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I don't know if this is a common thing AROUND THE WORLD or anything, but a lot of the people I know really seem to dislike Eyes Wide Shut.  I remember about four years ago a friend of mine was talking to a film teacher we had and he said "It's a shame that Stanley Kubrick's last movie was Eyes Wide Shut" and the teacher (and another teacher that was with him now that I think about it) laughed and agreed.  I have a lot of respect for that teacher (and, at the time, my friend BUT IM NOT GOING TO GET INTO THAT) so I figured "huh I guess it sucks" and I put it off until about two and a half hours ago.

And I really like it!  I didn't really have any problems with the film other than the fact Tom Cruise is an ok actor at best and it's clear that Nicole Kidman has never smoked weed in her life.  Other than that... I don't know, I can't really remember if there was anything that I particularly disliked about it, which either means that there wasn't anything else that I disliked or it was something near the beginning that wasn't a very big deal anyway.

So I guess I'm making this topic because I want to know whether or not I'm the only person ever who liked this movie.  Because I really liked it.  But maybe I'm wrong and a lot of people do like it.  I don't know!  That's what I'm trying to find out.

Also I want to get a good discussion about what the movie was about, because not everything is spoon fed to you and I'm PRETTY SURE that Victor was lying to Bill at the end of the movie.  I'll post my own theories or whatever later once the topic gets going so yeah get the topic going guys.

p.s.: the fucking orgy scene was creepy as hell man and i'm a douchebag so maybe that's why i liked it so much

edit:  This was on rotten tomatoes:

What's the biggest surprise of Eyes Wide Shut? It would be that Kubrick has nearly made a David Lynch movie.

I kind of thought the same thing but then again I compare everything to David Lynch because I'm a douchebag so don't mind me.

Also remember that I am obligated to bring up David Lynch in every topic ever.

Eyes Wide Shut was a pretty pathetic attempt to be Lynch... Which is a pretty pathetic guy to imitate. It was downright boring, the score made me cringe (Jocelyn Pook is to piano what the guy who paints dogs playing poker is to painting), and to top it all off, Tom Cruise (hearts XENU) couldn't have played the level of depth his character needed even if he was a good actor.

Eyes Wide Shut was a pretty pathetic attempt to be Lynch... Which is a pretty pathetic guy to imitate. It was downright boring, the score made me cringe (Jocelyn Pook is to piano what the guy who paints dogs playing poker is to painting), and to top it all off, Tom Cruise (hearts XENU) couldn't have played the level of depth his character needed even if he was a good actor.

hahahahaha

There is no way that Kubrick, the OCD of film making would rip off another film maker.

The film is hardly Lynch style. I think it has the classic Kubrick stamp all of it.

I love Eyes Wide Shut. It has so many levels to it. On one level, Tom Cruise is dealing with a mid-life crisis with his marriage. On the other level there is a deep conspiracy afoot to do with a secret society. There's so many weird things with it that make it really interesting. There is a video on youtube by some guy who did a complete analysis on it. Check it out.

for my money you never have to be apologetic when it comes to enjoying a stanley kubrick film

anyway, i saw eyes wide shut many years ago, but don't really remember much of what my reaction was. i know i didn't dislike it and found it fairly intriguing.

i should watch this movie again sometime.

Eyes Wide Shut was a pretty pathetic attempt to be Lynch... Which is a pretty pathetic guy to imitate.

oh for fuck's sake this is the second time you've dissed lynch and had no idea what you are talking about (HURRR DIALOGUE IS BADLY WRITTEN I MUST NOT GET IT  )

even if you were to assume the worst stereotype about Lynch, just some horribly obtuse movie chock full of weird shit for no reason and it's all just horrible pretense, and even if you were to assume Stanley Kubrick would seriously rip off another director, how in fuck's sake is that a pathetic guy to imitate.

half of the movies out right now are trying to be Wes Anderson or Judd Apatow, and you're seriously going to claim someone making a purposefully obtuse movie is being pathetic? fuck, I'd rather watch a hundred movies that are almost incomprehensible but have interesting visual images and plot details than watch another minute of Juno.

heres a review: http://www.bigempire.com/filthy/eyeswideshut.html

I watched it when I was a lot younger, and I didn't really appreciate it as a film.  I just thought "LOL BOOBIES" and left it at that.

Though I do recall creating a Duke Nukem 3D level based on the movie, which was pretty much just this big house you walked around in filled with naked people... doing stuff.  I was a hormonal teenager, yes.  I'm sure we've all been there (Some of us still are.)

Other than that, I didn't really care.

I dunno if you're looking for only people who agree with you, but it was a pretty uninteresting movie to me. Maybe just something I'm not into, but I doubt if I would ever watch it again without being forced by a girl.

Plus Tom Cruise is has been like top 5 least fav actors of mine since AirForceOne.

Dude. Tom Cruise is not in Air Force One. That's Harrison Ford.

oh for fuck's sake this is the second time you've dissed lynch and had no idea what you are talking about (HURRR DIALOGUE IS BADLY WRITTEN I MUST NOT GET IT  )

even if you were to assume the worst stereotype about Lynch, just some horribly obtuse movie chock full of weird shit for no reason and it's all just horrible pretense, and even if you were to assume Stanley Kubrick would seriously rip off another director, how in fuck's sake is that a pathetic guy to imitate.

half of the movies out right now are trying to be Wes Anderson or Judd Apatow, and you're seriously going to claim someone making a purposefully obtuse movie is being pathetic? fuck, I'd rather watch a hundred movies that are almost incomprehensible but have interesting visual images and plot details than watch another minute of Juno.

