they just acquitted Sean Bell's killers

they just acquitted Sean Bell's killers (Read 1141 times)

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thecatamites

#21 April 25, 2008, 06:05:46 pm

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Quote from: benjamin franklin on April 25, 2008, 05:11:02 pm

When I was in Ireland the Guardia didn't have guns; did that change, or are there just armed units?

Also the Guardia not having guns was apparently one of the reasons they are a joke and completely unable to regulate the drunk crowd at night.

The Gardai still don't have guns, but they're the Republic of Ireland police force... The armed ones are the Northern Ireland (seperate from the Republic) cops, who apparantly sport a Glock 17 on all patrols, as well as occasionally carrying rifles, carbines, and extendable batons. And given Northern Ireland's history when it comes to what constitutes justifiable force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1972)), well, you kinda have to wonder about the advisability of giving their police force the ability to shoot any kids they deem sufficently suspicious-looking.
And maybe the Gardai not having guns does make them inefficent, but to be honest I'd rather have inefficent police than actively homicidal police.

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tuxedo marx

#22 April 25, 2008, 06:09:15 pm

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Quote from: benjamin franklin on April 25, 2008, 05:11:02 pm

When I was in Ireland the Guardia didn't have guns; did that change, or are there just armed units?

Northern Ireland. The Police Service of Northern Ireland is the only regional police force in the UK to routinely carry firearms. As far as I know the Garda have had armed units for a long time, but don't routinely carry firearms.

EDIT: Damn you catamites. However, the Bloody Sunday of 1972 didn't involve the Ulster police, a British Army unit from the mainland fired on the protesters.

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wilikeh

#23 April 25, 2008, 06:38:26 pm

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what blows me away is this:

the officers approach the car, weapons drawn, still undercover. Allegedly, they don't reveal that they are officers. So the guys in the car begins to freak out, as one would expect when three guys with guns approach your cars. This is a sign to begin shooting?

rough stuff.

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#24 April 25, 2008, 06:53:21 pm

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Quote from: Magical Negro on April 25, 2008, 03:19:54 pm

I've been following the case since it happened.

I remember asking you if you knew who Sean Bell was because he was mentioned in Ridin' Overseas and you said you didn't know.

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Artis Leon Ivey Jr

#25 April 25, 2008, 06:58:44 pm

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yeah I didn't know his name at the time and then looked it up and was like OH THIS! because I knew the case but not the guy's name.

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#26 April 25, 2008, 07:11:46 pm

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gonna puke

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#27 April 25, 2008, 07:12:47 pm

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Fifty bullets?

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#28 April 25, 2008, 07:13:58 pm

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Quote from: wilikeh on April 25, 2008, 06:38:26 pm

what blows me away is this:

the officers approach the car, weapons drawn, still undercover. Allegedly, they don't reveal that they are officers. So the guys in the car begins to freak out, as one would expect when three guys with guns approach your cars. This is a sign to begin shooting?

rough stuff.

Agreed. He could've thought they were going to rob him, or kill him or something.

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#29 April 25, 2008, 11:55:52 pm

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Quote from: Cho on April 25, 2008, 06:04:21 pm

Right now, on FOX news: A perky blonde is speaking with a man in Kentucky via phone about how he is protesting high gas prices by riding a horse.

Chances are unless he was in one of the bigger cities he probably rode a horse anyway. I've almost hit horses several times because people are riding them down the middle of a road with blind curves everywhere. Fuck, people who don't have room for a LARGE DOG sometimes keep horses here, I'd say this guy just wanted news attention.

Tons of tractors being ridden down the road too.

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#30 April 26, 2008, 03:26:52 am

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I would like to say btw I am very proud of GW. it took THREE POSTS on SA before someone said AH BUT COPS HAVE TO BE CAREFUL (WHEN APPROACHING UNARMED SUSPECTS) AND DID YOU KNOW RODNEY KING COMMITTED CRIMES BEFORE? you guys made me feel good

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#31 April 26, 2008, 03:57:02 am

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Quote from: Magical Negro on April 26, 2008, 03:26:52 am

I would like to say btw I am very proud of GW. it took THREE POSTS on SA before someone said AH BUT COPS HAVE TO BE CAREFUL (WHEN APPROACHING UNARMED SUSPECTS) AND DID YOU KNOW RODNEY KING COMMITTED CRIMES BEFORE? you guys made me feel good

that thread in gbs was the worst thing I ever read, it literally made me sick to think that people are actually like YEAH WELL THEY NEED TO LEARN BETTER TRIGGER DISCIPLINE AND SUCH or YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'D DO IN THE SAME SITUATION GUYS IT WAS US OR THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously though, this is a situation that requires civil disobedience, I am kind of sad that pretty much nothing is going on because of this.

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#32 April 26, 2008, 05:32:21 am

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No matter if the guy was armed or not, nothing excuses two officers shooting a man fifty times. This is utterly disgusting.

Not only is it unlawful, but it's just disgraceful. I could understand the police officers not being punished to the full extent, but something should've been done.

I hope that they at least lose their jobs - they're obviously not fit to be police officers if they're so trigger happy.

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#33 April 26, 2008, 07:04:18 am

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"With tires screeching, glass breaking and bullets flying, the officers said they believed they were the ones under fire."

wow, this is such bullshit. they were the ones shooting and they thought they were UNDER FIRE? and then proceeded to fill up the guy with 50 bullets?

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#34 April 26, 2008, 07:17:37 am

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They're lucky it was a black guy and not a mexican. If it was a mexican the whole country would be economically fucked.

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#35 April 26, 2008, 04:27:06 pm

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they won't lose their job, it's the blue shield of silence.

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#36 April 26, 2008, 06:46:24 pm

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Fifty bullets? Really now. Was that necessary?

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#37 April 26, 2008, 06:49:05 pm

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Quote from: Erave on April 26, 2008, 06:46:24 pm

Any bullets? Really now. Was that necessary?

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#38 April 26, 2008, 07:03:36 pm

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I never followed this case because this isn't the FIRST time a cop has been charged for being trigger happy (remember the dude with the cell phone 5 or 6 years ago?) but I'm still totally confused how you can hit a single CAR with 50 bullets.

The 9mm has an ammo capacity of 15 and detective whatever reportedly shot 31 of the bullets that hit Sean. This means that he had to have RELOADED TWICE (not once as his testimony said). Police aren't even supposed to shoot into cars.

I don't think police are scum but I do believe undercover agents are total crap. Those guys spend so much time on the line that they become paranoid and then shit like this happens. Every UC should go through a monthly psych eval because being among criminals for so long is probably really damaging on the mind.

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#39 April 27, 2008, 01:04:20 am

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you're doing a pretty poor job of living up to your name here marcus

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#40 April 27, 2008, 01:33:43 am

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holy shit marcus just solved the case

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