they just acquitted Sean Bell's killers

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Artis Leon Ivey Jr

#1 April 25, 2008, 03:19:54 pm

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080425/ap_on_re_us/police_shooting

This makes me so fucking angry. I've been following the case since it happened.

argh I cannot seriously believe a testimony like "well it looked like he was gonna pull a gun" when he PHYSICALLY COULDN'T BECAUSE HE DIDN'T HAVE ONE slid through.

all cops are garbage discuss.

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#2 April 25, 2008, 03:25:41 pm

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shit i haven't followed this at all but i don't understand going by that article how that is NOT excessive force

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#3 April 25, 2008, 03:51:38 pm

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I remember hearing about this a year and a half ago.

This pretty upsetting. I mean, it may be understandable that if they thought he had a gun and shot ONCE OR TWICE. But fifty shots? That's absolutely ridiculous.

I haven't read the article yet because I'm short on time, so I'm not sure how the court justified their decision except KEEPING THE STREETS SAFE. I don't know, I think north america over-values police officers.

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#4 April 25, 2008, 04:06:27 pm

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50 shots? how could they possibly get off after firing fifty shots at an unarmed guy?

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#5 April 25, 2008, 04:15:22 pm

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#6 April 25, 2008, 04:20:47 pm

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Yeah I had forgotten about this case because it happened like what... a couple years ago? That's fucking horrible though.

Lemme guess the cops are........ white?

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Artis Leon Ivey Jr

#7 April 25, 2008, 04:25:16 pm

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of course they are.

50 fucking shots. 9 more than Amadou Diallo.

New York has the worst fucking cops in the world.

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#8 April 25, 2008, 04:36:47 pm

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Sure, it's easy to cast stones from the sidelines and complain about trifling details like how this whole thing was 'completely unjustified' and 'a grotesque mockery of the law', but I think people forget one very important fact: cops really, REALLY enjoy shooting people. Whether with tasers, rubber bullets, or good-ol'-fashioned handguns, there is no end to the happy, carefree joy that the police can get from popping innocent civilians in the face... So who are we to deny them this simple pleasure?

Interestingly enough, I think the first time I read about this was when it was printed right next to an article about how a new bill meant police in Northern Ireland would be legally able to shoot teenagers if they thought they might be armed... I had to laugh out loud.

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#9 April 25, 2008, 04:38:16 pm

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Quote from: thecatamites on April 25, 2008, 04:36:47 pm

Sure, it's easy to cast stones from the sidelines and complain about trifling details like how this whole thing was 'completely unjustified' and 'a grotesque mockery of the law', but I think people forget one very important fact: cops really, REALLY enjoy shooting people. Whether with tasers, rubber bullets, or good-ol'-fashioned handguns, there is no end to the happy, carefree joy that the police can get from popping innocent civilians in the face... So who are we to deny them this simple pleasure?

Interestingly enough, I think the first time I read about this was when it was printed right next to an article about how a new bill meant police in Northern Ireland would be legally able to shoot teenagers if they thought they might be armed... I had to laugh out loud.

at first I was seriously worried that I was going to have to retract my CATAMITES IS A GREAT NEW MEMBER statement but thank god.

btw some of you know I don't have a TV; is this on the news at all?

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#10 April 25, 2008, 04:41:26 pm

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50 shots? how could they possibly get off after firing fifty shots at an unarmed guy?

Because he was black.. raising his threat value by a shit ton yo.

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Yeah... I caught this on TruTV earlier today and I can't believe what I saw.

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#11 April 25, 2008, 04:41:56 pm

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Quote from: Magical Negro on April 25, 2008, 04:38:16 pm

btw some of you know I don't have a TV; is this on the news at all?

It was all over MSNBC and CNN this morning.

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#12 April 25, 2008, 04:59:09 pm

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Uh, aren't one of the cops black? I don't remember here guys.

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Artis Leon Ivey Jr

#13 April 25, 2008, 05:05:29 pm

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seems like you must be right.

black cops just as racist as whites!

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#14 April 25, 2008, 05:11:02 pm

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Quote from: thecatamites on April 25, 2008, 04:36:47 pm

Interestingly enough, I think the first time I read about this was when it was printed right next to an article about how a new bill meant police in Northern Ireland would be legally able to shoot teenagers if they thought they might be armed... I had to laugh out loud.

