I'm actually considering buying a wii just for super smash bros.
Is the wii really bad enough to not be worth it?

I'm just really angry right now because No More Heroes just came out, the store called me about my preorder, and I don't feel like running down to the wal-mart (which has 10 Wii's in stock... go figure) and spending another 250 bux on one.

Ok, the following may be unethical, but you'll get a new Wii out of the deal. 

Why don't you go and buy a new Wii, and then return it with the defective Wii in the box and tell the store it wouldn't play games for some reason? Instead of exchanging it ask for a refund because this defective product has left you distrustful of Nintendo products. You get your money back and a new (hopefully fully working) Wii in the process.

Ok, the following may be unethical, but you'll get a new Wii out of the deal. 

Why don't you go and buy a new Wii, and then return it with the defective Wii in the box and tell the store it wouldn't play games for some reason? Instead of exchanging it ask for a refund because this defective product has left you distrustful of Nintendo products. You get your money back and a new (hopefully fully working) Wii in the process.

Won't work Serial number on the consol must match the box to the consol Unless there stupid and like to take a big loss.

what you need to do is buy 2 of them and sell one on ebay and bam you  make some back.

so you spend 500 and some tax you can consider it an investment.

Why don't you go and buy a new Wii, and then return it with the defective Wii in the box and tell the store it wouldn't play games for some reason? Instead of exchanging it ask for a refund because this defective product has left you distrustful of Nintendo products. You get your money back and a new (hopefully fully working) Wii in the process.

I just came from the mall after purchasing No More Heroes and Etrian Odyssey* and they JUST restocked their shelves with 7 Wii's (which I guarantee won't be there by Friday afternoon).  While picking up my games I told them of my dilemma and they said they still take in defected merchandise but a Wii can't be worth anymore than 80 credit and I'm trying to save my money.  I eventually decided not to buy a new Wii but this isn't the first time a system has died on me this year.  My second Xbox 360 died in the middle of Mass Effect (my first 360 died a year previous in the middle of Oblivion).  I was thinking about buying a PS3 but then I came to my senses after my friend slapped me and said "No."  I honestly think God doesn't want me to play videogames and the only thing that keeps me company these days are independent comic books, back issues of Heavy Metal, and my right hand.

what you need to do is buy 2 of them and sell one on ebay and bam you  make some back.

I completely forgot about Ebay.  I had enough money to buy all 7 Wii's in stock but I remember someone telling me that the store can refuse sales to individuals on popular products.  Someone who walks in and buys the entire Wii stock is more than likely an internet scalper.

*Funny story, Etrian Odyssey cannot be found anywhere.  EBgames/Gamestop doesn't even LIST IT on their website anymore.  I finally found one used and brought it up to the counter.  The guy rings it up but can't find the cartridge.  I tell him "well keep searching lolz" and I stand there for half an hour before saying "Whatever" and I leave.  Today I get a cell phone calling saying No More Heroes was ready and I go to pick it up.  The guy from the day before recognized me and said that he called 45 different stores in the WA area until finally, a store in OREGON (400 miles away) had a copy which he asked to have delivered.  When I pick up Heroes I also got Etrian.  I said "Thank you, you are awesome" and the store manager practically promoted the dude on the spot to assistant manager. 

Thank you Software, Etc.  You really made my day.  Now if only you could fix my fucking Wii because I have to resort to playing on my friend's system and he's never around.

True they can refuse sales  but it dose not hurt to ask if you don't ask you'll never know.

I kind of want to jump in here and defend the Wii a little bit after the whole "FUCK YOU" Marcus said.

I will agree, the Wii doesn'y have a lot of games for it that appeal to people like us (aka people who want a game with substance, rather than waggle motions).  But I feel that the ones that it does make it worth the buy.  Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Resident Evil, No More Heroes, Smash Bros, Mario Kart - these are all good games that aren't on other systems (except RE4).  I generally feel they are worth playing, and with the Wii being substantially less than the other systems, it's a good investment IMHO.

I haven't really played my Wii since I beat Metroid though.  I bought Mario and only have like 10 stars.  But I bought NMH today, so maybe that will change.

what, how can you say No More Heroes when you just got it. or Smash Bros, which isn't out?

if you're going to include games that aren't out yet you might as well go as far as you want except I don't know of anything else lol.

Ok, then most of these games are good except the ones that aren't out though they probably will be. NMH got 9's from nearly all reviews I checked, and Famitsu gave Brawl a 40/40.  I didn't realize better reviews meant bad games.

Blow me Steel

Hey Marcus, have you tried changing your Wii's orientation?  A friend of mine had the same problem and he fixed it by going from having the system standing to laying it on it's side.  It sounds stupid, but it did work. 

Anyways, if you do need to send it in for repairs, they'll most likely just fix the dvd drive instead of giving you a new console.  So you shouldn't have to worry too much about your downloaded games.  Also try talking to a customer rep first before you fill out anything for the repair.  You can sometimes talk them down on the price of it. 

...my point was that if you're going to name some stuff coming out, you might as well go ahead and name more, and I honestly can't think of any. that list he posted is all I can even think you'd own this thing for, and that's pretty small!

other than of course untitled mario project or whatever.

You can defend any system you want, or bash any system you want, however...this thread wasn't about it.

GW Forums Law #15 (c): Any topic that mentions the Wii must invariably lead to a discussion surrounding the quality of said system.

Corollary: Comparisons to the Xbox360 and PS3 must follow.

Hey Marcus, have you tried changing your Wii's orientation?  A friend of mine had the same problem and he fixed it by going from having the system standing to laying it on it's side.  It sounds stupid, but it did work. 

Anyways, if you do need to send it in for repairs, they'll most likely just fix the dvd drive instead of giving you a new console.  So you shouldn't have to worry too much about your downloaded games.  Also try talking to a customer rep first before you fill out anything for the repair.  You can sometimes talk them down on the price of it. 

I changed the orientation several times, kicked the machine, banged it with my fist, kissed it, and smeared it with the blood of a sacred gazelle.

Nothing.

My last resort is to send it to Nintendo so they can charge me whatever ludicrous price there is to fix it.  If it's too much (I'm saying more than 50 bux) then I'm just going to trade it in and buy several new ones so I can scalp them on ebay.

There's... WII FITNESS (note: wii activities have been proven to be NO GOOD in replacement of REAL exercise and recent investigations are showing that in it's short amount of time released, wii playing can cause muscle and back pains. This game will now be titled WII ACTIVITIES incase of future legal actions against it) and... something Mario (Mariokart?)
My brother gets nintendo mag occasionally and there are like ten games comming out on the wii this year. seven of them being multi-console games. (KAWORU IS KNOWN FOR HIS ACCURATE STATISTICAL FACTS). The games that are out which arent multi console are generally useless/boring/repetative minigames (essentially flashgames just you move your wrist up and down... not like a mouse though) that if released on any other console would get mind-numbingly poor reviews (regardless of the controls being essentially the same, replacing wrist with LEFT THUMB). There's Red Steel and Zelda and Mario and Metroid...

Sorry but A 360 is more value than a wii, because you're buying a system which has more than four or five games which're better than Superman64. With the Wii... Superman64 begins to look as good as Zelda: Oot.