I talk badly about Lynch because he's a horrible fucking writer/director who has maybe 3 or 4 good films after an entire careers worth of work, yet has a devoted fanboy following that defends any attack with "YOU JUST DONT GET IT HURRR"

I don't have to assume shit - Kubrick did imitate Lynch, as well as Ken Russell with EWS. Are you seriously going to tell me you don't see the similarities between this film and Lost Highway? Or the fact that Russell's Crimes of Passion has pretty much the SAME ending? Kubrick may have been a great director in his day, but that doesn't make him exempt from the time honored tradition of ripping off others in the industry - especially in the world of Psych Thrillers, which has become pretty tired over the years.

You're right, half the films out are trying to imitate other shitty fucking films, it's a sad state of affairs, but that doesn't excuse someone for imitating pretentious trash just because it's not simple and feel good or cliche'. It's such a fucking waste that EWS was Kubrick's last film, although you could argue that it's better to burn out than to fade away.

Oh yeah - you don't have to tell me about interesting visual details, after years of photographic training I can appreciate that these films are well shot, but those "Interesting plot details" lose their novelty very, very fast when the while film doesn't make sense.

this is from an interview with David Lynch

http://www.lynchnet.com/articles/msnchat.html

[blockquote]IkePlair in Onstage1 asks: David, you have said that you like Kubrick's films. I am curious what you thought of "Eyes Wide Shut"?

David Lynch: I really love "Eyes Wide Shut" I just wonder if Stanley Kubrick really did finish it the way he wanted to before he died.
[/blockquote]

Of all people, Mr Lynch himself would have noticed if Kubrick ripped off his movies. Amazingly he makes no mention of it all. hmm

I talk badly about Lynch because he's a horrible fucking writer/director who has maybe 3 or 4 good films after an entire careers worth of work, yet has a devoted fanboy following that defends any attack with "YOU JUST DONT GET IT HURRR"

I don't have to assume shit - Kubrick did imitate Lynch, as well as Ken Russell with EWS. Are you seriously going to tell me you don't see the similarities between this film and Lost Highway? Or the fact that Russell's Crimes of Passion has pretty much the SAME ending? Kubrick may have been a great director in his day, but that doesn't make him exempt from the time honored tradition of ripping off others in the industry - especially in the world of Psych Thrillers, which has become pretty tired over the years.

You're right, half the films out are trying to imitate other shitty fucking films, it's a sad state of affairs, but that doesn't excuse someone for imitating pretentious trash just because it's not simple and feel good or cliche'. It's such a fucking waste that EWS was Kubrick's last film, although you could argue that it's better to burn out than to fade away.

Oh yeah - you don't have to tell me about interesting visual details, after years of photographic training I can appreciate that these films are well shot, but those "Interesting plot details" lose their novelty very, very fast when the while film doesn't make sense.

HAHAHAHHA, YEARS OF PHOTOGRAPHIC TRAINING! years of reading books and learning logic for law school means I am not retarded and can follow a david lynch film. do you see how this works? you would also think someone in your YEARS OF TRAINING would have mentioned that cinematography is a different skillset from photography; you should get your money back : (

the idea that Kubrick is somehow going to rip off David Lynch's surrealism because he's just not clever enough to do it on his own (whats a starchild) is pretty hilarious. gotta love the movie name drops tho. also Eyes Wide Shut was based on a novella called Dream Story written in 1926 apparently and that predates both movies. maybe those movies ripped off that book!

it's pretty ludicrous and insulting to suggest a director of Kubrick's caliber (HEH I STUDY ALL HIS WORKS IN MY PHOTOGRAPHY CLASS) would just rip off another person's style because it's a "time-honored tradition" and he's just desparate to make a movie. the guy who made 2001 (a movie that drove people OUT OF THE THEATER) is suddenly going to sacrifice all his integrity for the last movie he'll ever make?

and lastly, maybe we are using a very different definition of pathetic. I do not think someone imitating someone else out of admiration is pathetic. a little weak, sure, but it's not like everyone doesn't already do this. saying it's pathetic to imitated a pathetic director (Mulholland Drive is a better movie than anything, its a fact), aside from being weird circular reasoning, doesn't make any sense when the elements of imitation (surrealism, complexity) are elements so often ignored in film anyways.

I don't find anything pathetic about imitating David Lynch, and it's pretty funny how far you are willing to rage against him with your unique iconoclast views (DARIO ARGENTO BLERGGGGH) and even then you STILL managed to bring up your awesome personal life.

maybe your EX-GIRLFRIEND WHO WORKED ON A MOVIE SET (heh...she's got huge tits) can tell us more?

Wierd, I just saw a random AirForceOne dvd ad, and then I remembered that I always mix up AirForceOne and TopGun. Of course I came rushing back here to correct myself hoping no one had noticed, but here I stand corrected.

I noticed... and I am bitterly disappointed.   

Man I don't to turn this topic into DEFEND DAVID LYNCH topic but before I continue: HK have you seen anything Lynch has done other than Twin Peaks

Anyway Eyes Wide Shut was pretty similar to a Lynch movie in certain ways but had Lynch made it he would have handled it much differently.  Also Eyes Wide Shut was pretty sweet let's talk some more about that movie.