When I was in Ireland the Guardia didn't have guns; did that change, or are there just armed units?

Also the Guardia not having guns was apparently one of the reasons they are a joke and completely unable to regulate the drunk crowd at night.

That’s right, you have the young gaming with the old(er), white people gaming with black people, men and women, Asian countries gaming with the EU, North Americans gaming with South Americans. Much like world sporting events like the Wolrd Cup, or the Olympics will bring together different nations in friendly competition, (note the recent Asian Cup; Iraq vs. Saudi Arabia, no violence there) we come together. The differences being, we are not divided by our nationalities and we do it 24-7, and on a personal level.

We are a community without borders and without colours, the spirit and diversity of the gaming community is one that should be looked up to, a spirit and diversity other groups should strive toward.

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Terin

#15 April 25, 2008, 05:20:25 pm

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That's pretty sick. I don't understand how they could possibly get away with it. I imagine most news stations are going to barely cover it and then just slide it under the carpet.

What in the world was the jury/judge's reasoning on why it wasn't excessive force? Shit, I could understand if they were like 50' away or something and kept pursuing him, but they actually cornered him and kept shooting him, right?

EDIT: Read the article. Holy crap. Come on. I could understand the one officer who shot four shots -- that's reasonable if he thought they were armed and there were three of them (albeit I know it was still rushed), but the other two. Holy shit. Unloading one clip, swapping it out, then unloading again... This would NOT have happened if they jury had decided their fates.

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#16 April 25, 2008, 05:25:46 pm

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fuck da police

also, rev. al sharpton just fired up a bunch of people at a live news conference, telling people to practice their right to civil disobedience and protest and going outside the judge's home and shit

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#17 April 25, 2008, 05:42:16 pm

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Quote from: Masamune on April 25, 2008, 04:59:09 pm

Uh, aren't one of the cops black? I don't remember here guys.

cop shot cop shot cop shot black cop white cop all cop

(every police is a punk ass bitch)

seriously though, it would make sense if there was a black cop there, it's all part of police strategy. all the police want is for black people to kill each other. that's their mission statement. if sean bell had a gun, and there was a gun battle, everyone except for the white 50 would have died, because thats the whitey would have played it.

also didn't this dude get shot in the back and wasn't he carrying a baby/mother teresa

boop oop a doop

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#18 April 25, 2008, 05:45:46 pm

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50 shots fired with no justification, and the cops are acquitted. Typical. This upsets me considerably - there are countless cases I've heard about lately where the police were obviously wrong yet were still cleared of any charges. The police are supposed to protect the public, and MOST of them do, and I have tons of respect for them for it. It's the bad calls like this however that make it so hard for so many people to trust law enforcement.

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#19 April 25, 2008, 06:02:09 pm

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Quote from: radio_raheem on April 25, 2008, 05:47:47 pm

I'm surprised more people aren't upset by this or that this isn't plastered all over the news. This is far worse than what happened to Rodney King and people rioted over that shit.

I think the thing that provoked the Rodney King riots was that there was a video.

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#20 April 25, 2008, 06:04:21 pm

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"I yelled 'Gun!' and fired," he said. "In my mind, I knew (Guzman) had a gun."

Whoops, looks like you maybe were wrong.

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I'm surprised more people aren't upset by this or that this isn't plastered all over the news.

Right now, on FOX news: A perky blonde is speaking with a man in Kentucky via phone about how he is protesting high gas prices by riding a horse. We leave this story and go to a story about how the Reverend Wright, the man who called the this country the United States of the KKK (Their words, not mine), is now saying that he was taken out of context.

Right now, on CNN: The Detectives giving a press conference. The black one thanks God and Jesus, the Judge for rendering a fair and just verdict, and his family. The second thanks his family, attorney, and the Judge for rendering a fair and just verdict. The other black one says sorry to Bell's family, which is... nice of him? He then proceeds to thanks God, the DA, the attorneys, his family, his colleagues. It sounds like an acceptance speech on an awards show. The Police Spokesperson talks about how cops have to deal with difficult situations (in this case, ones such as facing unarmed black folk), the head of the New York NAACP says that this was a gross injustice and somehow works the word "crap" into it, and then we leave this nasty business and cut to a story about Reverend Wright sitting down with Bill Moyer.

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