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The "acclaim" is completely vocal because the original Okami sold about 70,000 copies.  This one might do better because it's on a Nintendo console but I have my doubts.

Are you sure?  I thought that it was the #100 best-selling game from the year it was released in.  I thought it would have done more than 70,000 to make that list.
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Damn, I've always wanted to play this when it first came out (but alas did not want to pay like $60 for it on Ebay) but now maybe I'll try out the Wii version! Looks freakin' interesting as hell.
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Are you sure?  I thought that it was the #100 best-selling game from the year it was released in.  I thought it would have done more than 70,000 to make that list.

My mistake, 70,000 copies sold in Japan and 200,000 copies sold in America which made it 100th best selling game in 2006.

Still, 300,000 copies internationally is a really paltry sum especially for a big budget game by Capcom.
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I borrowed Okami from a friend on the PS2. I was really looking forward to it, but it just totally bored me. Perhaps my mind was elsewhere, but the intro was horribly boring and long, the sound of people "talking" bugged the hell out of me, everything is ridiculously easy, the puzzles were pathetic (the camera kept pointing out the answers for me in a ... Sun (?) puzzle) and while I really digged the art style, everything was just so... dark and plain in the beginning. Perhaps that changes later on, I don't know, I couldn't keep playing it... All in all... very chore-like. But I'm willing to give it another shot since I admit I might have been pre-occupied...

That third screenshot sure looks amazing though.

Speaking of tp. Tried to play it again the other day. What a horrible let down that game turned out to be for me...
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My mistake, 70,000 copies sold in Japan and 200,000 copies sold in America which made it 100th best selling game in 2006.

Still, 300,000 copies internationally is a really paltry sum especially for a big budget game by Capcom.

Wow, I always assumed it did better than that.
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yeah, okami is mediocre at best.  like a lot of others i was enamored with the FILTER AND BLOOM visual style when i first heard about it, and the painting thing actually struck me as being a cool mechanic, but in actuality, it plays like any other boring zelda clone under the sun.  it's a pretty game, but considering it was trumped up to be some paragon of creativity and originality, it's literally one of the least ambitious games i've ever played in my life.  the LAST thing i was expecting was some generic action/adventure game with a few filters thrown over the graphics to make it look fresh, and that's basically exactly what i got.  the paint brush thing was pretty cool, and probably fitting for the wii controller, but it's such a minor part of the game that it doesn't go an especially long way towards redeeming it.

this and sotc were two ps2 games that came out at relatively the same time that i was anticipating as being interesting departures from typical games.  sotc was more or less exactly what i thought it would be and is still probably one of my favorite games, but this was pretty disappointing!  it sucks, because i think more idiots in the gaming media use okami as an example of GAMES AS ART than they ever will shadow of the colossus, which couldn't be further from the truth.  okami is the opposite of art, and it's a shame people let fucking painted visuals obscure that fact.
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i just got the new GI, they loved this game O.O
it got #1 console game of the month and oddly the rating was a tad bit higher than brawls(in my opinion, brawl was a bit overatted but it is still an amazing game) and GI in my opinion does better reviews than ign but not as good as game trailers so i would listen to GI more than ign naturally.
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GI's reviews suck ass.  GT is meh.
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i just got the new GI, they loved this game O.O
it got #1 console game of the month and oddly the rating was a tad bit higher than brawls(in my opinion, brawl was a bit overatted but it is still an amazing game) and GI in my opinion does better reviews than ign but not as good as game trailers so i would listen to GI more than ign naturally.
i don't know why i'm even bothering with you here, but these are honestly all terrible sources for objective reviews.
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i'm glad i dont know what ign or gi stands for or that a site called game trailers features reviews as well.
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i don't know why i'm even bothering with you here, but these are honestly all terrible sources for objective reviews.

There's no such thing as an objective review... unless man somehow builds a robotic reviewer but even then you have to have something to compare it against. 
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Actually I am with Marcus

I don't read reviews often anymore, I just go to metacritic or some dumb website like that to see the averaged scores. After that I pray to God that the reviewers are not screwing me and the game turns out to be good. Okami... Is a breath of fresh air from an artistic standpoint to say the least. Kudos to the late Clover Studio for achieving such a great look as they had done with all of their games, but honestly if I wanted to play Zelda I would just go and play Zelda. (Unless this is better than Zelda)
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i agree with him in that no one should really be reading reviews as a reliable source of information about games, considering most are terrible and the large majority of gamers everywhere have ridiculous tastes and don't know what they're talking about most of the time.  BBBBUUTTT, given the context of my post, replying with "heh.... true objectivity... is as fleeting and elusive as a summer breeze...." wasn't really appropriate, because i'm pretty sure he knew what the hell i was talking about.  as in, not COMPLETELY 100% OBJECTIVE, but more like reasonably objective/reviews coming from someone without a clear agenda that relates to money.  is this more clear macus???
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Oh, so now you're implying that Game Informer, which is owned by GameStop Corp and Barnes and Noble, two major companies known for heavy marketing and advertising deals, accepts money and special favors in exchange for favorable reviews!?  IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE FUCKING IMPLYING!?!?!?

