Vladivostok has a bunch of songs from Roslana, the winner of the Eurovision Song contest a few years back, including her winning song. I thought that was pretty funny... until I realized that Rockstar is Scottish and takes part of the contest themselves (except they suck and always come last).

I find myself listening to Liberty Rock and Vladivostok as well plus The Journey which has some calm and nice songs.

By the way, do not read the following if you don't want parts of the plot ruined - I finally realized why Michelle kept yelling "tell me more" etc. while you sleep with her. I always found that weird, including Niko's "there's something strange about her". Now it all make sense when it was revealed that she's an undercover cop of some kind..

yeah that's why everything in her apartment is new...because it's not her apartment.
brucie

haha I am loving the physics. my bigrig crashed to a stop and I flew out of the front window (and dropped my cap and shades ), so I went to steal some's car. He tried pulling me out, but got crushed between my open door and a wall.
More games need shit like this.

Does anyone have a 60gig PS3 because I heard Grand Theft Auto IV freezes a lot on it?

I do and have encountered no technical problems whatsoever.

I do and have encountered no technical problems whatsoever.

I do too and it happen to me about 2 time and my bro about 2 times but I think it can happen to all PS3 Grand Theft Auto.

i was driving past some street and i heard a woman yell out "haven't you read atlas shrugged!?" to someone. that was pretty funny.

god damn i really wanna beat the story and start faux-spoiling it for everyone but THERE ARE SO MANY MISSIONS

i have literally done 1 billion story missions so far.

still, they've all been awesome. i'm kinda mad about how if you fail a mission where you HAVE to drive half way across the city to get to it, you.. have to.. drive back there each time. most arent so bad as you can take a cab then just steal a car when you get there, but chauffer ones are the worst.

oh well, still awesome.

if you cheat you disable achievements forever on that save file, which sucks (if you save, of course)

i dont super care about achievements but for once i want to finish a gta without cheating

also even that wouldnt work for some of the ones ive failed, where you need to drive 3 people for 10 minutes in a car of THEIR choosing, which are the worst missions ever.

i never have a problem with crashing in cars, though, so thats np. it is just literally how some of the missions are cross-two-islands sort of thing, it's dumb.

yeah it isnt too fun. its nice that they put two in-a-mission-car conversations for each mission, but even then some missions you have to (or i have to) do 4 or 5 times and thats just balls

on a brighter note, has anyone else done any internet dating yet? i dated sobohoe and i am very fucking impressed with how much unique dialogue she has. im assuming not every internet girl is dateable? it would be pretty insane to have this much unique shit for each girl. i would fine out myself but i am already going on dates/hanging out with the guys almost as often as doing story missions so i dont want any more dependants.

I tried dating two girls and one guy and they all turned me down. ;( And yeah, I am with you on the story missions, it's ridiculous. I've just finished the Rob Liberty Bank mission with Packy, but I've been trying to go out with Roman and Little Jacob and Brucie and Packie in the meantime to get them to like me. And Kate. It's crazy.

It's kind of weird how game companies improve on old concepts but at the same time remove the best features.  In San Andreas if there was a mission where you had to drive somewhere long and then do something else then the game let you skip the drive if you failed and played the mission over (but you still had to drive ALL THE WAY BACK to the mission spot and San Andreas was huuuuuge).  Now this game gives you taxi's and the ability to instantly replay failed missions but you can't skip the driving segments.

ffffffffffffffffff game developers

i'm pretty far into this now. today i played vice city a little bit cos i wanted to see how much it had really improved and stuff, and actually the city is so much more lifelike so i take back what i said ealier. i don't know if i'd say i like it more than i liked vice city though, honestly, i mean yeah on pretty much every single level the gameplay is better but the whole game is so cold. like, i kind of feel bad all the time when i'm playing it cos every mission is go kill someone and i kind of like niko's character and i get depressed that we've got to go be murderers all the time. i'm not really into the story all that much, and since that's such a larger part of the game this time with less distractions, it makes me think worse of the game.

really though, the city is pretty amazing and what they've done to make it and the characters feel alive is pretty impressive. even going on the little dates with your buds and girlfriends feels alive (to an extent anyway, further than any game i've ever played has gone).

also, the missions are really samey. i think now that i'm in the second half of the game, they are putting in some more variety. i've got this mission to do where you and little jacob go in a helicopter and have to take down some other helicopter but there has been way too much go to this place, shoot nameless goon, drive back. i think the stripping down of extraneous nonsense has also revealed that the core of the game isn't that varied. it IS fun most of the time though, i'm not totally down on it. i think that, as polished as it is, it feels a little unfinished. i'm not saying put back in crap like stat building, but the purchasing of property and feeling of progression you got in the other games, because you were accumulating things other than emotional baggage and a worthless number in the top of the screen, is gone.

maybe that's kind of the point and i think i'm gonna end up appreciating what they tried to do with the immigrant getting disillusioned with the american dream and the kind of crime that happens today opposed to twenty years ago more. i don't feel like an idiot playing this game, at least, that's something. it just makes me feel a bit depressed. at least there is brucie and little jacob to lighten it up.

I kind of don't like how the story is following the same formula as the other GTAs. Work for some guy, shit goes wrong, work for this other guy who saves your ass, shit goes wrong, work for some other guy. I hope they eventually make a GTA where there's some degree of freedom like shoot Michelle right in the fucking face to bypass certain story arcs or open up new ones.

CJ was the shit. Niko's physical limitations make me miss CJ, and Vic for that matter.
Nothing against gta4 though. It's a unique feeling gta. As usual. also the internet is hilarious.

well there have been two times so far where i've been given the choice to kill someone or let them go and i'm assuming those will eventually come back to help me out later. or fuck me over i don't know! but i think it's kind of funny how people just sort of walk all over niko. i was doing some elisabeta mission and i walked into her apartment and she and little jacob were arguing about something, and elisabeta volunteered me to fix her problem without even asking or anything. she just said "well niko's going to clean up your mess". and that's what half of the missions are like. niko walks into a house, people are discussing their problems, and someone says "niko will do it" without niko haven't having said or done anything.

brucie's website is fantastic. it's just more of his awesomeness.

My favorite moments when it comes to "It's your choice" is when you get to pick who to kill out of two guys like Dwayne & Playboy X or Francis and his brother Derrick. I always kill the guy I consider to be the most annoying and treat Niko like shit. Playboy X got sprayed with my AK in an alley and I sniped Francis in the head since his brother was simply trying to redeem himself... plus I was sure Francis would use all the info against Niko sometime later..