Don't they stop checking after they were executed though? While they're still alive it's obvious that they'll try to get appeals and find more evidence but when they're already executed? I think the money goes to the investigation of not-dead peoples crimes, the motivation to save lives is higher than the motivation to prove a point.

But by proving the point that the death penalty is too flawed, they directly save the lifes of the people in the future that would get capital punishement, right?

Kaworu, I wasn't saying that without the death penalty people would go around killing murderers, I was saying that the best way to kill murderers is with the death penalty.

just a few hours ago, the SC upheld Kentucky's lethal injection policy, the arguments haven't been published yet.

http://www.nasdaq.com/aspxcontent/NewsStory.aspx?cpath=20080416%5cACQDJON200804161045DOWJONESDJONLINE000724.htm&&mypage=newsheadlines&title=Supreme%20Court%20Upholds%20Kentucky's%20Lethal%20Injection%20Procedures

This isn't a yes or no type question, the answer isn't as clear as black or white.

No for the most part, but yes in certain type situations. Some people commit crimes that are so horrible and disgusting that they shouldn't have to privilege to live.

Kaworu, I wasn't saying that without the death penalty people would go around killing murderers, I was saying that the best way to kill murderers is with the death penalty.

Well there is another alternative.

I'm against it, it's an outdated and barbaric practice.

Against it.

There have been times where a person was killed then found to be innocent and I think it's much too much of a risk.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/may/06/japan

sorry to bump but I was curious about Japan's death penalty and holy fuck

He is offered a final cigarette and even manages to share a joke with prison staff. In a dramatic finale, the chants of Buddhists priests are punctured by the opening of the trapdoor and the snap of the rope as it tightens around the condemned man's neck.

Death does not come until 14 minutes later, when prison officers confirm that his heart has stopped beating.

Aside from the introduction of stronger nylon rope, little about the way Japan executes its criminals has changed in the intervening years.

or my favorite part

Typically, death row inmates learn of their execution just minutes before they are led to the gallows; their families are informed later so they can collect the corpse for cremation.

Though Japan's "secret executions" enjoy widespread public support, they have been denounced by Amnesty International, the EU and the UN, which has called for a global moratorium on the death penalty.

death row inmates learn of their execution just minutes before they are led to the gallows

secret executions

thats it, fuck japan, start the country over.

We had a debate about a week ago in school. Basically, it's just pointless., in any sense. However, I'm of the idea that certain human beings do need to be abolished from planer earth.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/may/06/japan

sorry to bump but I was curious about Japan's death penalty and holy fuck

or my favorite part

thats it, fuck japan, start the country over.

are you really suprised by this though? Japan seems to be trying to make itself the WORST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD on purpose.

Kaworu, I wasn't saying that without the death penalty people would go around killing murderers, I was saying that the best way to kill murderers is with the death penalty.

your thought pattern:
murderers are bad, how do we kill them? death penalty!

the thought pattern you should have:
murderers are bad, how do we stop them murdering?

as you can see, this thought pattern has many more solutions than death.

This isn't a yes or no type question, the answer isn't as clear as black or white.

No for the most part, but yes in certain type situations. Some people commit crimes that are so horrible and disgusting that they shouldn't have to privilege to live.

well maybe that's why life isn't a privilege, it's a right

are you really suprised by this though? Japan seems to be trying to make itself the WORST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD on purpose.

Yeah man, but if you go over there they are SO fucking peaceful

like, the only people that start shit over there are the US military they let loose in the city.

The way I see it, killing murderers and, oh, let's throw in pedophiles just for shits and giggles, is perfectly fine. Why? Because it's right? No. Because it's economical. One less killer or child-fucker on the streets, sure, yay. But it's also one less inmate that we have to pay to have three meals a day and a place to live. A lot of people don't get that, but that's another story. Stop all this CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENTS and WERE NO BETTER THAN TERRORISTS bullshit.

The way I see it, killing murderers and, oh, let's throw in pedophiles just for shits and giggles, is perfectly fine. Why? Because it's right? No. Because it's economical. One less killer or child-fucker on the streets, sure, yay. But it's also one less inmate that we have to pay to have three meals a day and a place to live. A lot of people don't get that, but that's another story. Stop all this CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENTS and WERE NO BETTER THAN TERRORISTS bullshit.

this is stupid as hell because not only do most murderers never commit another murder or have an urge to, but because the system will never be able to be accurate enough to screen out non-murderers.

also yeah you know some of us have ethics and don't enjoy the thought of murdering another human being for some atavistic hammurabi code bullshit because it might incapacitate them from committing another crime.

QUICKLY! CUT OUT ALL STALKER'S EYES! ALSO THIEVES SHALL BE HOBBLED!

Yeah, they'd be pretty successful at that too, if only it weren't for them having the second largest economy in the world, one of the lowest unemployment rates, constant top 10 HDI rankings and an average life expectancy of over 80 years...

But they also have the 10th highest suicide rate in the world, so I think what Kaworu said makes sense

also yeah you know some of us have ethics and don't enjoy the thought of murdering another human being for some recidivist hammurabi code bullshit because it might incapacitate them from committing another crime.

when someone gets a life sentence it's pretty safe to say your life is over. i don't understand how the ethical angle leans on the side of life imprisonment. so it's cool to take away essentially all of someone's rights, except life? to me this just seems like you are pushing aside the problem so you don't have to deal with it. are you honestly telling me you would prefer life in prison versus an execution? i cannot understand why anyone would want the former in this situation. the natural human instinct to survive is obviously going to make people NOT WANT TO DIE but if you think throwing someone in a box and forgetting about them is somehow better than cutting out the bullshit and just killing them, then i disagree strongly.

given how sentencing people to life in prison isn't going to go away anytime soon, please tell me how it is much more better than being dead.