = 1 cycle per second

Sine wave

Concert pitch A is 440hz

440 cycles of that sine wave a second to generate this pitch.

Once we get to over 20khz the pitch is so high we can't hear it.

on a CD

44.1 khz = 44100 cycles per second

44100 samples per second

44100 small snippets of sound a second make up what you hear a second.

The higher the herts, does not affect the pitch as it is not the sine wave that is oscillating 44100 cycles per second, but a small sample of digital data.

The more samples a second, the more true the 'digital representation' of the sound is to it's true form, which is burnt straight onto the survace of a vinyl.

I'm not sure where you are failing to see the problem here. I actually thought it was common knowledge that Vinyls, in mint condition have a truer sound. Why do you think they still manafacture a limited supply of vinyls if the quality was inferior to digital? Do they still manafacture cassettes of music? They are certainly inferior.

Frequency measured in hertz is not just limited to pitch. It's basically anything that frequently occors repeatedly over time.  You could measure the refresh rate of your Television in hertz (NTSC = 60hz Pal =50hz). So the screen would refresh either 60 or 50 times per second depending on which region you live in.

lyndon inri cheetos is kind of dumb as shit don't bother.