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fffffffffffffff  if the teach said "pee your pants or go kill that kid over there" would the kid still be absolved of the deed if he killed that kid?  Of course peeing in the lunchbox is the joke option.

"Hold it in" was the correct answer, btw.

If the kid was intent on going pee, he should have just walked out of the class and went to the washroom.  Too bad he was intent on acting like fool and was "traumatized".

And yes, you learn to respect authority in school.

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fffffffffffffff  if the teach said "pee your pants or go kill that kid over there" would the kid still be absolved of the deed if he killed that kid?  Of course peeing in the lunchbox is the joke option.

"Hold it in" was the correct answer, btw.

If the kid was intent on going pee, he should have just walked out of the class and went to the washroom.  Too bad he was intent on acting like fool and was "traumatized".

And yes, you learn to respect authority in school.

kids do what authority figures tell them. KILLING is a bit extreme, but you're being misleading. look at the instruction. it's very specific. she is clearly saying that if he leaves, he'll be disciplined. his choice was to urinate in front of everyone or not at all.

I don't see how you don't see this as traumatic. the teacher LET IT HAPPEN. that means it isn't some case of a swaggering kid sayin FUCK YOU, he actually was scared and the teacher was harassing him. otherwise she would have, you know, stopped him.

not that it's still not cool, it is, but how the fuck can you justify the teacher's reaction of punishing a child for wanting to use the bathroom by making them choose between urinating their pants and urinating while EVERYONE watches? any real teacher would have said OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE GO the second he got up to get to the lunchbox.
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btw guys I do totally agree with Kentona. I mean the law and human rights (especially the rights of children) is simply bullshit made up to test kids, to see if they veer from the correct path of doing exactly what they're told. Because y'know school is to teach people and what we want to teach people to do is obey authority figures without question. because that's education and that's what school is for.
 any PUSSY teacher would have simply done the humane thing and let the kid go to the toilet instead of deliberately harassing the guy, but I don't think out community needs anymore PUSSIES, we need real teachers. The kind that make people piss themselves in class so they can learn control and respect, the kind that cane students who are capable of questioning a teacher's decision (because questioning authority is bad. The people in charge are ALWAYS RIGHT).
This kid had a choice, to either respect authority or be a fool and try and act big. Clearly he was a fool and did not respect authority enough.
Personally I think that red son of a bitch should be deported because if there's one thing america doesn't need, it's people who questions authority.
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any PUSSY teacher would have simply done the humane thing and let the kid go to the toilet instead of deliberately harassing the guy, but I don't think out community needs anymore PUSSIES, we need real teachers. The kind that make people piss themselves in class so they can learn control and respect, the kind that cane students who are capable of questioning a teacher's decision (because questioning authority is bad. The people in charge are ALWAYS RIGHT).

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You're kidding me, right?
Uh... dude. The sarcasm is pretty damned obvious!
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Yes, I was just making sure. I've been experiencing a depressing wave of stupidity on the Internet and I was hoping that Kaworu didn't fall victim to it as well.
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Hahahaha this reminds me of years ago, when there was a shooting across the street from our high school and we went into lockdown.  The class I was in happened to be the only room detached from the main building so we were kind of isolated.  We waited a good 4 hours and still no "all clear" from administration.  Kids started getting antsy and one had to pee really bad, so he went into the teacher's office and peed in the trash can.  Turns out, The lockdown had ended after about 20 minutes, and no admin ever came by the room to give us the all-clear because they had forgotten to.
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Haha, you lost 4 hours! But, did the teacher do anything after finding someone had "relieved" themselves in their trash can?

This situation is funny actually, you cannot link age to someone's reasoning faculties - I've seen older people do dumber stuff. Young Q's not really at fault here: yes, he should have said fuck it and walked out; but actions like that often end up hurting yourself because people are on the "authority's" side. This boy's unwittingly done exactly what he needed to do to show just how unreasonable the teacher was being. Hell, would YOU do the same thing? Think about it for a minute - to actually be in a position where you have to do something like that means there's no other option. Generally, kids will either throw a tantrum or piss themselves in such a situation. And I'm quite impressed actually, he does seem to show a spark for doing what needs to be done regardless of what people will think of him...in closing, he is nothing less than straight gangsta. Also, he's got quite a story to tell when he gets older...if he's willing to go through the trauma again that is.

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glad to know that your school district is all about taking away civil rights

They did this in my school as well (locking bathroom doors among other ridiculous things).  It's pretty fucked up now that I think about it.  Instead of having teachers or administrators (the latter whose jobs are to keep the students in line) periodically check to see if kids were having sex or smoking in the bathroom, they just locked them instead.  Not only that, but, the student bathrooms were just filthy and never had soap or toilet paper in them, either.  The janitors would selectively ignore certain parts of the school that needed to be cleaned.  The faculty bathrooms were always pristine and shiny, though.



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Wth I was 13 in 9th grade.
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Well, the teacher is obviously in the wrong, and if it was me, I would either:
A.) Walk out of the classroom and go to the bathroom without asking.
B.) Take the third option and pee on her (well, maybe not her, but the wall, or a desk, etc).
And anyways, the teacher should have let the student go to the bathroom, but since she didn't, the child had no option but to do as the teacher asked, as, all children, are taught to do as we are told :P
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It's not very hard to hold yourself for an hour. I believe that students should be allowed to go out and pee if they don't ask regularly, but this kid might have been a troublemaker and ask to go peeing nearly every hour. If he wasn't a troublemaker and actually couldn't hold, he would probably pee his pants. He probably did it to show his disrespect to the teacher.
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It's not very hard to hold yourself for an hour. I believe that students should be allowed to go out and pee if they don't ask regularly, but this kid might have been a troublemaker and ask to go peeing nearly every hour. If he wasn't a troublemaker and actually couldn't hold, he would probably pee his pants. He probably did it to show his disrespect to the teacher.