Because yeah, that's pretty true dude.
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but this game isn't even a breath of fresh air graphically! it is cel shading with outlines that morph depending on your perspective and an overlay. this is not really cool.  and apart from that it is all the game really has, apart from this appeal of Authentic Japanese Mythology... and if this is what AJM is, then AJM is really terrible. and if you are into that then okay buy this game because it's not my place to forbid you even though i kind of wish i could. it's just a pile of stupid horseshit which steals from every 3D adventure game and does nothing new at all. i mean fuck the reason people say it is original is because it lifts a bunch of shit from art and myths of centuries past. WELL DONE. i hate this game i want to do something to my copy like snap it up, pour it in a bowl of coco pops and then pour it in the bin cos i don't want to eat it.

christ. i don't even want to dislike it this much because it implies i think it is somehow below average for a videogame. it isn't. there are about 10 videogames which i think are worthwhile, i guess. this is just another piece of shit, and i don't like the acclaim, attention or consideration it gets because it doesn't deserve any of it at all.


edit: okay now i wish i didn't post in that gw way so much. this post is really like that.
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I've already pre-ordered this, should get here today or tomorrow.
I really really loved this game on the PS2 and I thought it was better than Twilight Princess (I liked TP as well though) but I can understand how those who don't like / are sick of the Zelda games wouldn't like this since it is pretty much a Zelda clone (although it's a damn good one). Although I recommend anyone who's a fan of Zelda-style games atleast give this game a try. Heck even those people who like Zelda games but are tired of them should give this a try since it's not completely the same as Zelda and it might just be the breath of fresh air you need.

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Oh, so now you're implying that Game Informer, which is owned by GameStop Corp and Barnes and Noble, two major companies known for heavy marketing and advertising deals, accepts money and special favors in exchange for favorable reviews!?  IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE FUCKING IMPLYING!?!?!?

I don't know man.  I'm pretty sure that if this actually happened it would leak to the internet somehow through an anonymous forum post or something and the internet would explode with vindication.  I really, really don't think that video game reviews are very far off the mark most of the time and I'm really tired of the videogame reviewers don't know anything meme.

I don't read reviews often anymore, I just go to metacritic or some dumb website like that to see the averaged scores.

Usually sites like 1Up or IGN score consistently around the review aggregator averages.  Considering that these sites always have their reviews up far in advance of the aggregators even having an average available this might speak at least for the consistency of their editors.
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I don't know man.  I'm pretty sure that if this actually happened it would leak to the internet somehow through an anonymous forum post or something and the internet would explode with vindication.  I really, really don't think that video game reviews are very far off the mark most of the time and I'm really tired of the videogame reviewers don't know anything meme.

Usually sites like 1Up or IGN score consistently around the review aggregator averages.  Considering that these sites always have their reviews up far in advance of the aggregators even having an average available this might speak at least for the consistency of their editors.
Are you kidding me?  How is this a MEME?  First of all, it's not "video game reviewers don't got anything on me heh," or whatever you're playing it up to be, it's "video game reviewers are clearly biased in a very obvious way and their editors probably have agendas and apply a pretty heavy hand to what types of reviews they put out."  Not everyone's as guilty of it as the worst ones are, but for magazines, it's absolutely true.  I don't even know how you can stand here and act like this is some wild, overrated conspiracy that couldn't possibly exist or something.  If most of your revenue comes from advertising, and your reviews often have a large effect on the amount of money your advertisers make, guess what you're NOT going to do?  I don't think it's too hard of a guess.  These publications exist, first and foremost, to make a profit, so above all else, it's in their best interest to appease the advertisers, and it's not too much of a stretch to say that they almost certainly don't do this by giving brutally honest reviews and costing advertisers millions of dollars.  It's just mutually beneficial to give even the bad games pretty solid reviews; the advertisers make money, and in turn you make money.  Plus, the consumer will trick himself into thinking that Tales of Symphonia is actually a good game.  It's a triple win!

But from whom would the Internet demand vindication?  This happens everywhere; it's completely universal.  You can't just go to one source and say THIS IS DISGUSTING, STOP IT, because I'm sure the vast majority of all publications, online or off, that have a substantial amount of advertisers end up doing this to some extent (probably a pretty large one).  I think you'd have to be pretty naive to legitimately think that MONEY doesn't play a very large factor.
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I think Okami on PS2 was a great game, and I'm positive that this port will be too. But I can understand how people may not like this game. I guess it's only for the fans of the genre.
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