For all you know, the class might have taken much longer than an hour. And if you REALLY have to go, it IS hard to hold it. When I've gotta leak something fierce, I find it hard to hold for even ten minutes, let alone what could have been two, maybe two and a half hours. When I was in sixth grade, we had class straight from 8 AM to 11:30. We got half an hour lunch, then we had another two and a half hours of class. He could have the same deal, you know.

You don't know that he did it to disrespect his teacher. Granted, I don't know he DIDN'T, but it seems sort of stupid. It would be more disrespectful to disobey authority than to deface their property under their orders. He did what he was told, the teacher didn't. Why?

District Rule: LET THE FRIGGIN' TURDS GO TO THE WASHROOM.

Teacher's Action: Disallowed the kid to go to the washroom.

Teacher's Choices: Hold it, or use the lunchbox.

Kid couldn't hold it. He used the best option at the time: empty your bladder. Teacher told him to use the lunchbox, so he did. He followed orders. Granted, the teacher gave the orders by going against her duties, but that doesn't make it the kid's fault, that's the teacher's for blatantly disobeying protocol.
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When you get into the classroom, then your bladder is empty and as long as the child don't have a medical condition, then it is easy to hold it. When he ask to go out, he is disturbing the class.

If he had a class from 8 to 11:30 w/o breaks, then he should be allowed to have a toilet break. The point is that even though he might have been a good kid who was treated wrong, he might as well be a troublemaker and the decision of the teacher was correct. Therefore the decision of the teacher could be correct and don't condemn the action too early.

Even a sixth grader would understand the second option was a joke option. They are not that stupid. He probably thought it was funny to act out the joke option to annoy the teacher. I still say that if he was a good kid he would either just left to the bathroom or he would have peed his pants.
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No kid would willingly piss themselves. And if they're good kids, they would walk out... why? That's more rude than what he did.

After all, 13 years old in sixth grade... he could be... slow, for lack of a better term.

Besides, I was a fucking teacher's pet in elementary. I'd have done the same thing. I mean, that way I can get relief. Not gonna risk my health to be a Mr. Goody-Two-Shoes.
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Yeah. How do some of you not get why this was WRONG?

Children are taught to listen to their teachers, so if the teacher gives them TWO CHOICES they aren't likely to say HEY THIS IS PRETTY UNREASONABLE, I'M GOING TO THE WASHROOM. Some of you are making it seem like this was a joke on the teachers part, when pretty clearly it wasn't. I mean, I'm sure she didn't think anyone would take her up the lunchbox thing, but if she hadn't proposed it wouldn't have happened. Even worse was, that when it did happen, she didn't stop it. She allowed the entire class to witness this, which would be traumatic for any child, because we're taught that this is a private action.

She was in the wrong and that's all there is to it. If she had a problem with kids 'going to the washroom' and then wasting time outside of class, that's something she could have dealt with on an individual basis with the parents and principal for the problematic students, rather than taking it out on the entire class. It was poor judgement on her part and she does deserve to be punished.

edit: actually marcus i am not sure if the quote is supposed to read like "is a high school student more likely to...?" because the way you phrased it could mean something entirely different so idk which you were trying to get across there. I said 'yeah' because I suspect you're trying to point out that a high school student is old enough to figure out a reasonable choice.

edit edit: after re-reading your post (before the one I quoted) it seems like you think this kid was dumb for obeying the authority figure who is supposed to teach them the right thing to do. while at 13 you should be pretty capable of thinking on your own, the fact that he's 13 in sixth grade kind of leads me to believe he's probably not a NORMAL (i am saying he was likely slow) 13 year old, which is why he was the one who ended up doing it.
finding this whole ordeal hilarious isn't that bad dude
it's like finding the fact somebody is so ruled by their prejudices they murdered a woman for being a goth, a bit funny on the part of the person. you still acknowledge that happened, that it is still a serious issue, but regardless looking at it in a more.......lighthearted manner isn't wrong at all

a shit example but you get the point
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Saying he should have known it was a joke option does not count when the teacher SAT BACK AND LET HIM DO IT THE ENTIRE TIME.
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Trujin you remiind me a lot of my english teacher. Which is funny because I go to school in Holand  :hmm: akward...
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Something like this actually happened to me in the first grade (also in Florida - maybe it's a trend): I wet my pants during gym time with the entire first grade watching (around 100+ kids) because the gym teacher wouldn't let me use the bathroom. This puddle formed around me and everyone started laughing. They then made me walk down to the nurse's office, alone and with my pants wet.

If I had known I could have made a lawsuit about it, there would have been hell to pay!

Luckily, I was just a first grader, so there wasn't any humiliation in the whole ordeal. Actually, it was sort of funny to me, too.
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Sounds familiar, I aske dif I could go to the bathroom one in class and the teacher told me "To bad", I couldn't hold it so i told her she could go fuck herself and went to the bathroom. Yes I had a talk with the principle, suprising didn't get in trouble for telling her to fuck herself or disobeying her, the principle told me I could of used nicer words,a nd let me off like that. of course the teacher was suspended and because I saw the tension that would come when she came back I asked to be moved to different math class.